I've been to Brian Buffini's "By Referral only'.

I get a lot of people "just don't buy leads". Others do, and swear by it.

My belief is one should do both, and many people seem to assume these are mutually exclusive.

 

One thing that sort of puzzles me, and perhaps you can shed some light, is why do so many people believe you either "are a referral agent" and never buy leads, or someone who buys a lot of leads.

In the mortgage world this is more apparent...really because of the psychology of the shops. The lead shops would usually run a call center, do some big numbers, with big overhead. The referral guys/shops did business via this "financial planner" type of model relying on expertise.

 

The problem are twofold:

- The "Experts" aka "referral only" people lose a ton of business, because unless you reach the level of someone like Ric Edelman or Suze Orman i.e. your name has become a serious brand with near market saturation, you're losing out on the business from the guy down the street you could serve really well and make good money from - but he doesn't know you exist. The advertising just isn't reaching him. Or at the very least, -most- of the experts (not all, but most) are not as busy as they could be. Most don't work like a doctor, instead, they have all these skills / knowledge but only use them about 10% of their total available time, while the other 50% is looking for business.

- The Lead Buyers, usually in the mortgage industry but could be applied to real estate, often from a business practice standpoint are in this "turn 'em and burn 'em" mindset. In the mortgage world, many of these shops put their agenda ahead of the clients, making as much as possible, and now they're out of business. Not a bad business if you have zero ethics and don't care about a long-term career, but why not fold these together? The referrals and good karma will easily make up for that 1/2 pt in fees you didn't make gouging the client.

This sounds great conceptually, but what it really means is:

- If you've never bought a lead or have and it hasn't worked out, I propose you try it again...but with accountability. If some lead-gen shop wants $10k up front and doesn't come with a mile-long track record, look elsewhere. A good lead generator or advertising partnership arrangement will look to build a mutually beneficial arrangement. They're out there.

- If you're a leads-only shop, I'd recommend going to some of these referral-only seminars like Brian Buffini (i'm not paid by them, just a fan) and looking for specific action steps to deepen engagement..it'll look like phone calls with real humans (not machines), handwritten cards, personal meetings when possible, and video (that's my own addition; video is a lot more emotional).

(as I type this I realize I should video-blog more often... next time... ;-)  )

 

Comments? Is anyone doing both effectively?

 

RogerV
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Roger, if (like me) an agent is getting as much, even more business than they can handle without buying leads, why buy them?  I swear by the Buffini approach.  I don't have to work with strangers, there is a higher level of trust on both sides, and people who are referred to me (by people I already know and like) are much more likely to pass the fun test. 

If I were a new agent, or if I was moving into an area where I don't know a soul, it might be different.  But I don't think so.

2:24pm • #1

Patricia - some time ago, I started a project where we'd do a "warm hand-off" from our videos, and that's sort of our agenda again just because we're finally really ramping up the HGTV type of video, which makes the agents look good.

For agents like you, already at capacity, it makes sense to move up the ladder and hire an assistant or buyer's agents...? Or not! If you're effective, happy, and building a salable / exitable practice, then buying leads might not be for you.

That said, it seems like many agents are not as busy.

part of the reason i'm asking is I want to focus on marketing, which means selling leads - but not in the usual way...it seems like an industry ripe with scammers and bad reputations and few real marketing partnerships.

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I don't think I should have to buy leads OR pay REALTOR.COM - and I don't - But I could be wrong wrong wrong!

2:47pm • #3

he he, you don't _have_ to. The question is whether doing so makes you more money!

Are you at capacity?

Do you spend money on advertising now, and if so, does it yield results you're happy with? What your cost-per-lead on the money spent on advertising?

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Roger- Good post with goo information and it does make me think- should I be paying for leads?

11:56am • #5

You already do..it's called advertising.

but most agents never do the math that a $500 ad that yields 10 leads = $50 per lead, which is more expensive than we sell them for.

One could argue "oh, it's all presence of mind"...but again, those two aren't contrapositive. I say if you can generate your own at an acceptably low cost, do it - but if not, then hire a specialist...just like a good agent can do a much better job selling a house than a FSBO, so can a media / lead generator do a better job than non-marketing-expert agent.

my .02~! :)

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