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Gas Water Heater Vent Pipe & Hood Installation

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Home Inspector with At Ease Home Inspections #30395

Hey Guys..... I hope all is well with everyone! Keeping busy I hope!!!!

So here is my issue this week.... I have never seen this before and was hoping to get some insight from my fellow home inspectors out there. I have looked through my books and other information that I have on water heaters but still can not find anything that looks anything like this or any information on if this is the correct way to install.

 Below are two photos of the Hood and Vent Pipe.

Is this correct installation for a GAS WATER HEATER?

Water Heater Vent

Water Heater Vent

I have only seen GAS WATER HEATERS / HOOD installed like the example I provided below....

Water Heater Hood

Can't wait to hear from you guys... Its been a while! I hope all is good! ~~~~ Nikki

Posted by

Nikki Marlatt-Young 

(410)300-8699

Comments (11)

Charles Buell
Charles Buell Inspections Inc. - Seattle, WA
Seattle Home Inspector

Nikki, it looks to me as though that box is open on the bottom? and serving as the draft hood for the first heater pictured that doesn't have one?

Apr 19, 2009 04:02 AM
Charles Buell
Charles Buell Inspections Inc. - Seattle, WA
Seattle Home Inspector

The whole installation to the older water heater looks a little funky to me:)  There is no way to change the water heater without cutting pipes.  The other heater is going to be supplying nice warm water to the ice maker as well.

Apr 19, 2009 04:06 AM
Nikki Marlatt-Young
At Ease Home Inspections - Arbutus, MD
Housing & Rental Inspections

Thanks Charles.....  I will have to check into that (to make sure that the box has an opening).

 

Apr 19, 2009 04:06 AM
Charles Buell
Charles Buell Inspections Inc. - Seattle, WA
Seattle Home Inspector

Nikki, I am not however saying it is "appropriate" to do it that way-----seems very odd to me----but who knows.  My guess is that heater is past its expected life anyway:)  What is the story that there are two gas water heaters?

Apr 19, 2009 04:12 AM
Nikki Marlatt-Young
At Ease Home Inspections - Arbutus, MD
Housing & Rental Inspections

Oh... NO just one heater.... the other heater is from another house I inspected a couple days ago.

The first water heater was one I did just this past week, and wasn't sure how to write that up.

Now I have learned that when I see something like that to look at the box to make sure there is an opening.   I think I will have to make arrangements to re-visit that property cause I am not 100% sure.  Luckly though this is a property that one of my investor clients owns and is having me inspect for "rental" reasons. 

 

Apr 19, 2009 05:01 AM
Charles Buell
Charles Buell Inspections Inc. - Seattle, WA
Seattle Home Inspector

Nikki, just don't take my word for it.  I have never seen an installation like this on a water heater.  Some old furnaces used to have a draft hood like this.  I would want to see the whole setup checked my a licensed HVAC----just doesn't seem right to me.

Apr 19, 2009 05:18 AM
Darren Revell
Keller Williams Realty Temecula Valley - Temecula, CA

See.. this is why we hire you inspectors... I haven't a clue...

Thanks for doing what you do. 

Apr 19, 2009 07:15 AM
Jack Gilleland
Home Inspection and Investor Services, Clayton - Clayton, OH

Nikki, it isn't kosher.  There are many cons about putting the WH flue into a chimney and almost everyone says the WH flue should be below the furnace.  

By the way, did you write up the galvanized to copper connection without insulating or dialectric unions?

Down drafts in a chimney have a tendency to push flue gases out the bottom of an open box, and without the box the downdraft can actually snuff a pilot.

 

Apr 19, 2009 09:22 AM
Reuben Saltzman
Structure Tech Home Inspections - Minneapolis, MN
Delivering the Unbiased Truth.

Nikki - it's completely wrong, and it's a potentially unsafe installation.  There's no 'maybe' about it.   There isn't a single water heater manufacturer that will allow some goofball installation like that.  I'm sure that big box is a draft hood, and it's open on the bottom, but it's not meant for a water heater.  The only draft hood you should see on a water heater is the one that the manufacturer allows, which is the one you showed in that last picture.

The installation instructions from GE show a draft hood, and on page 12 of their installation manual it reads:

Vent connectors must be attached to the draft hood outlet to connect the water heater to the gas vent or chimney.

Read that sentence carefully.  Your picture shows a vent connector attached to a draft hood which is connected to a vent connector, which is connected directly to the water heater.  No good.  The reason for a proper draft hood is to allow the water heater to backdraft if neccessary - this is better than having exhaust gas trapped inside the water heater burner area.  

Apr 20, 2009 03:11 PM
Mike Schulz
Affordable Home Inspections - Raleigh, NC
Raleigh NC Inspector

 

Affordable Home Inspections

Somebody spent a lot of time doing it wrong. Is that box tied into the heater flue or the Chimney? Did you fire up both units and let them run simultaneously for a long period?

I bet you would of had a number of issues when you did.\

Mike

www.houseinspections.com

Apr 21, 2009 09:06 AM
Nikki Marlatt-Young
At Ease Home Inspections - Arbutus, MD
Housing & Rental Inspections

Thanks Jack, Reuben & Mike!  

Sorry it has taken me so long to respond...  This week has been one crazy week here for me! 

CRAZY BUSY!!!!!!    Which is a great thing!    I love it! 

 

You guys are the best and I am so glad I can turn to you for advise and help when needed!

 

 

 

Apr 22, 2009 08:42 AM