Ok... so I'm on a rant and boy this one has simply really got my goat!

My wife and I have been in this great industry for over two decades. We, like many of those of us who are seasoned professionals, pride ourselves in how we manage our business and how we respond to one another in our profession.  We respect our clients property and offer the most up-to-date methods of securing ingress/egress to the property.

  1. We ANSWER our phone
  2. We RETURN our eMail messages
  3. We use a secure SUPRA KEY Lock Box ingress/egress system
  4. We DO NOT place our clients property at risk with unsecure mechanical lock boxes
  5. We RETURN our text messages
  6. We publish our cell phone numbers in our MLS listings

We make it nearly impossible for anyone to ever say that they couldn't get in touch with us. We maintain between 20 and 30 listings at any given point in time and all of our listings have all of our methods of contact such as cell phone, fax, office phone, text message and eMail. We know everything about our listings. If the listing is a short sale, we know who the lien holders are and we know how many lien holders are involved; we know who the negotiators are; we have points of contact for each lien holder negotiator; such as eMail, fax, phone and supervisors name and points of contact. We know if the properties utilities are active.

If the property is not a distressed listing, I.E. owned by some seller who simply wants to sell their home to move up or move down in size or for any number of normal, and some time abnormal, reasons, we know everything there is to know about that property. We know that one of the best ways to get another REALTOR® to show the property is if he or she has as much Intel as possible, and... can get that Intel from a real live person.

LACK OF SECURIETY AND RESPECT

Now, contrast that with many, if not most, REO Secret Agents who handle REO properties. These agents make it extremely difficult to show properties. Many of them don't use any form of secure ingress/egress control, I.E. a secure SUPRA Lock Box system. There is no way that these agents can protect their client's property without a secure and accountable method of monitoring who has entered the property. IMO, these less than professional acts of inexcusable lacks of professionalism show a total disrespect for their client's property.

My favorite all time reason that I hear REO agents use for not putting a secure SUPRA lock box system on the property is, "it's too expensive".

  1. Do you really feel you have a right to not offer your client the most complete and competent protection of their property?
  2. Do you not feel your client would like to be able to tell the police, in the event of a break-in and/or the property being vandalized... who the last persons were who entered the property?
  3. Do you not think your client would like, at the very least, a small chance of seeing justice done to those who would destroy their property?
  4. Do you not think it appropriate to hold real estate agents who are inattentive to their tasks to re-secure a property rafter showing, to be held accountable?
  5. What in the world are you thinking? And... what in the world would your client think if you said, "I can't really afford to secure your property with a secure SUPRA lock box system, you'll simply have to deal with the consequences of not knowing who has entered your property last".

DISRESPECT OF FELLOW REALTORS

Try calling a REO listing. If you're lucky, you might get a recorded message that says something like, "If you see a listing that is showing ACTIVE and not under contract, that is accurate information, our listing are updated every day". Yeah, right! But that does not include updating their listings over the weekend. Oh here's a bute... you call on Friday afternoon, about 7pm so you can vet the list of homes you're going to show tomorrow. You begin to make phone calls to vet the availability of the home and you get this: "Our office is closed for the weekend. Please call back Monday between the hours of 8am and 5pm."  Or my favorite, "Hello, you have reached Agent Brown. I am sorry I can't take your call at the moment. I return my calls between 2pm and 5pm Monday through Friday. If you have called after 5pm, please try to reach me the following day after 8am. If you have called me on the weekend, I will return your call the next business day. Please leave a message".  Like heck I will!!! If you want my client's business, you should have answered your phone or at the very least, answered the voice mail message I left you.

WHAT ARE REO ASSET MANAGERS THINKING?

Would someone kindly let me know why any asset manager would want to hire a real estate agent or even better, an entire team of real estate agents who will not give the property the proper attention it deserves? Is there an asset manager out there who can explain why you would not want your property protected by a secure Ingress/Egress verifiable lock box system? Is there an asset manager out there who can explain why you insist on hiring real estate agents who are, well... Secret Sgents? That is to say, why don't you want the agent or team of agents, you hired to answerer their phone in response to a buyer or buyer agent? Do asset managers simply have a death wish for the property they represent? Do asset managers find wisdom in conducing business with real estate agents who do not have the best interest of their client at the forefront?

I just don't get it!

I could go on and on about the most unprofessional niche of our industry, the REO listing agent.

Now, don't misunderstand, there are some GREAT REO listing agents. They secure homes properly, they have a team of agents who really answer their phones or if they are lone wolfs, they answer their own phone. But... sadly, this gallant and noble group of REO listing agents is but fraction of an infinitely small fraction of REO agents and agent teams who manage and list REOs. To this truly noble group; Congratulations on a Job Well Done. This very small microcosm of REO listing agents even knows all about each listing. WoW! That's simply refreshing.

But to the rest of you... get the heck out of the kitchen if you can't stand the heat. You, who match up to my comments in the beginning of this post, do not belong in the REO business. GET OUT and get a 9 to 5 job... or... do the job the asset manager hired you to do, in a dignified and respectable and professional fashion.

  1. Answer your phone!
  2. Properly secure the property!
  3. List your cell phone or the cell phone of an "On-Call" team member!
  4. Return your voice mail messages!
  5. Return your eMail messages
  6. Return your text messages!

And... participate in our industry as professional agents, not "Secret Agents"

G-II Varrato II is a licensed REALTOR® with Coldwell Banker Residential Brokerage. You can reach G-II (G2) at 602-796-5674 or by eMail at G-II@AllAboutRealEstate.pro

 
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78 Comments on REO LISTING AGENTS – MANY ARE AS USELESS AS FEATHERS ON A LIZARD

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Wow, I can tell I'm going to like reading your posts. Useless as feathers on a lizard. That pretty well describes some of these business practices in a nutshell. I love trying to schedule a home inspection when no one returns my call, guess I'm suppose to inspect it from the outside and use my x-ray vision.

1:13am • #1
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After reading your title... and being turned off by what appeared to be just another overly sarcastic attack on REO listing agents... I read it anyway.  Much of what you say may be true... but after sampling your sarcasm... and seeing it woven here and there throughout your post... to me, at least, it diminished the value of what you wrote about.  Just my two cents.

1:20am • #2

G-II,(that's your name? Pronounced G-2?), Most of the lockboxes on my REO's are put on by a preservation company to a code specified by the property preservation company. It's pretty much impossible to change the banks system in regards to lockboxes. 

1:47am • #3
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Good points but don't expect them to change anytime soon. .after all they are the ones that made those decisions that brought us the sub-prime mess to begin with. .

4:22am • #4

GREAT Post! I list REO properties (mostly Fannie Mae) and they do have a preservation company install the initial lockbox.  I do not give out the preservation company's code. That box is there for there inspections to make sure the property is maintained. I go the extra step and add a SUPRA Lockbox. It allows me to give an accurate account as to number of showings to the asset manager in the form of a printout. We have agents here that put the lockbox code in the MLS....How can they possibly give an accounting as to the number of showings? And as you said if there is a breakin at least I can call the last agent in and ask about the condition of the property at that time and develop a timeline.

I've experienced most of what your post is about and it is extremely frustrating. My latest experience...no key in the lockbox -previous buyer now has the key in their possession because their agent gave them the code. Now the deal has collapsed and the home is back on the market....nobody can show the property because the listing agent's office is an hour away and he won't drive down to put a key in the lockbox. I've been trying to get a key for 3 weeks now.

This can definitely be a frustrating market but it's a gold mine for buyers.

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5:17am • #5
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HA!  I'm still waiting for a call back on e-mail reply from messages I left a listing agent last Friday.

I'm also waiting for a COMBO for a listing I asked for 11 days ago. 

6:05am • #6
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I hate to see generalizations but your post is sad but true on so many levels. I really appreciate it when I run into the occasional good REO agent.

6:11am • #7
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I don't show homes much anymore but two weekends ago I did. I have to agree with you on the call backs. The office is closed and the agent is not picking up. I suggest to sellers they have a friend check the response time of the listing agent.

Of course in dealing with banks that is not going to happen.

6:40am • #8
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Great title and unfortunately you hit the nail on the head with with this one.  We've run into this and it's beyond frustrating! Thanks.

7:01am • #9

G-11, I have not listed any REO properties, but I have shown some! If you can't be reached and don't have the infromation you can't sell them!

7:08am • #10
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Great post and colorful language. I love the feathers on a lizard -

7:16am • #11
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As I work with a couple investors this is a pet peeve of mine. I have blogged "answer the **** phone investors don't like to waste time". Even worse is the contractor lock box and the code is NOT in confidential remarks.

7:24am • #12
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Along the lines of Missy, why don't the order quality control on the agent's response times?  You are right on G-II.  The only thing I can disagree on is that sometimes if the love (listings) are spread around too much that some individual agents would not be able to handle it. (from rekey to cash for keys to trash out to turning utilities on.)  We only deal with a small part of it!

7:34am • #13

Great Blog.  You have hit that part of our industry on the head.  I would be interested to see if any of the REO mill agents respond.  My thought is you treat they REO as you would your own personal property if you're selling it.  And for God Sake and the phone or return a call promptly.  You could sell more if you did that. I'm sure your clients would appreciate it too.

7:35am • #14

Great Blog.  You have hit that part of our industry on the head.  I would be interested to see if any of the REO mill agents respond.  My thought is you treat they REO as you would your own personal property if you're selling it.  And for God Sake answer the phone or return a call promptly.  You could sell more if you did that. I'm sure your clients would appreciate it too.

 

7:36am • #15
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I do struggle with call backs from REO agents.  Also the lack of detail in their listings can be quite annoying.  One photo with no interiors.....

7:42am • #16
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We have some of the WORST in our area. Exactly as you say. One will only submit offers with a $1000 deposit. Says so right in the remarks. 

But to answer your Asset manager question, clearly they operate double lives. I am certain that they are far more responsive to their asset managers and make them believe that is how they always are. 

Since their listings sell no matter what in this market, the asset manager is none the wiser. 

7:44am • #17
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There are a lot of good REO agents and some the feel they are selling too many houses to get back to you. I have figured out who they are in my area.

8:08am • #18

We have REO agents in my area that will not answer their phones, return email inquiries and are just plain rude and lazy.

8:29am • #19

Yes! Very True! But many Buyer Agents are also a big part of the problem.  They have no knowledge and let buyers run the transaction based on misinformation and rumors and advice from friends and
relatives.  All agents need to become more informed and more in control of the transaction.  Many transactions just float all over the place.  Realtors have to have more sweat and blood in the deal.
Why should we be paid for a lackluster performance when we are on the "Real Estate Stage"?

 

 

8:53am • #20
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my comment regarding the supra boxes is this- I have had a supra keybox on one of my listings and it got stolen.  Of course the key was inside the box.  I never figured out who may want to take my keybox.  My client had to change the lock.

8:56am • #21
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G-II, well spoken and so true. There are a few good REO agents but you can count them on one hand

Bettina

8:58am • #22

Yes, answer your phone and return calls on the weekend too. That is pretty much my pet peeve for ALL agents, REO or otherwise. Post well done.

9:02am • #23
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As a buyers agent I completely agree with your stance of REO agents get with the program.  Its difficult to sell a home that you can't enter.  Call for a combo number and 3 days later you still don't have that number.  To REO agents, I can't sell what I can't show.

If a SUPRA box is too expensive and it's too expensive to take more than the 1 mandatory photo, what justifies your commission?

9:06am • #24
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No. 6 is right out for me. Publishing my cell phone is another way of giving license to Realtors to not go through the office procedure, and if I am with them. I have a team and all are professionals, and someone is almost always at the office. If I was a Realtor who didn't do many transactions, or doesn't have a team, then having your cell phone published I guess is okay. We are a distracted society anyway so let's not add to the chaos.  

9:06am • #25
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Amen brother, some REO 'agents' aren't doing anyone any favors by even taking the listings.

We have more than our share it seems.

9:07am • #26

Loved your title!!  :-)

9:20am • #27
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Great post - and I have experienced much of what you said. And putting your cell number in a listing so you are reachable. I have never understood why agents make it so difficult for agents with prospective buyers to reach them.

9:30am • #28

Great post! Love the lizard with feathers.

9:46am • #29
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Great post and the sad part is you are just scratching the surface!

9:47am • #30

Another acceptable quote would be:

"Worthless as hen sh*t on a pump handle"

I cannot for the life of me remember when and where I heard that but it fits like a glove!

We have a large REO department that I get complaints about all the time and I know first hand they are busy, busy, busy which is not an excuse.  Personally I would not want that responsibility but someones got to do it.  My biggest issue with REO's would be the unfair advantage that agents within the same office might have when a new listing comes up that they might have first hand info about.  It's like an investor buying a HUD home knowing full well they will not occupy that home yet nobody does squat about it.

Great post!

9:50am • #31

Hello G-II, Good points. Very frustrating when real estate agents don't answer their phones. I must tell you here in RI, well with my board of Realtors anyway the Supra Lock-box is ending in May. However we do have one system called MassPass which I love. Basically it is an answering service for REO listings. You call give your MLS id and they give you the code. E-mail verification within minutes and also e-mail feedback regarding the property. Works great. One more point. Maybe if the asset managers were willing to work with more agents this wouldn't be a problem. Good luck.

9:52am • #32
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Wow, that is pretty extensive and I agree with much of what you said.  Obviously, your recommendations apply to all of us. 

10:02am • #33
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You hit the nail on the head here and I love the usefulness of feathers on a lizard analogy!  For some reason many REO agents seem to think they don't play on the same field as the rest of us.  They need us to sell their listings...one would think a little cooperation might be useful!  Good post!  Thanks!

10:11am • #34

Try this one on for size... "Worthless as 'teets' on a bull." As a broker of both REO agents and "regular" agents, I have seen first hand the discrepancies between the way each of them do business. I see the challlenges my REO guys have with the sheer volume of issues with each and every transaction (a one-legged man in a butt kicking contest comes to mind) but we try to help them solve problems as a team. Sometimes the best advice these REO guys get comes from a regular agents who take the time to give them solid helpful criticism and a solution. Let's help these folks learn to distinguish their fannies from a whole in the ground. Here goes... A. Hire a Buyer's agent/Answering service/Assistant or provide ACCURATE info to your office manager that can keep updated info in the MLS system for you. B. Even if the Banks/Asset companies require coded boxes on the listing, put a Supra box on it as well - you can get them really cheap from agents who are going out of the business right now - they are depreciable on your income taxes & you will probably recoup the value should you decide to sell them later on C. Be kind to your fellow agents out there, they are the ones who are bringing the buyers to your homes and the faster you sell your REO listings, the more new lisitngs you will get from the bank, the more money you will make & our industry will stabilize and recover faster. We will all be a bit happier when we can sell this eccess REO inventory and return to a more normal market. To the professional agents, be you an REO agent or a Regular agent, play fair & keep up the good work!

 

Jill Reed
10:25am • #35
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Yeah..you are going to get alot of comments here..the asset managment companies...are contributing to the down turn in our economy..(my opinion) they give listings, to these large REO brokerage firms, who pay their agents squat....when there are a ton of us litle guys who are qualifed to list REOs..have to struggle to get the listings....but WILL ANSWER our phones... I had an REO agents minion tell me once..., when I dared to call about a contract I had submitted...."WE have over 100 listings, so we are pretty busy"....... WHAT!!!!!  Girlfriend, did not come to work that morning prepared to get the ear full she got from me after that IGNORANT statement...!!!

10:57am • #36
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I love this post! Love it! Love it! Love it! It says all the things that I have been keeping to myself, but would probably blurt out after a few martinis. Thanks for getting the word out!

11:18am • #37
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Amen and pass the salt. An REO agent is why I'm sitting at my desk this morning. She's left messages for me and I've left messages for her - but she's not checking hers. I respectfully disagree about the lockboxes - it's a matter of opinion. But REO agents should have to take an extra test!

11:21am • #38
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I think this must be a "localized" problem. I have worked with several over that last couple of months and have always received a response in a timely manner, always been able to show the property with my supra key and haven't had any problems. 

11:38am • #39
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In our area there is an REO agent named Willie Colston who should be an example to all REO agents.  He is familiar with every single one of his listings, answers phones, uses Supra keys. He has 85 listings at this time.  I happily show his listings any time.  His transactions are alwasys smooth.   I don't show listings of agents who only answer phones 9 to 5.

11:51am • #40
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REO agents.  For the most part i am going to have to disagree with most of what you said.  Most reo agents are good overworked under communicated agents.  They don't get support from the bank and are put out as to what to say.  I think you might be being a little harsh. 

11:51am • #41
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Thank you for the perfect post! We have an REO whose listings are almost un-buayable. She only comunicates via email and there is usually a 2 day turn around!

11:55am • #42
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Don't even get me started - dealing with REO realtors is the major frustration of my life these days...

12:07pm • #43
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Great article. I am going to be releasing a post tomorrow about buying a bank owned home and this is one of the pitfalls that we all face. There has been a monopoly with bank owned properties for a while and it fosters a terrible environment for other agents and consumers that have to deal with a lack of professionalism.

12:12pm • #44
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In our area there are many good REO agents and then there are those that are so bad they tarnish our industry. The most frustrating thing for us is not being able to reach the agent, lately we feel like we are stalkers.

12:19pm • #45

Here Here, you are not standing alone.  The poor service is just poor service and I find it shamful and unethical.

Randy Sanger
12:25pm • #46

Guys, I work for a mortgage banker, Competition Home Loans, and this post is soooooo true! I can't tell you how many times agents have called asking for an extension on a rate lock because they couldn't get a call back or coordinate inspections with an REO listing agent. The money is there for your buyers guys, just keep the faith, and hopefully a revelation will come over the few REO agents with 200+ listings to actually only take what they can handle instead of taking EVERYTHING so that we can actually get some semblance of continuity in this industry! These rate lock extensions aren't cheap or easy these days!

Deon Williams
12:47pm • #47
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I haven't had a terrible problem showing REOs or trying to reach some of the busiest REO agents in my area but our board requires the Supra lockbox on all listings -even if there is a combo box as well.  If there is no Supra - there is a fine to pay (unless your seller demands NO lockbox).  I show a lot of REOs so I would be very peeved if this were a problem.

12:50pm • #48
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I know there are good and bad REO agents. But you have to wonder if the asset managers knew what a terrible job the listing agent is doing, why do they continue to use them?

1:12pm • #49

Thank you for putting it in plain english!So many are not following the rules!  I sent an offer to an agent two weeks ago and left messages and still have yet to hear a reply!  My client's brother called her and she told him, "sure we are still accepting offers" even after she put the listing as TOM(temp off mkt) It is so frustrating!

Kay Lehmer, ABR, RE/MAX First in Real Estate, Tampa
1:19pm • #50
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I have had pretty good luck with REO agents in my area. But they still use them combo boxes which I hate. Besides not being track-able audit trail, they remind me of high school!

1:33pm • #51
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Amen, Brother.  One time I tied to show a client and REO and the combo wouldn't open the box.  I tried to reach the listing agent and after my client and I parted for the day, they called back to tell me it was the right combo.  I tried every which way I could and it would not work.  Finally, three days later they called bak and said. "ooops.  we had the 'wrong' box on there.  The combo is now correct."  The M-F thing, after 5pm thing all that is true here in the MD Suburbs of DC.  I'm dealing with one now where the listing agent won't even disclose the name of the bank, "Owner of Record" is what they want on the contract.

Don't get me started.

1:36pm • #52
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If you consider the age of tech. in which we exist then there are no valid reasons for not getting in touch.

I worked with a REO agent recently who was really on top of things and wanted to get the home sold. Unfortunately, I think this particular REO is beyond help. It is a sad thing that so many homes have been caught up in .the anger this economic climate has generated

1:47pm • #53
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Can't add anything else to your list, you've summed it up pretty neatly - the problem with many, if not most, REO listings. I had the unfortunate experience of trying to show one two Saturdays ago - and there was absolutely no access to the place at all, becasue the fence was chain-locked. Of course, the office agent could not have advised me of this fact, as the listing agent didn't even have the address imput correctly in the MLS...

1:56pm • #54
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We have one agent here in my area who does most of the REOs and you can never track him down! He won't even return calls to let you know he got your offer.

2:08pm • #55
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I list REO and always put supra key box answer my phone calls and return my emails. I hope to never be like those lazy bums that you have described above. I was on vacation in Turkey and one of my deals that was pending needed an imidiate attention now agent that was covering for me had a problem communicating with my asset manager I happen to check my emails and send a request while I was on vacation to solve the problem. The issue was resolved within hours. Now, would you have done that for your listing ? Probably not. Not all of us are lazy and worthless. Many of you would not survive in our shoes for one day. All the crap we deal with, don't get me started
2:22pm • #56
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I am so with you on this, it bugs the heck out of me. I did speak to an REO agent yesterday, we were discusing Supra and Sentrilock. Her lenders insist she put old combo loks on so that contrcators etc can get in if needed. Many a time I have been unabe to open these old lock boxes, and never got to show the property, and the agent does not care.

2:24pm • #57

Thanks for such a great post.   I'm sharing this one!  Please know that I've been in your shoes my friend.  There's a couple who work as a team in town (because 2 heads are better than 1, I guess)  and the voicemails are identical...."THIS IS ABSOLUTELY THE BEST WAY TO REACH ME"  YADA YADA YADA.  Well that was 3 months ago that I called and NO....I am not waiting for a return call.  We have moved on and my client found a fantastic home!

Funny thing is that I actually wanted to get into REO listings.  I'm glad I didn't because I take care of my clients and they are all happy with the job I do for them.  QUALITY vs. QUANTITY

Ginny Norman
2:26pm • #58
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You, my friend, are the "LOL of the DAY" . . .

Great post, and WHAT a perfect subject "useless as feathers on a lizard."  OMIGOSH -- LOL.

REO agents are NOT a LOL matter, however, so your point is well taken.  But you still get the "LOL of the Day" spot.

(I started a new GROUP . . . approrpriately named: LOL of the Day" if anyone wants to join, please do!  Contribute your personal LOL of the Day -- could be an entire blog, a comment on a blog that made you bust a gut . . . whatever!)

A tip of the hat to you, G-II

http://activerain.com/blogsview/1042633/LOL-of-the-Day-Goes-to-G-II-Varrato-II-As-Useless-as-Feathers-On-a-Lizard

 

2:34pm • #59
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Wow - That was one heck of a post. I represent REO properties and I can tell you - you would never have those problems with me. Perhaps it opens up a marketing niche for you? It sounds like the competition wouldn't be too tough to beat. That's how I got in. I always have a Supra Box on every one of my listings - even though my MLS requires it now, I did it before they required it. I answer my phone, texts, emails, and everything else usually within hours but definitely every day. The sun does not set on a return phone call or email for me.

I have dealt with agents like you described, and I took that as an opportunity to get involved and help the banks because the sooner we work through these, the sooner our economy and our markets will rebound as a whole.

2:36pm • #60

I totally agree with your post.  It is very frustrating showing REO properties. 

 

I wish the REO agents would get a secret shopper to report back to the bank as to how the agent handled their properties.  That would be an interesting report to read!

3:09pm • #61

WOW!! That about covers it from your side. How about from my side? I list REO properties and I am tired of agents calling me at all hours with stupid questions. Yes, I do answer ALL phone calls and put the Supra key lock box in place. The bank requires the combo lock box. Seems they would like access also. Call them silly but it is their property. My properites are cleaned and well maintained. They are checked on frequently . I dare you to try this job for a week. Sounds like sour grapes to me. Think you can do a better job?.... Have at it!!

Irene
3:40pm • #62

No disrespect intended to our REO agents, but please be considerate to your fellow Realtors.  Us, selling agents are trying to do our jobs:  Sell the REO agents' listings without harming our clients in the process. 

Courtesy phone calls seem to have become a thing of the past let alone answering the phone and answering nicely and professionally.

Many REO agents might feel that we (who are not REO agents) are making these comments because we would like to have your listings; yet that is not the case: all we ask for is for these REO agents to respond to our requests and be so kind to answer your phone.

 

Geraldine
4:58pm • #63
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G-II, I'm very fortunate that the largest REO agent in my area is very good. He carries about 500 listings but has a great team that works with him. I can send an email to check status and get a response within minutes. All of his properties have also been professionally cleaned. because of the way he conducts his business I love selling his listings. Then we have some newbie REO agents that really suck,

5:03pm • #64
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That is the best heading. lol...... REO agents as a whole are real pains.  Ever now a again I get to deal with one that does their job.  It's just so rare.

5:36pm • #65

Typically I dread working on REOs because the listing agents are so difficult to get on the phone.  I will say that I just finished two REO sales and the agents were really responsive -- maybe the times are changing?  I can only hope!  :-) 

9:37pm • #66
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Your title is very clever and just plain cute ~ it grabbed my attention. I agree with your content.

I can give you another one to add to your list. There is a REO agent in Spartanburg, SC who just gives out the combo code to potential buyers, does not even go to the property to open the door.

10:07pm • #67
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LOL - Love your title!  Now that more and more real estate agents are shifting their focus to distressed properties, I'm hoping that the attitudes and response times will improve.

10:20pm • #69
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I thought you were going to say they are "useless as a lizard".  Well, that's probably true also...  Unfortunately I've had multiple run-ins with these mega-REO agents who apparently don't do any work.  Are the banks paying them such a low commission that they don't want to spend any time marketing the property?  In any case, I agree with you 100% -- it's bad business and it ruins the professionalism of our industry.

11:44pm • #70
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Ding Ding Ding.... Great Post...

I think agents should use a Realtor Lockbox on ALL listings... I hate see a combo lock box on a home. Usually these are the agents who won't answer the phone too.

I currently have one REO listing.. Yes I know they have their 4 digit code they like to have on a combo lockbox. I explained to them the reason I wanted to use my Sentri Lockbox and they actually agreed with me. They did ask it I can program their code and of course I can. Well.. it will be one additional didgit in the beginning..

Now if they really want this typ box so they can get in.. Use two boxes... I want ALL Agents to use my Sentri Lockbox so we can record their entry. This is not possible with the combo box.  One good reason is this.... Even with the Sentri Lockbox they sent a REO Appraiser out.. Later that day the back door was discovered to be left open... We know who was there last....Yes.. the appraiser.

12:02am • #71

I would be curious as to the double dips REO agents have compared to traditional non REO agents. I understand it is competitive but 2 all cash deals above asking in the last 2 months did not even ask for highest and best. I think a lot of it is laziness but also greed as well..

 

1:00am • #72
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 The number gripe has to be not answering your phone.  Sometimes tenacity pays off, but the lack of courtesy can stick in ones throat like a furball.

5:13am • #73

True all around...but if you're an agent just starting out and want tons of buyer leads that no one will claim....Find your nearest REO Broker and have his not-so-sloppy seconds for lunch.

Always a silver lining right?

And of course, the order taking REO guys will soon be supplanted by those of us start enough to start building some google cred for the search terms "InsertYourCityHere REO" :)

Cool post, hit home...

8:17am • #74
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Hi G,

Right you are, there are some really bad agents out there, not just REO types.

I recall years ago, 2005 or 2006, I contacted an agent to show his listing to my buyers. This guy was a total incompetant. He would not return my calls, had inaccurate information on MLS, made inaccurate statements regarding the property and let's forget about the lockbox. What a fiasco! My clients made an offer and the listing agent botched the entire deal. My clients walked away shaking their heads, frankly, so did I.

Kathy B

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2:09pm • #76

After reading your blog and the comments, I'm disturbed because so many people form opinions of REO agents and don't have a clue as to what protocol we have to follow as dictated by the Asset companies and Lenders who make the rules. In order to get listings we must follow their guidelines and when I have tried putting the Sentrilocks on the listings, they make me take them off because they have people other than me that they hire to go in to the house, such as appraisers, preservation companies and sometimes they inspect the properties themselves. They want to be sure that they have access to the properties that they own. I am sorry that apparently many REO agents across the country are not offering their sellers good service. Many of them have bitten off more than they can chew right, but as long as they are moving the properties and the asset company doesn't catch them doing them wrong, they will remain in business. I'm just sorry that so many agents that apparently don't know how hard some of us work to get the job done right have written such demeaning blogs about REO agents. I work hard to maintain a good reputation and have represented my REO sellers with pride.

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12:56pm • #78
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Great post! However, I'm sorry to say that these problems are not just relating to REO agents, I get the same lack of professionalism from non-REO agents as well.

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