The difference between these long cylindrical objects may appear to be a matter of semantics, but when it comes to electricity they are clearly defined.

A pipe is a tube, meaning it is hollow, used to transport liquid or gas. A rod would be solid and has many uses including an electrical ground.

Just to confuse things a pipe can be used for a main electric ground and they often were and still are today. Most everyone is familiar with the ground wire on the main water pipe from the street. But that can not be the only ground today. There should be a second ground on the system. In the case of a home with a well that pipe is often plastic. Plastic is not a conductor of electricity so an alternative is required.

In the photo the ground pipe pictured is for a home with a well. The electric service had been up dated fairly recently, but not the grounding. Or at least it looked as if a cursory attempt was made to "update" the ground.

On the exterior a rod is required, not a pipe. It must be driven into the ground eight feet (tell me how you check that!).  The yellow arrow is pointing to a rod right next to this pipe that would be a good candidate for a ground.

The red arrow is showing the ground wire that goes back to the main electric panel. This wire is supposed to be in direct contact with the rod. The problem here is the "electrician" used an electrical pipe clamp and the wire is not contacting the pipe.

Following the wire back to the main panel it was discovered the wire itself was significantly undersized. In addition there was only one ground wire. This newer system was render basically unsafe by the grounding being improperly and inadequately updated.

Fortunately this problem can be fixed fairly easily and inexpensively by a qualified electrician. So remember just because something looks newer doesn't necessarily mean it's right or safe.

James Quarello
JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC

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12 Comments on A Pipe or Rod, What's the Difference?

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Mr James,

We are on the same page there. I learned from Mr Charles that those galvanized pipes SHOULD ONLY be used in the water supply system. If I see any other piping, I suggest galvanized pipes be installed immediately, just like Mr Charles. That does not make said piping suitable for grounding. Bet you had no clue that I know so much.

Nutsy

1:53pm • #1
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Nutsy, I just thought you had no clue. But I must confess you're correct about the galvinized pipe.

2:22pm • #2

James, one thing about a pipe you could drop your tape measure in there and tell how deep it was. LOL

3:51pm • #3
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Jack, That's a good point, about the only good point you could make about that pipe. :)

5:00pm • #4
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Mr James,

Since we are in agreement on that, how about we celebrate by hoisting a few.

 

Nutsy

5:10pm • #5
375,879 Points 23 Featured Posts Outside Blog

Would a galvanized barbecue spit have a deleterious effect on squirrel?  Then again how about Ground Squirrel between buns?

7:36pm • #6
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Mr. Nutsy, I have been known to hoist a few. Usually during a nice summer barbecue.

Charlie, Squirrel burgers? Hmmm, your culinary curiousness is intriguing. Maybe we can get Nutsy to sit on a spit and spin. :)

5:49am • #7
MAY
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Bond, James Bond...

Oh, I check the depth with my hickory divining rod.

7:56pm • #8
MAY
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Did somebody mention James Bond. That wa my biggest role to date, very popular in Jamaica.

Nutsy W

11:04am • #9
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Jay, That must be one of them new fancy high tech tools I heard about.

Nutsy, I thought your biggest role was in Walla Walla doing 5 - 10.

7:30pm • #10
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James, actually he is there all day and all night:)

7:34pm • #11
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Low tech, but apparently very effective!  My sister in law built a house 35 years ago in  the boonies north of Baltimore.  They hired a diviner to find the well and he did.  It was interesting to watch him.  He walked all around.  The hickory rod shook and pointed downward.  He says, "Here's where you dig and the water is down about 30 feet."  It was 38 feet down, right where he said!

7:57am • #12

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