Hello Active Rain,
Just wanted to share something I found online tonight and was wondering what everyone thought about it. Hope you enjoy the read.
http://finance.google.com/group/google.finance.21344/browse_thread/thread/ac8d73cf72eacaf
This is what was posted:
The almost unbelievable irresponsibility with debt displayed by
homeowners like today's is so amazing, so far beyond any form of
excusable behavior, that you have to wonder if it is right to forgive
it. If someone borrows hundreds of thousands of dollars against their
home and ends up with a short sale requiring the forgiveness of this
debt, how do you feel about it? Remember America's Debtor Prisons or
Are Short Sales Moral? These questions do not go away. Does a really
extreme case change your opinion about the subject? Let's see...
Asking Price: $1,195,000
Income Requirement: $298,750
Downpayment Needed: $239,000
Purchase Price: $397,000
Purchase Date: 7/20/2001
Address: 9 Soaring Hawk, Irvine, CA 92614
Beds: 4, Baths: 2.5, Sq. Ft.: 2,960
Type: Single Family Residence
MLS#: S517428
So lets walk through the mortgage history of this property and see
just how bad HELOC abuse can get...
7-20-2001 The house was purchased for $397,000 with a first mortgage
of $317,600 and a downpayment of $79,400.
11-07-2001 HELOC for $48,000 taking out over half of downpayment.
8-26-2002 Refinance for $360,000.
11-26-2002 HELOC for $29,000
11-26-2002 HELOC for $71,000
6-18-2003 HELOC for $56,000
6-18-2003 HELOC for $100,000
6-1-2004 Refinance for 517,500 -probably paid off HELOCs at this
point.
10-22-1004 HELOC for 89,900.
4-21-2005 Refinance first mortgage of $624,000
4-21-2005 Refinance second mortgage of $156,000. Total debt of
$780,000 at this point.
9-12-2006 Refinance first mortgage of $948,750.
9-12-2006 Refinance second mortgage of $189,750. Total debt of
$1,138,500. No HELOCs
So there you have it. This homeowner went to the housing ATM 8 times
over a 5 year period and pulled out $820,900. Now they have a property
priced at a WTF asking price hoping they can find some knife catcher
to come pay off their bills. Even if you wanted to buy this house,
would you do it knowing that you were about to pay for $820,900 worth
of consumer spending (They may have spent $200,000 on the renovation,
but please spare me the BS about investment or illness or any of that
crap. Look at the pattern of withdrawals. They spent it, and you know
it.) I suppose the lender can always hope these people stashed some of
this money away somewhere to cover the shortfall at the closing table.
Doesn't seem very likely, does it?
Fed is trying to bail out and help home owners and financial
institutions, for what???