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50 Comments on Sellers, Don't be Greedy--Buyers Aren't Playing Around!
Thanks ALL! I am SO glad that it worked out like it did--seller and agent don't have a clue what the market is like--I guess they've both had their heads buried in the sand for the past year--my buyers were savvy and more than fair with their offers--they just didn't have to wait for the sellers to come to their senses. There's enough out there to move to #2, #3, and #4!
Bo: Funny story about that but, I recommended the #2 on DAY 1--they thought they'd like the location of #1 better and decided, against research results, to go with it. During the delay--the time the first sellers were reviewing the offer and the offer of the second choice, they buyers 'explored' the area and realized that they didn't really want to be there!! They were SO happy that the #2 to work out for them--turns out it's their #1 choice!
It's called Karma--right?!
Debe,
Great story, this last week I was on the opposite side of a deal like yours. Representing seller with a $900K listing and an offer comes in for $870K. I spent 5 hours over 2 days talking with the seller letting him know that he really need to consider this offer and realize that it is a great deal. 5 day inspection contingency and the buyer is bringing in $500K in cash. Seller is still thinking he should have offers for over $910K and I try to make sure that he understands that this offer will walk away if he doesn't accept or give a very small counter. This fellow is a poker player and I let him know that he is working with $870K pot and if he doesn't make the right move the other player is picking up all the chips. Unfortunately against my better advice the seller asks for an additional $15K and the buyer picks up her chips and walks away.
Today when I show up to do an OH, the seller wants to know if I've heard anything more from the buyer. The counter-offer had expired 3 days before and it was like he had not heard a single from our earlier conversation. As the buyer had said, SEE YA!
Charles in San Jose~
Debe - Now I finally know where you get all those cool fonts and colors! Great post, congrats on the double feature.
Deve: Great write up and like Penny: congrats o the double feature!
Debe-
Great post. . . I can totally relate. . . right now I'm on the listing side with an unreasonable seller. . . Great cash offer, he won't budge. . . and not for lack of knowledge or numbers, which I have presented and explained several times over (including an exact comp as recent as 45 days). . . When I encounter someone like this, I refer to it as 'both buyers and sellers have their own "process"'. . . And it's more than just greed, it's totally psychological, albeit the psychology of 3-year-olds: "I don't want to play with this toy (or own this house) anymore until someone else wants to play with it (buy it)." Completely absurd but true =)
Diana Tonova
Express Florida Realty, Inc. ~ diana@southfloridahousehunter.com www.southfloridacoastalhomes.com
Great post!
Not sure why some folks think that 15 month old comps are justifiable. Especially since the market fluctuates on what seems to be a daily basis these days. I attempted to buy a property for myself through someone that wanted to sell by owner, and the seller wanted to justify his pricing on an appraisal he had done in 2003. Some people just aren't realistic about what their house is worth. Either that or they don't understand the definition of market value!!
I agree, great post! Bottom line - you did your job. The first listing agent didn't and his clients suffered.
Go blonde -
Michael
Way To Go Debe! You Tell 'em!
I feel sorry for the Sellers on Home #1, but, I'm questioning their motivitation. And really questioning their agent!
Congrats!
Charles: I don't understand why your seller would think that he should get MORE than his $900K list price anyway??! WHAT are these sellers thinking--the $870K offer should have been snagged up by THANKFUL sellers! I feel for you--I have a seller just like that right now but, I have been sending that seller more and more information to show that his values are DROPPING and he needs to act now on an offer that is ABOVE even MY comparables!! ARRGH!
Penny & Janice! Thank you so much! I was totally blown away by that and am so grateful to the AR guys--they are truly the BEST!
Diana: I do think that the sellers are also being represented poorly in my example--yours are getting just what they need to make the right decision. Unfortunately you can't make that decision for them--just keep stuffing them with REAL facts and stats!!
Michael: You've summed it up in a nutshell!! And, I loved having the savvy buyer who was not going to play these games with this seller! Unbelievable in this market, isn't it?! And, OH, I love being blonde in this business--many cross-sale agents don't give me up front credibility and I LOVE winning negotiations OR walking away with my buyers while the agent has his chin on the floor!!--LOVE it!
THOM!! Don't you LOVE it?!! I feel like it's poor representation too because he basically told me that I didn't know what I was talking about--his 15-month comparables and one-year old appraisal were what he was standing on. He's truly doing his sellers a MAJOR injustice!
Thanks for the html tip! I was posting another blog and somehow got that in my que??! Have a great week...
Debe ... Thanks for this article to point out the arrogance of some listing agents and their owner clients, who are often not informed about the local market, and don't understand the importance of showing respect for qualified buyers and their Realtors.
Please keep up the good writing and sharing of local information.
Another great post. It worked out in the end and that is all that matters.
If you have time, let us know what happens with the first listing.
People need to be realistic. If they are not realistic about the price they are not going to work with you in other areas either. I found that the over priced properties are also the ones trying to discount the commission to the buyers agent.
Debe - excellent post, and you could not be more correct when you state "lack of desire to sell". I like representing both, but when either party is unrealistic in today's market, the transaction may not come together.
Good going Debe! Congrats on that sale and the featured newsletter post. Buyers have been a little rough lately but then it comes down to after a year on the market - do you want to sell or not? It's over a year! The market is trying to tell them something but their agent doesn't have an ear to the ground to advise them. LOL for the 18 month old comps! Again, listing agent not current but asleep at the wheel of a circling bus going nowhere.
Way to go Debe! I feel bad for Seller #1 with representation that did not want to look at the picture of today. A buyer with CASH is a pot of gold (literally). Good for Seller #2 and for your buyers that had the representation that resulted in a positive outcome for all. Olga
WOW!!! Comps that old, where did he get his license, a cereal box? I had a seller try to pull that with me on a listing appointment. Guess what? Didn't take the listing and it's been on the market for almost 2 years. Ummm, YEAH....Us dumb blondes need to stick together!!!!
Debe - I had the opposite story here... Agent showed property and said it was overpriced and wouldn't sell. Guy was rude, obnoxious and condescending. I said my comps told a different story. He then shows me city wide comps. I replied "so what - different neighborhood." 4 miles away in the city might as well be across the country in some cases. Received 3 offers on it - it is now pending. Agent calls me back to tell me that his client was going to submit offer at $30k below list against his advice. I loved uttering these words "It went under contract this morning for 97% of list."
I loved your story... glad it worked out for your customers... Good rule - never fall in love with a house because there is always another dream home just around the corner.
Oh I love it, sounds like a typical day. Ha ha.
Debe, thanks for sharing your stories! You're so right in contrasting the behaviors of these two sellers... don't we all wish for those like #2?? ;-)
Isn't it great to have cash buyers? The first offer doesn't work out and you move to the next one. I wish I had a cash buyer right about now. Thanks for the nice post, Debe.