After 4 weeks of blogging, the bloggers seem to have found their niche, from local content to blogging about blogging, and they're finding their (sometimes bland) voices. The bloggers admit to spending a lot of time blogging and even to taking classes on blogging, which means to me that they're genuinely trying to do the local real estate blog right. Which means that I will be honest:

Most of the posts were boring and they would have been boring even if I lived in your hyper-local area.

Contestants, you are entering a tricky world! You are trying to both be interesting in a conversational way, but not offensive to most people (wouldn't want to offend a potential client!), but there is really only so much you can say positively before said potential clients will say to themselves " this person is so positive that they are either a) clueless or b) dishonest." Do not enter the zone of mediocrity! Highlighting or mocking something in your area is not bad - some marketer has even managed to spin "mocketing" in a positive light . Try it, I think you'll like it.

OK, on to the hot topic of the week: someone pointed out that a lot of you write boring posts. Someone who's name includes the word tomato (as in throwing tomatoes at people). And half of you blogged about how you felt bad. Folks, even if you are the most interesting blogger on the earth, you're going to get negative feedback from people who have valid points, people who are plain crazy, or people who like to get a rise out of easy targets ( trolls!). Don't feed the trolls.

Runner ups (in no particular order):

Vali Wimberly and Teresa Boardman:- It was clearly stats week this week, which is always a good real estate blogging standby. Vali dispensed stats and advice, but Vali why should I want the ski pass? Was the snow any good this last year? Is there really one area that stands out? And do I really have to do all of that cleaning now?

Julie Ferenzi and Jeff Turner: Some troll got under Julie's skin this week and she organized a marrow drive (very nice), but what's keeping me coming back? I like the Flat Fee versus Full Service post and the admission of past mistakes (intrigue!) - she should try something like that again, but break it down into smaller, more focussed posts.

London Whitted and Pat Kitano: Just one post this week and I really liked the concept - that real estate will not transform you into a millionaire overnight, but it sounded a little too pitch-y. How about some stats to back up what is "normal" and what is above average. Oooo, I like that idea!

Jackie Colson Miller and Jim Cronin: Advice, advice, advice! I like it and it's good content, but there's only so much I can take. She needs to give us some color - who needs GotJunk the most in her area? What's the worst service her clients ever got from a provider not on your list?

Ines Hegedus-Garcia and Paul Chaney : Why did they ask me to judge posts from a week that includes Mothers day, I don't know. So I like the charts, but I could do without the marketing stuff. The story about the failed buyer was interesting, even to potential clients (I initially thought it would only interest industry follks). Off topic - who is this Paul Chaney guy who is her coach? I know I've been under a blogging rock for the last few months, but the rest of the coaches all link to each other and comment on each others blogs.

Madison Hildebrand and Dustin Luther:  Madison - No posts! You bailed, dude!

On to the top five:


Number 5: Mary Pope-Handy and Frances Flynn Thorsen : Mary spent the week doing local history and local ghosts (they seem like they could be combined in some way). She hit the local thing, but she could really dig in and give us the dirt on the town. A list of wireless access points is nice, but it's not going to get the Google traffic it brings in to the blog to stay on the blog.

Number 4: Kevin Tomlinson and Ardell DellaLoggia : If prettiness were the only qualification for this contest, Kevin's blog would win (what are the qualifications anyways?). The stats are good, the condo buyer info was good and I liked the detailed post about some fancy new condos was pretty good (but was it more than a press release? How do they compare to other high end places nearby?). He's hitting the Ardell-style tell them about the real estate process and it's working (or is it? Any blog-clients yet Kevin?). Kevin, give us more content, more voice!

Number 3: Theresa Lussier and Greg Swann - Theresa hit it with some good old fashioned self criticism and introspection. Who doesn't like that? She didn't blog much about her area and, like the other contributors, blogged a little heavily on the fact that she's in a competition (good thing you kept that members only). The writing is good and, when applied to local stuff, could really go places. I look forward to hearing from the cat. Perhaps the pet-lady can serve as inspiration. Theresa also hit it with the only truly interesting blog post about blogging this week - Derek, will you please critique this critique? Maybe my website too? Pretty please?

Number 2: Tisza Major-Posner and Drew Meyers: Tisza's writing style is very good and her judicious, but frequent use of bold words really makes her blog posts easy to skim - there are so many blogs out there that it's nice to be able to quickly skim, then dig in if it's actually interesting. She blogged about blogging quite a bit this week, but the local stuff was good. Who knew that Claremont was the center of the Universe (I always thought it was Fremont)?

Number 1: Kelly Kilpatrick and Joel Burslem: Kelly hit it solidly this week with meaty local content, information that even locals may not have known ( fertility bridge?) and other such super-local delights. Kelly, please give us more of the same in the future, but with a little more bite please!

The real winner of the hyper-local blog this week is not written by a real estate agent , but hits the hyper-local nail on the head so well that people write in, comment in scores (so much so that the author had to turn off anonymous comments), and subscribe in droves. I'm talking about the Capitol Hill Seattle blog. Who knew oversized Subway signs and rude baristas could be so interesting?

 

36 Comments on Judging for Week 5 of Project Blogger:

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2007
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Your blog wil have moe impacT when you upload mnore spEcific dara ATA about yourself.

 

8:32pm • #1

Very unmediocre, somewhat refreshing. Thanks.

9:13pm • #2
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Hey, Galen...thanks for taking on the role of judge/jury. There's a lot of people here in the Rain who don't know you from Adam, or Eve for that matter. You might want to consider padding your profile just a tad bit more to establish some cred.

For more info on Galen, go to Caleb's earlier post

10:07pm • #3
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Thanks for posting the link Rich. You can read up on me there, but I'm not much for talking about myself and I'm not a big fan of filling out profiles. I really just signed up today to read the posts that were locked down and I'm also not much of a social networker. That said...

I started ShackPrices.com, a real estate search website, with a partner a little over a year ago. We've received some good press, we have some entirely unique features, and home buyers are actively using ShackPrices to find homes every day. We'll be rolling out more unique features in the coming few months and I am looking forward to telling the world about them. You can also read my past posts at Rain City Guide (alas I've been bad at posting recently!)    .

10:51pm • #4
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It's great to get some constructive criticism Galen - I will certainly work on what you pointed out and will go check out your site - thanks for taking this on.

Ines

11:12pm • #5
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OK I'm glad I'm not a judge, but I will say that I disagree that I spent the week discussing just ghosts and history. Here were the subjects of week 5:

May 7 Real Estate Sales Numbers For April (market recap, stats)
May 7 Slideshow of Belgatos Park (using RES)
May 8 Wireless spots in Los Gatos
May 8 Pollen...go to beach (it's just a half hour away)
May 9 Ghost piece
May 10 History Walk in LG (a local event)
May 11 Bits of local news (links)
May 12 Oil pump in LG (historical link to past, abandoned oil pump in town)
May 13 Art about Los Gatos (link to Thomas Kincaide painting of downtown)

There were 9 posts. Two were related to history but not only about history (the walk and the oil well). One was about ghosts. There were six other posts.....

I appreciate that Galen spent time judging all of the entrants' posts but there was a lot more to my week than just ghosts and history.
11:24pm • #6
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Galen,

I have to say I love the write up you've done here.  I think you've offered a lot of good information. I hope this helps everyone. Thank you!

11:50pm • #7
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Mary, that is very true - I think I short changed you on my brief summary of your week! (In my defense, I did mention the wireless spots too, so I covered 4 out of 9!). Like I said, I think you're on to it - you understand what your blog is about and you are cranking out the locally relevant posts, which I really like.

11:51pm • #8
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Oh Galen - the "marketing stuff" was a review of helpful points about my coaching session with Paul - not advertising the book.....although it could also be helpful.   I've been sharing everything I'm learning with Active Rainers hoping everyone can benefit from this experience.  You were being sarcastic about Paul right?
11:57pm • #9
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Geesh this was an awesome article!  Thanks for spending the time to do all the research and also type it up :-P
11:58pm • #10
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2007
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Galen thanks. I appreciate that feedback. I'm home with a fever and am having an escrow from hell (see my blog on AR if you are wondering) so I am probably not as easygoing as normal.

Thanks for all your hard work on this contest. I do not envy you or any of the judges.

Best regards,
12:51am • #11
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Hi All,

Galen, Yes, Claremont is in fact the center of the Universe, my universe anyway.  Thank you for your judging efforts and for shaking things up a bit.  The critiques, though brief, were interesting and I learned from each one. 

I am thrilled to see that Kelly did so well this week. 

Thanks again, for the time and attention you offered to all of our efforts.  It is appreciated.

Take care, help lots of people and have a nice day!

Tisza

12:54am • #12
Hey Galen, great review!!!  I am glad that the apprentices got some good solid critiques that they could sink their teeth into this week.
3:12am • #13
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Tisza. I agree and actually was thrilled for everyone who got a good score this time. Some who didn't could have scored too, IMHO, but it's not set up that way.
8:42am • #14
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Galen... I'm going to assume that you and I don't share the same definition of "troll" or that there is some meaning to the phrase "troll got under her skin" that I've missed in my 45 years on this earth. I've searched hard on Google for a positive way to use the word "troll" as a noun outside of singing in rounds or fishing and I can't find one. 

Some "troll" got under Julie's skin? Are you calling Trevor Kott a troll? Please explain? A child dies. Julie's moved. She writes. She acts. She organizes her community. She does this in conjunction with real, live people who read her blog and who she lives and works with and you wonder why people would come back? Who are the people you are referring to. RE.NET reviewers? She's not blogging for them. She's blogging for Plainfield, Illinois. Where 50 real live human beings actually got in their car and drove to help by placing themselves on the register. Where the event was covered by the local news and she received a feature story in her local paper as a result. I'm just a bit confused.

10:30am • #15
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Parking so I can read all of these links.

 

11:08am • #16
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Galen... Now I see the problem. It's interpretation of the placement of the conjunction "and."

"Some troll got under Julie's skin this week and she organized a marrow drive (very nice), but what's keeping me coming back?"

Your two thoughts are not connected. My sincere apologies. Here's another way of writing it, in case I've muddied the waters:

Some troll (Tomato) got under Julie's skin this week. Julie also organized a marrow drive (very nice), but what's keeping me coming back? 

I get it now and I don't need you to define troll. The rest of my comment stands, however. She's not writing for anyone but Plainfield, Illinois. They only blog we're concerned with is her Living In Plainfield blog, not her posts on ActiveRain. I've specifically directed her to write differently on AR than she does on her own blog and to save commentary about the competition for AR... not her own blog.

Your advice to "break it down into smaller, more focussed posts." is excellent, by the way. 

11:49am • #17
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Great review. I understood what you were saying. I guess I am on your wavelength....lol!  Your comments were helpful and beneficial! Feel free to critique me anytime....

 

2:03pm • #18

Sorry for any confusion Jeff - I combined a lot of concepts in an effort to cover the blogs without dedicating a complete sentence to each post (see Mary's complaint as to why this wasn't entirely successful). I included a link to the post about the troll hoping it would be clear!

As for the local stuff - it's great and I think you should keep hitting the local content on her site, and keep the AR stuff on AR.

Off this topic: This is the most succinct way of summarizing my complaint with most of the local content: it's written objectively, as if from a news source. I (and many blog readers) want commentary and editorial. The marrow drive would be tough as commentary, but a lot of local stuff that I read wouldn't be too hard to make into commentary.

I think if I were to judge again, I'd try to separate the AR posts (agent-focussed, diary like), from the local posts. I would also give special awards to those who blogged most about blogging (not for points) and those who generated the most "love-it-or-hate-it" feelings. 

2:19pm • #19
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Galen... I think that's you. I see your point clearly now. Thank you for clarifying. It helps understand your perspective on this quite a bit.
2:24pm • #20
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Simon!  Finally.  Thanks for the more critical view... now to go and learn from your observations.
3:53pm • #21
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Galen,

You wrote:

"OK, on to the hot topic of the week: someone pointed out that a lot of you write boring posts. Someone who's name includes the word tomato (as in throwing tomatoes at people)."

I think you might be referring to me...  but I also think you have misinterpreted what I was pointing out. 

Although I concur with your advice about negative feedback, I don't recall (correct me if I'm wrong) calling any of the contestant's posts 'boring' or the like.  I was only making a call for a more critical critique of the contestants' efforts.  It was more that I found the judging 'boring', if anything at all.  And here you are, bringing in what I think we all need to hear.  So thanks so much for your efforts and wisdom.  Much appreciated.

Now, about this calling me a 'troll'.  Those are fighting words, and I don't know that they best define the intent of my post, regardless of who's skin it got under.  I was making a stand with that particular article, recognizing that the contest was becoming less of one as the accolades piled up.  The intentions were never to be 'hostile' 'jerky' disruptive' or any other adjective found by following your link.  The context of the article was to call for more judging in exactly the style you have presented above.  So if asking for someone like you, to judge as you have, is being a troll, then so be it.  Otherwise, I think that the context of that article I had written is being misrepresented, and in an unfortunate manner.

Now back to holstering the tomatoes... until we edge too close the the cliff of mediocrity.

4:05pm • #22
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OK Tomato, you didn't say boring per se and perhaps I stepped over the line when I inferred that you thought some criticism was warranted (because the posts were at times boring).

I don't think you were remotely hostile or jerky, but the blog contestants sure did. And you aren't really a troll. Your post was extremely mild by troll standards and you identified yourself, something trolls never do. In reading over the reactions this week, you certainly stirred up some defensive feelings though - I was more referring you as a troll to help the bloggers get over it!  Anyone who is a successful blogger gets called an idiot and much worse every time they hit post (otherwise they're boring!).

6:07pm • #23
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LOL Galen, is this a lesson in "don't volunteer to be a judge for Project Blogger"?  You are getting slammed for all your time invested...for free I might add.

Thanks for being a Judge.  I "get" your comments, but this is the Rain.  You have to dance and sing and say nice things, pat people on the back, bow down to the most popular and God forbid...encourage bolding and mocking?  You're lucky you weren't stoned to death.

Thanks for taking all the time I know it took to write that, and to do the research to write that.  I'm just happy we made it to the top five, Kevin's first week of getting something up on his "Pretty Blog".  Miami Beach likes "Pretty", so it's suited to his service area.

 

11:42pm • #24
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19
2007
420,532 Points 90 Featured Posts Outside Blog

Ardell... now I'm LOL! You love this kind of atmosphere. That's obvious. But I'm only reading three disagreeing comments out of 24. Is that your definition of "slammed?"  

As for those slams, since Mary, The Tomato and I are the only ones that didn't follow strictly to the "dance and sing and say nice things, pat people on the back" pattern you refer to , I can only conclude you're talking about one or all of us. You'd think you'd be applauding our break from the ActiveRain pattern, since you seem to have just a tad bit of disdain for it. :)

In my case, I misunderstood one of his sentences. We're having our own Trevor Kott drive here in Santa Clarita, CA tomorrow. So, I may be a bit sensitive. I went into poppa bear mode. I needed to click one more link and listen to  Conjunction Junction before I commented. I've apologized to Galen. The mistake was truly mine. I get his comments too. I agree with most. I just disagree with some of them as well. Oh, wait, I'm not supposed to voice disagreement with anything here on ActiveRain. My bad again.

By the way... is anyone getting paid for any of this? If so, please let me know which post I missed. 

12:30am • #25
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Jeff,

Talk about sensitive.  No I wasn't talking about three people.  I was more bothered by the "instruction" that Galen should beef up his profile in order to be a judge.  I was influenced by Galen's need to say "I'm sorry" in all of his comments. 

Not sure where you are coming from, but let's just say I'm a little sensitive about Galen and you're a little sensitive about Trevor.  But thanks for proving my point.  What's your favorite song BTW?

1:14am • #26
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Ardell... I guess we're both a bit sensitive is right. And, commenting any way but positively on your comment would have proved your point. :) 

My favorite song... man, I love music, so that's a tough one. If I could only listen to one song the rest of my life, I'd have to go with something from my high school days, since it's almost 30 years later and I still love classic rock. So... Going To California by Led Zeppelin. "Standing on a hill in my mountain of dreams, telling my self it's not as hard, hard, hard as it seems." Love the lyrics. Love the guitar.  

Ask me that question later today and I might give you a different answer, by the way. 

What's your favorite song? 

8:31am • #27
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Be nice people!

There's a troll under the bridge getting out from the rain; it will not be kind when it's your time to cross.

9:09am • #28
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Ed... I'm actually a big Ardell fan. I think she knows that. Well, if she didn't before she does now.

 

10:47am • #29
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But Golem, the evil one, crept up and slipped away with her...

(JT knows) 

2:00pm • #30
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I gotta whole lotta love for you right now, Mr. Tomato! That's the kind of comment that represents what is and what should never be - that's for sure. This stuff can be a heartbreaker, so thank you. As is usual, I tend to ramble on. So, I'm going to go find my wife, my living loving maid (she's just a woman) and see if the marrow drive has hauled in some Moby Dick sized numbers. :)
4:10pm • #31

"Number 5: Mary Pope-Handy and Frances Flynn Thorsen : Mary spent the week doing local history and local ghosts (they seem like they could be combined in some way). She hit the local thing, but she could really dig in and give us the dirt on the town. A list of wireless access points is nice, but it's not going to get the Google traffic it brings in to the blog to stay on the blog."

My advice is to say, "Don't worry about the Goggle trafffic. Follow your passion and your voice. Mary's article about haunted houses is one of the top rated articles on RealTown since the web portal was launched on January 30th.

I believe that the Googlebots will follow spirited, articulate passion!!!

I also believe that bloggers spend entirely too much time worrying about SEO ... it is the QUALITY of traffic to the blog that matters versus the number of visitors ... I believe that the SEO myths that people are spreading will be debunked by the end of the year.

Bloggers should spend their energies feeding their souls ... if their blog posts show evidence of that spiriti, they will have abundant success.

Mary is endowed not only with a wwonderful spirit of her own, but an affinity to touch other spirits, including mine and some others who have passed before us.

Mary Pope-Handy is a star in the making ...

5:05pm • #32
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Frances, where the heck have you been. I COULD NOT AGREE WITH YOU MORE! About the focus on SEO and about Mary.
5:09pm • #33
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All my love to you as well JT.  You know I don't want to be seen as the fool in the rain.  If we don't support our friends here, it could be the gallows pole for any hot dog.   Now, I'm gonna crawl back into the garden, down by the seaside.

 

(and would you believe it? I got Lemon (Song) as the captcha!)

5:27pm • #34
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21
2007
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Ardell, the instruction to "bEef up yOur pro file" on the first comment was definitely a nice welcome.

Frances, I 100% agree about SEO: Bloggers who blog for Google are usually boring. My point there was that the list of wireless access points seemed like an SEO post (lots of place names), but in retrospect it might be nice to know if you're in the area. However! My other point was that the rest of the content wasn't spicy enough to get many of the readers to stop and subscribe to her blog.

 

11:43am • #35
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Interesting competition.

I agree with the SEO viewpoint... that most seem dry. I think that too many people view SEO as math, when it is actually art. 

I wish SEO and SEM had been figured into this competition - it is an extremely valuable point if utilized correctly. However it seems that most bloggers use it incorrectly. The whole garbage in = garbage out scenario works in any marketing story. 

Without reach through automated means, really talented writers are missing the multiplier of Google and Yahoo. If you write amazing content, there isn't any reason you shouldn't be on top of the search engines for some amazing keywords. However I routinely see amazing writers fall into Google Hell.

3:16pm • #36

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