Just read a fellow Active Rain Members Blog about BPO vs Appraisers - This was my response (Below) which I hope generates a whole nother branch of thought for people.  Her question was should Brokers and Agents be paid for BPO's and whether the law stating banks could no longer higher appraisers be supported.   ............:

Interesting - I am in Florida and do BPO's.  We do not do appraisals, however a current market analysis of the subject property based on a long list of items - which does not include a professional inspection and include such things as electric, plumbing, roofing ect.  - however does include square footage, size of lots, amenities included, location, number of buildings, usage, zoning, data from tax records ect. and pictures of the subject properties.  This does give a basis of comparison - adjustments may be made to show where the market is.  Using sold properties from the last 3 months, pending sales and current actives a analysis will extrapolate where the price points in the market are.  Oh, by the way - research as to market factors, environment factors of location and general market conditions are also taken into account.  The amount of time and research is significant.

This is an REO market currently and one of the factors in my opinion were that the appraisers did work for the banks.  Here is Sarasota we have gone from an inflated price point to some of the steepest losses in equity to the point that many homeowners are in foreclosure and walking away.

In one example I know where the bank appraiser appraised the home at 250K in dec 2005 and a CMA today shows that house would most likely sit on the market as houses around it sell for 50K to 80K -  I believe 200,000 to be a significant loss - do you?  Location does impact as does what your neighbor's properties go for.

1. I do BPO's and do not take listings at all from the banks.

2. A BPO does not take the place of a home inspection by a qualified engineer.

3. Banks seem to not want to take responsibility for their part in the housing .....debacle. Yet their hands are out to the government for decisions they made that led to it. Hmmmmm

I Think it should be an at arms length whether it is a BPO or an Appraisal. 

 

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I have encountered out of state appraisals services that were doing appraisals for banks that contacted me wanting me to do a bpo because I was local, so they could do their appraisal from their office out of state. BPOs usually are done for a fee much less than an appraisal, which I believe is the motivator behind getting bpo instead of an appriasal done by many banks.  In our area, bpos are usually quicker.  I need to say here, though, that I do not do bpos.  Used to.  Not any more.

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There should be no pressure exerted by the bank/lender on values determined either by the Appraiser or the agent doing a BPO.  Arms length is fine, but more important is a true and accurate value.  Sometimes, difficult to get.

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I commented in the same post. .if you are doing BPO's and getting the REO. . you have a conflict of interest that should be reported to the banks. That is your duty.

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Well yes Gabe I agree about value, which is determined by what the market will bear; however.  If 30% of houses in the same area as subject are Foreclosed bank owned homes being put on the market "to sell" by the banks who just want a quick transaction..... we can expect that price points will drop.  Value and depreciation for all in the nieghborhood.

Fernando - not really sure why you would get the listing if you do the BPO's.  Not why I do them - I do bpo's for many reasons, not least of which is I am constantly studying my market and the properties.  Nor would I exept a BPO listing at this time.  Listings are money hogs for me and why should I maintain a property and pay electric (which banks want from REO Agents).  It is not my property and I am not going to maintain it as if it is.  Sorry I draw the line - if I wanted to be a property manager I would get my CAM license.

Judi - bummer - really you have been approached by apraisers to do BPO?  Wow that sounds not quite right.  Not the situation here so I cannot really comment.

Nobody is really addressing the issue regarding the banks and the inhouse appraisals they insisted on prior to all this banking failures.  I myself have a bank appraisal only 3 years old stating my home is worth 250,000 - yet the market numbers indicated I couldn't sell this house for 50,000 - thats a 200,000 dollar loss.   What was the appraisal comprised of - not really sure as I look around this house.  Needs a roof, needs bath fixtures, needs a good paint joy inside - cielings and walls - windows could be replaced and definitely need new sliders (three sets) and a new outside west wall. Note these are all in the same condition as when appraisal was done - so how in the world did an appraiser set the price so high?  Replacement value? Market Value? Bank wants to give a loan value?

Maybe having R/E Brokers do BPO's is the banks revenge.  Now they can say the real estate profession is setting the price points without explaining that they are the ones that ultimately are setting the market prices as they dump property onto the market. 

Truthfully  - how many of you have showed property in neighborhoods that are 60% bank owned or 45% bank owned.  Now the new think I am seeing is all the FDIC owned property taken into recievership when the bank who owned the property actually fails itself. 

I do not call this a "normal" market by any stretch of the imagination and yet it is being largely ignored by "normal" sellers - those that are moving on with thier lives.  They set there houses at 2006 price points and they sit for a year, 2 years and now 3 years, the listings being renewed, withdrawn, expired, reentered, renewed and relisted. 

Yet the news gives all these rosy portrayals of housing sales up, new mortgages being approved, the economy is getting better.  They even have numbers that seem to agree with them - yet more homes are expected to be foreclosed on - triple the number of last year.  This appears to be a dichotomy that I for one cannot balance.

 

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