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 Most of us don't give a lot of thought to Toilet paper  unless we visit a foreign country.  We see it advertised on television, in magazines in fact just about everywhere.  You can buy it at the market, the drug store, even some gas stations..just about any place.  It used to be something that only the rich could afford but over the years it has become a staple in just about every home  and public restroom in the country. 

Here is an interesting thing about toilet paper.. it all looks alike but the difference in quality is huge.   I found this out a  week ago when I picked up a package at a local store.  There was a big aisle of the stuff.. all sizes and brands. I only needed a 4 roll package ..  no one makes small packages anymore..so after looking I picked up a valuepack of the store brand because it was smallest available. It looked really good and it said I should compare the price to brand XXYY as they were the same.... WRONG.. 

When I opened the package the first thing I noticed was that the roll was squishy.. not soft .. squishy.. that was because it was rolled to appear large but really wasn't..  My Mother was visiting .. she is 85 and grew up during the Depression.. she is thrifty and frugal.. I don't believe she has the first dime she ever earned but I know for sure she has the third and fourth... and boy was she ticked about the quality of this stuff. When she makes statements about you get what you pay for... you know you made a big error..

Oh.. did I mention this was on Sunday night when 60 Minutes presented their quality report on scum sucking  REALTORS® with their sacrosanct 6% vs the Splendid folks from Redfin who give the same quality for less.... I was particularly impressed by the top notch agent who had gone to work for Redfin because she couldn't justify making so much money for 5 hours of work.  I believe she has made a good choice in Redfin.. she won't have to work so many hours now..

Naturally after watching the program my first thought .. was about the toilet paper.   I wondered how many people were like the ones on 60 Minutes.. who didn't care about quality.. just cost. I wondered if people really look at an aisle full of agents and think they all look alike so pick the smallest or cheapest.  I was curious about  how many agents seem to look like a full service agent but are really just squishy inside because they don't have the content of a professional agent. 

So I guess my real question is.. how are you projecting yourself so you look different from the rest of the rolls in the aisle.  There has been a lot of talk about transparency but do clients really care about  transparency or do they just want cheap.   Brian Brady has an interesting take on Transparency in Lending.. that addresses the issue.  Reading  the comments made on the CBS site about that story I was amazed at the consumers who defended us.. intrigued by those who didn't care about whether or not anything said was true about agents .. they hated all agents across the board  and  sadly.. embarrassed by how some of the agents who responded conducted themselves.

I think that I am of the opinion that transparency is probably not the answer.  I don't think most people are interested in what we do to earn our money. They want results not justification.  I think the ones who rant against agents are much like the Bubble bloggers.. they have an agenda and nothing will change that agenda.  The ones who want the Redfin model will use them and never admit it didn't work so well.. as for the rest of the people who may use our services.. they will expect to receive good value for the money they spend.. and will not choose just any roll from the aisle.  How you prove your worth will be the determining factor in how well you do in our business. 

If you do a great job for your clients.. they won't question your worth..  and who knows you might even get a stunning bouquet of Spring flowers with a lovely note from a  client who appreciates your value.....  just like I did today...

 

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68 Comments on Do people really choose an agent like they do toilet paper?

Kaye - loved this analogy - it's late here i gotta come back and read more tomorrow - really loved it thought!!! Great job!!

05/24/2007 01:19 AM by Clearwater Real Estate Pinellas County Condos & Homes for Sale- Cyndee Haydon (Charles Rutenberg Realty)


Hi  Kaye !

Thanks for sharing this info with us. Keep posting !

Nalliah Thayabharan

Commercial and Residential Building Inspector

Expert Building Inspections Ltd

05/24/2007 01:34 AM by Nalliah Thayabharan Home Inspector Commercial Building Inspector Toronto (Expert Building Inspections Ltd)


If it's okay with you, I'll just be a roll of Brawny Paper Towels, okay? A challenging persepctive, thanks!

05/24/2007 01:35 AM by Rich Jacobson ~ ActiveRain Community Builder (ActiveRain Corporation)


I love this analogy. I just hope they don't pick the smallest or I am in BIG trouble! I will be back to see how this goes. This is really great.

05/24/2007 01:46 AM by Albuquerque Real Estate | Ashley Drake Gephart (Keller Williams Realty)


That purple TP looks like shop towel weight.  You go Beach girl!!!

05/24/2007 01:50 AM by Laurie Manny, Long Beach CA Real Estate (Main Street Realtors Long Beach California)


Good analogy-lots of brands and qualities to choose from...alll perform the same function with a different level of care.  We just need to keep in mind that we are disposable and replacable and keep doing the best job possible so we're the ones that continue to be the ones chosen to perform our services.  Thanks for the post and a great reminder that quality is never cheap.  And, for some, price will always be the deciding issue or in your analogy...tissue.

05/24/2007 01:51 AM by Laguna Homes|Laguna Condos| Laguna Real Estate|Marlene Bridges (Sherman Smith & Associates)


Cyndee- Glad you stopped by.. and yes it is late in FL

Nalliah- Thank you for commenting

Rich- Brawney seems the right choice for a Northwest guy..

Ashley- There's one for every size

05/24/2007 02:12 AM by Manhattan Beach CA/ e-PRO..... Kaye Thomas... (Real Estate West)


Laurie-

I thought purple was for royalty..have you been hanging out with the boys in the garage again?

 

05/24/2007 02:14 AM by Manhattan Beach CA/ e-PRO..... Kaye Thomas... (Real Estate West)


Marlene- After I picked the wrong TP.. I realized .. they look alike.. . but there really is a difference..Same with agents... some people may think we are all alike.. but good quality will always be discernible...As long as we maintain our quality we will be in good shape.. Like Mom said.. you get what you pay for..

05/24/2007 02:19 AM by Manhattan Beach CA/ e-PRO..... Kaye Thomas... (Real Estate West)


Hi Kaye,

Loved your post and you are so right. Sounds to me like your mother and mine went to the same "mom's school". As always, thanks for sharing.

05/24/2007 03:10 AM by Orange Co. Real Estate~Lynda Eisenmann, Broker-Owner, CRS,CRB,GRI,SRES, Brea, CA (Preferred Home Brokers)


I've never, ever, received a referral on toilet paper :)

05/24/2007 03:19 AM by Kaushik Sirkar (Call Realty, Inc.)


I have been thinking about transperency as well. My current conclusion (note this could change at a moments notice) is that in general, younger tech savvy buyers want the detailed information, they want to be informed about the transaction. My older senior clients couldn't care less.

05/24/2007 05:00 AM by Lisa Dunn www.TwinCitySeller.com (Edina Realty)


Kaye, I love the analogy and hopefully the majority of buyers pick based on honestly, referrals. I do think the data shows, it is the first agent to get to them from the web site, they pick.

05/24/2007 05:51 AM by Missy Caulk Ann Arbor Realtor Ann Arbor Real Estate (Keller Williams Ann Arbor)


Very good!  I missed an analogy?  How can that be?  lol  I do enjoy a good one though, and certainly this applies in the context you have written it.  Too often consumers don't shop. They do not for thed most part interview Realtors, (some will-but most don't) and in the end they may not be happy with their choice. I think we are beginning to see a change in mentality as with the toilet paper that "fluff" has nothibng to do with quality!   Well Done Kaye-congratulations on your star.

05/24/2007 05:54 AM by Allison Stewart REALTOR ®St. Cloud Florida (Florida Pines Realty, Inc)


You get waht you pay for.  Our clients prefer the soft touch.  They also want absorbancy!  Great post.

05/24/2007 05:59 AM by Tim Wade (RE/MAX Realty Champions)


What about the people that still use the Sears catalog or the old book of yellow pages?  What does that mean?  :)

05/24/2007 06:10 AM by Chris Elizabeth Griffith ~ Bonita Springs Fl Real Estate (Keller Williams Elite Realty, Bonita Springs, FL)


Kaye,

I prefer charmin because it is squeezably soft! If I say something I might get pissed off again and you know how I feel about that situation.

I would rather not comment to about people lower on the food chain.great post in my opinion.

Do you prefer yellow or redfin tuna?

05/24/2007 06:16 AM by Neal Bloom-Realtor ® Assoc.-CRS-Weston FL (RE/MAX Premier Associates)


Well I never thought of toilet paper and our services being a great way to compare an anology, but it is fresh and different!

Yes 60 minutes did slam our profession fairly well.  I get mad about it when I think about all I do without in an effort to try and make it in this profession right now.  I may not be ready for the soup lines but I am having to do without many important items because of my situation.

05/24/2007 06:25 AM by Cynthia Sloop (Community Property Manager)


I guess it really is all about perspective...POV...and all that!  This post was certainly written from a unique, (though highly a relatable to everyone) perspective! 

05/24/2007 07:00 AM by Deborah Burns ~ Seattle Real Estate Agent (BRIO Realty)


hmmm toilet paper interesting analogy.  Reminds meof the better deal buyer who works with multiple agents thinking he or she will get a better deal that way.

05/24/2007 08:06 AM by Teresa Boardman (Keller Williams)


We run into all kinds of people in this business... Some appreciate quality and look for our brand knowing it will pay off in the long run, others will use us like toilet paper and give us the flush. Our job also entails reading character so we invest time in people we trust.

05/24/2007 08:21 AM by Dan Cummings - Connecticut's Running Realtor (Raveis Real Estate)


Great analogy. I never thought of myself as toilet paper. I hope I am not the cheap brand or the sand paper kind! Great Post!

05/24/2007 08:36 AM by Christy Powers - Pooler, Savannah Real Estate Agent (Keller Williams Coastal Area Partners)


My Investment is in the Market Place, I will earn with or with out the Generics

05/24/2007 08:37 AM by Mitchell Jamel e-PRO Realtor (Brite Realty - Saint Augustine Florida)


Well put. It is Charmin for me. I wouldn't take anything else even if they were giving it away.

05/24/2007 08:50 AM by T.U.P. Realty


Quality begets quality.  Love this analogy and it's definitely better to take the high road in the response to the 'news' stories out there.  Because you're right-consumers don't care about what we do as long as their results benefit them.

05/24/2007 09:50 AM by Leigh Brown Charlotte NC Broker/Owner (RE/MAX Signature Properties)


Hmmm Kaye, never thought I would be compared to toilet paper...LOL    I am bi-lingual, fluent in English and Spanish, created the nations fist bi-lingul hotline for buyers, sat 5 years on the planning & zoning commission of our county, take a lot of voluntary classes that are not required and started my CCIM classes in May of 2006.  I make a lot of phones calls and am a stickler about staying in touch with buyers/sellers and expect a lot from co-op agents.  That is how I am different dear.

05/24/2007 10:11 AM by Boise Idaho Real Estate - George Tallabas (RE/MAX Advantage)


Hi Kaye,

Excellent analogy!  Top notch in fact!  But I just can't elaborate at this time. :)  Congrats on your star and more so on your flowers from your client.  That's a real special tribute to your service. 

05/24/2007 10:55 AM by Pascack Valley Real Estate>> Lisa and Robert Hammerstein (Coldwell Banker)


Nice analogy - I think I'll be the two ply =D

I come with a backup team if you know what I mean. Support is always important - 1 ply just doesn’t cut it. 

05/24/2007 10:57 AM by Abraham Chaffin - Cambria Real Estate (Sand Shell Realty)


Nice! Sounds like a great book title, The Toilet Paper & the Realtor. Either way, we still have to put up with a bunch of crap. Thanks 60 Minutes! Nice post.

05/24/2007 11:07 AM by Doug Lindstrom (ReMax Alliance)


Eveline-While I think the 60 minutes story was very one sided.. I do believe we need to be aware that many in the public view us in an unflattering light.. the only way we can change it is by our actions..

Lynda- Hey we both grew up in Orange County.. isn't that where the National Mom school is.. :)

Kaushik- I haven't received one on toilet paper  either but have surely had a few that weren't worth the paper they were written on..

Lisa- I think your senior clients care as much as the younger clients do.. but most of them have been through the process and know have some idea how things work.. younger people starting out  have a skewed perception and don't realize just what is involved..There is a lot more that has to happen to have a successful transaction the uploading a few pictures to a web site.

Missy- Buyers and sellers need to pay attention to the quality of the agent they are choosing rather then base the choice just on price.. which doesn't mean that we don't have to be competitive in price.. we do..

05/24/2007 11:10 AM by Manhattan Beach CA/ e-PRO..... Kaye Thomas... (Real Estate West)


Kaye,  Very well thought out post--You deserve the flowers!

05/24/2007 11:16 AM by Patrick Martin (Re/Max Edge)


Your analogy is wonderful.  I had another colorful analogy in my post:  A REALTOR's Worth: What 60 Minutes "forgot" to tell you.  I will be including your post in the Week in Review.  This conversation definately needs to be kept alive. 

05/24/2007 11:23 AM by Rich Schiffer, REALTOR, e-PRO (Weichert, Realtors)


Allison.. I think that as  most consumers get around the  fluff  and  the hype  of the new business models and look at exactly what they really do and don't do they will not be taken in.. I would love  to see a few stories in the media about the trouble people have gotten into when they have received limited or bad representation.. which is not always from a different business model..

Tim & Pam- Yep... I think that is what most clients want.. sadly many don't realize they didn't get it until after they have opened the package and it's too late to return it..

Chris- There will always be those who don't want to deal with new-fangled products.. and they are not limited to consumers.

Neal- I knew Charmin would be your choice.. and I prefer my tuna roasted!

Cynthia- This business is not easy.. it is tough and takes a lot of perseverance and skill to make it.. The reason most homeowners are not successful as FSBO's isn't that they are dumb.. it's just that this business is much harder then it looks.. I hope things improve in your arera..

Dave- Thanks for reading and commenting..

Deborah-My sense of humor is a bit off-kilter I will admit.. but I do think that most people see us as one  out of the aisle of similar products.. We need to stand out  from the rest of the rolls and make our worth known 

05/24/2007 11:37 AM by Manhattan Beach CA/ e-PRO..... Kaye Thomas... (Real Estate West)


Teresa- Oh yes I know those people..  They are always so surprised when you decide not be part of their team..

Dan- A very apt analogy..As much as we need to educate the public we also need to educate ourselves

Christy- I'd bet you are the perfect brand.. great quality at a good price.

Mitchell- It has been proven that not all generics are as good as the original product.... they are just cheaper.

Jeff- Ah a discriminating buyer who knows what he wants..

Leigh- A good agent always gives value beyond the expected level.. As frugal as Mom is.. she knows that cheap is often a lot more expensive in the long run then quality

05/24/2007 11:50 AM by Manhattan Beach CA/ e-PRO..... Kaye Thomas... (Real Estate West)


What a great Post!

I was wondering how this would look from the toilet papers perspective sitting on the shelves?-what would they say to each other between the cruciating pressure of being picked?-hey we are all white-how are they going to choose us?, guess what she'll pick me because I'm two ply, no I'll be picked next because I made from recycled paper called redsomething... (yuk-lol), no I'll be picked because I'm bigger...

and the moral of the story is that you have got to give consumers more reasons to pick you over the competition.  I see a lot of Realtor Web-sites every day and they still look like just white paper to me-they all look a like-generalist, generalist, generalist.  Pick a niche, pick two, pick three just help me why I should select you besides your picture and your designations which I have no clue about anyway?

Coach Steve
Tune into Real Coaching Radio-putting a spin on Coaching & Personal Development

05/24/2007 11:58 AM by Coach Steve Toth (Real-Coaching Institute™)


George- Glad you found the humor.. Your qualifications speak for themselves..  Your clients know they will receive value for their money... you couldn't be the person you are and offer them anything less..

Lisa & Robert- Thank you for your very kind words.. the flowers were much appreciated..

Abraham-No question that in today's world you have to be better then the average brand.. multiple layers really puts you ahead.. so to speak..

Doug- Thanks for the book idea.. we can learn a lot by reading the crap-o-meters..

Patrick- Thank you..Needless to say my client is a very classy lady.. the note and the flowers  were unexpected but wonderful.. it is so nice when you know a client appreciates how hard you worked for them..

05/24/2007 12:06 PM by Manhattan Beach CA/ e-PRO..... Kaye Thomas... (Real Estate West)


Rich- Thank you.. I am honored to be included in the week in review.... I had bookmarked both your articles.. haven't finished all the links yet but plan to respond when I do..  Personally I don't think the story itself is as important as how we handle ourselves when dealing with it..

05/24/2007 12:20 PM by Manhattan Beach CA/ e-PRO..... Kaye Thomas... (Real Estate West)


Jokes in bad taste are racing through my mind like a one-seat car at Indy.  But I think it best to remain silent....

05/24/2007 12:39 PM by Chris Lengquist, RIPS (Keller Williams Realty)


Coach Steve- No question we need to rise above "pick me..pick me"  group think..Consumers want information and it isn't just listings they are looking for..  I think Laurie Manny is a great example of what agents need to offer.. if you look at her web site and blog  you will see why she is one of the top agents in her area.. she provides quality information and then some to those who visit her website and blog.. Gena Riede also does a bang up job as do most of the people on AR..Teresa Boardman is  one of the 10 best female bloggers in America.. Bryant Tutasis the most popular blogger on AR and owns Poincianna  FL.. his market place.. Lenn Harleyhas forgotten more about the internet then most of us will ever know..I could go on and on about the talent that is to be found in this community.. Look-at-me-I'm pretty/handsome.. doesn't cut it anymore.. Whoops.. didn't mean to get so carried away..

05/24/2007 12:40 PM by Manhattan Beach CA/ e-PRO..... Kaye Thomas... (Real Estate West)


Chris-  I thank you for your bout of decorum...LOL

05/24/2007 12:41 PM by Manhattan Beach CA/ e-PRO..... Kaye Thomas... (Real Estate West)


Kaye: very nicely put....the separation between full service and "Full Service" is vast....so is the difference in agents.  Marketing is the key.  I just read something a few days ago about "Premium Service" agents.  I thought that would be a great concept.  We will always have those that want results for the least possible price.  Other would rather have results and pay the price.  We have standards and requirements just not all agents and brokers maintain the high side of either.  Great post!

05/24/2007 01:16 PM by Gary White~ Grand Rapids Real Estate, FlexIt Realty, a call or click away! (Flexit Realty~Serving West Michigan)


No question, that there are a lot Realtors that get it, but every one that you could send me I could send you a hundred that doesn't and that's what needs transforming.

I did check out Laurie Manny's site, I didn't find one "I" statement, it's all you, your, yours-she gets it, brilliant.  Definitely an example to follow.

Coach Steve 

 

05/24/2007 01:47 PM by Coach Steve Toth (Real-Coaching Institute™)


As a consumer, you are right, I want "results not justification".  If I want to move, and you sell my house quickly, return my phone calls, answer my questions, I'll pay your fee.  All because you were worth it.

05/24/2007 01:51 PM by Ann Guy (NA)


I definitely am wrapped better!  WooHoo!  And the contents are devine!  WooHoo. Full service, premium service whatever the name....I give outstanding service. I go in and paint, clean, stage and do whatever it takes....and do it myself to save my seller $. For buyer's I pay for their home inspection, home warranties, fix things the seller will not agree to ....hmm....I think I'll write a blog on how much I do do.  In any case....I don't like the toilet paper that sticks when wiping nor the one that tears while wiping. hahaha.  I am the in between. Okay...did I stay on subject? You really oughta write this kind of stuff more often Kaye...I love it!

05/24/2007 03:26 PM by Celeste "SALLY" Cheeseman (RA), e-PRO HAWAII Real Estate & HAWAII Relocation (Century 21 Liberty Homes -Mililani, Hawaii)


Wayne- Glad you liked it..

Gary- Yes I like the concept of Premium Service agents.  Consumers should have a choice.. to pay a little for a little service or pay a bit more for Premium service.. what is wrong is that they shouldn't pay for something they are not receiving.. it's OK to charge less.. just be honest about what you are offering..

Coach Steve-- Yep Laurie definitely get's it.. as do many others here in the Rain..I know you are right that for every agent who get's it there are a lot more who don't.. I would really like to see the States begin to initiate higher standards for a real estate license.

Ann- Absolutely.. people will  pay for something they deem to be valuable.. what they don't want is shoddy service at a high price.. 

Sally- Yes.. you are always on the subject... I think you should definitely write about what you do..

I go in and paint, clean, stage and do whatever it takes....and do it myself to save my seller $.

I don't know a really good agent who hasn't done all of the above and more.. a month ago I cleaned a bathtub and a stove because I didn't have time to get someone in before I had to show the property..

I'd write more of this stuff but am afraid I'd soon be out of control.... LOL 

 

 

05/24/2007 03:54 PM by Manhattan Beach CA/ e-PRO..... Kaye Thomas... (Real Estate West)


Kaye,

Great comparison. I think most people do choose their agent like toilet paper. They shouldn't, but they do. And then they often are disappointed, because they didn't take their time to find the right one. Your mother is right.

05/24/2007 07:30 PM by Esko Kiuru - Las Vegas NV Mortgage Consultant (Sinifox Financial)


Esko- Yes it is tough for consumers.... they see all the rolls lined up and don't realize that they are not all the same.. hire me.. I'm cheap is vastly different from hire me.. I'm competent..

 

 

 

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05/24/2007 08:00 PM by Manhattan Beach CA/ e-PRO..... Kaye Thomas... (Real Estate West)


Not to get too specific, but I give a lot of thought to TP...so maybe I would pick a good agent too :-)  lol

Cottenelle all the way, baby

05/24/2007 08:27 PM by Carole Cohen Realtor®, ePRO (Howard Hanna Cleveland City Office)


Results are the key.

High prices do not guarantee results (wine is a great example).

Lower prices do not mean poor service (my Abstract company is a good example  :^) ).

While this thread (and AR in general) is loaded with Realtors.....thus a 'justification of fee' type of attitude... (still not sure why so many play a 'defensive posture'), I'm sure there are some very happy Redfin customers.  Did THEY make a bad decision? 

So ... how does a consumer know where ANY of us fit in?  Referrals.

 

05/24/2007 08:39 PM by Rob Robinson- Lehigh Valley PA (Bertrum Settlements (Title & Abstract))


Carole- Oh my a challlenge match.. Charmin vs Cottenelle.. may the best ??  win... I also must be spending more time thinking about TP then I should or this post would never have happened...

Rob- Referrals could certainly be a start.. and  I agree .. it isn't about price.. it's about what you give(agents) or receive (consumers)for the price that is important..Of course there are happy Redfin customers.. and no they didn't make a bad choice.. they paid for the level of service that works for them.. but there are also  happy clients who paid a little more for more  service and they are happy with their choice.. and there will always be those who pay a little or a lot and will never be happy with the service they receive..

05/24/2007 11:04 PM by Manhattan Beach CA/ e-PRO..... Kaye Thomas... (Real Estate West)


Nice post Kaye, and great analogy. So Redfin is like cheap toilet paper. I love it!  ;)

05/24/2007 11:41 PM by Ryan Hukill - Edmond Realtor® (Hukill Group - Paradigm Realty)


Ryan- Now I never said that.. I just posed  a question about how people choose an agent..

05/24/2007 11:52 PM by Manhattan Beach CA/ e-PRO..... Kaye Thomas... (Real Estate West)


Ha, I know that Kaye. Just having a litte fun with it. Nice post though!

05/25/2007 12:03 AM by Ryan Hukill - Edmond Realtor® (Hukill Group - Paradigm Realty)


Ryan- I suspected as much...  still  there is nothing better then a fish you hooked..  yourself..

05/25/2007 12:49 AM by Manhattan Beach CA/ e-PRO..... Kaye Thomas... (Real Estate West)


Great analogy, Kaye, and lots of good commentary. Some folks are always going to go for the price only - if it ain't a bargain they wont buy. You just have to know what kind of client you want to attract and focus on doing what is necessary to meet those needs, whether it's the bargain shopper of someone who is willing to pay for the service. You can't do both, nor should you, IMO.

Jeff

05/26/2007 12:53 AM by Jeff Dowler ~ Carlsbad Real Estate (RE/MAX Associates)


Thks for the response Kaye.  It just seemed when I read your initial blog a FEW times.... you were taking a shot at Redfin .....when you apparently agree, there are UNDOUBTEDLY (?) happy clients that saved a significant (to them) buck.

I liked your direction on how 'we' present ourselves, and services...much more than what APPEARED to me as the one liner shots at 'low priced' competition.

05/26/2007 01:02 AM by Rob Robinson- Lehigh Valley PA (Bertrum Settlements (Title & Abstract))


Jeff- Consumers need to decide what level of service they want...  Nothing wrong with bargain prices as long as you understand that means you will usually get service to match..

Rob- My only problem with firms like Redfin is that they outright lie about what I do and then they want me to do most of the work for them so they can appear to be the consumer's friend.  I  would have far more respect for them if they just came right out and said they give significantly less service so they will charge less.. I find nothing wrong with that business model.. it is forthright and tells the consumer exactly what they will get..

05/26/2007 01:42 AM by Manhattan Beach CA/ e-PRO..... Kaye Thomas... (Real Estate West)


Kaye, I agree with you 100% on what you said about Redfin. That's the only problem I have also. Be honest and forthcoming and there's no problem, but trashing full-service business models, then expecting us to be helpful and respectful to them is just not right. Treat others as you want to be treated, right?

05/27/2007 12:36 AM by Ryan Hukill - Edmond Realtor® (Hukill Group - Paradigm Realty)


Ryan-It works for me.. Hope you have a good holiday..

05/27/2007 02:22 AM by Manhattan Beach CA/ e-PRO..... Kaye Thomas... (Real Estate West)


My potential sellers selected the cheap brand.......because they only operate on cheap and they are loaded.  Yes, I did a cma on a property that use to be a model home.  Investor purchased it at the beginning of the development hoping to make the big bucks at the end.  Now, 3 years later he wants $200,000 more than he paid for the property but refused to pay more than a 5% commission and wanted every marketing avenue available and then some. Needless to say with 15 years experience and the ability to put my listings in 2 states, 3 MLS systems, and 6 web sites I was not dropping below 5.5%. I was not taking the listing for $100,000 more than the property would sell.  Homes in this price range are selling about 1 every 3 months and there is a 2.5 year supply with the market as it is now in our area. Did I do myself "in" for not fighting for the listing?  I don't think so, although it did hurt to see that a brand new agent took the listing.  Obviously he does not have a mentor who would have taught him better.  

I pride my self in giving the excellent service for what I get paid and I don't intend to cut rate my service and pay just to "take" the listing. I prefer the "better brand" of paper. 

05/28/2007 09:43 AM by Peggy Gist


Rob-- I think they found me :)

 

Peggy- One of the great things about being a REALTOR® is that you can choose who you wish to have as  a client and if it doesn't work you can go on to someone else..

05/28/2007 10:38 AM by Manhattan Beach CA/ e-PRO..... Kaye Thomas... (Real Estate West)


Being compared to squishy toilet paper... hmmm...I like it.

Fran

05/29/2007 10:27 PM by Fran Gatti - Crescent City CA Real Estate (RE/MAX Coastal Redwoods)


 

Fran- We aim to please.. or something like that..

05/29/2007 11:21 PM by Manhattan Beach CA/ e-PRO..... Kaye Thomas... (Real Estate West)


Hi Kaye,  Very catchy title...you had me expecting something with Mr. Whipple in it (he of don't squeeze the Charmin fame)!  Seriously, though, quality matters and it is worth paying for--thanks for pointing that out in a very unexpected way.  Cheers, Harley

03/08/2008 09:31 PM by Harley Ramsey Chatsworth, CA Real Estate (Keller Williams)


Harley- I forget why this came to me.. but I think it is appropriate.. I'll be posting in the next few days on agents that are lower then toilet paper..

03/08/2008 11:50 PM by Manhattan Beach CA/ e-PRO..... Kaye Thomas... (Real Estate West)


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Real Estate Agent: Manhattan Beach CA/ e-PRO..... Kaye Thomas...  (Real Estate West)
Manhattan Beach CA/ e-PRO..... Kaye Thomas...
Manhattan Beach, CA
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