After seeing in person several homes with Chinese drywall and seeing the Red Flags in those homes of what to look for I have compiled a simple list that will give you a good start in the search to see if your home has this problematic drywall in it:

  1. Use you sense of smell.  If you detect a sulfur like odor, you might have it.
  2. Look at the soft reactive metals in your home.  Copper and Silver seem to be the first to show signs of reacting to the corrosive off gassing of the drywall.
  3. Copper wiring that is turning dark is a tell tail sign.  It turns almost black when it is exposed to the drywall off gassing.
  4. Most of us have pennies sitting in a jar, bowl or whatever.  Take a look at that pocket change that has been sitting on the desk for a while.  If the pennies on top are turning dark and the ones further down in the jar are not, then you might have it.
  5. Silver plated picture frames are another good test.  If they are turning dark, you might have a problem.
  6. Silver jewelry is another good prospect to see if you might be at risk. 
  7. Looking for the Made in China or Knauf/Tianjin marks on the back of the drywall in black ink.  This is a guarantee that you have it!  This can be done form the attic or even an air return chase.

Note:  If you find Made in China or Kanuf  on the back of the drywall in Blue ink, this drywall seems to be OK.

Any of the above situations or items along with the smell of sulfur in the home is about the best way to tell if your home is at risk of having Chinese drywall or drywall that has been mixed with fly ash.  After talking with individuals who's homes have had this drywall, they all said that it started after they had been in the home for more than a few months and some took as long as four years.  A common thread was that they all started to notice their silver jewelry was turning or tarnishing more than it ever did as soon as they moved into their new home.

At this time we have no sure method of testing an entire home to see if it has Chinese drywall in it.  The only way to test via a lab is to take a sample (1" round core) every 4 feet in every wall and on every ceiling that has drywall.  Why every 4'?  The drywall sheets are in 4'x8' sheets so you must test every sheet!  It is cost prohibited and very destructive to do this type of testing.  Visual is the best method we have at this time for identifying a home with Chinese drywall.  Be careful of the testing scams that have popped up over the past few months. 

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25 Comments on How to tell if you have Chinese Drywall in a home

MAY
16

Actually, there are many other non-destructive and minimally intrusive tests that can be conducted, besides what this citizen has described. Think about it, you want to test for sulfur contained in the gypsum in your drywall. Why would you need a large 1 inch hole? Why not half an inch, or a quarter inch. Do you not still get gypsum to test? How did the optimum hole magically land on such a nice round number as 1?

 

Beware of home inspectors like these. They are not chemists, and as such don't have as good an understanding of what they are dealing with. Also, ask yourself, does this person have a service they are offering which benefits from what they are saying? If so, like in this case, then you have to take what they tell you with a large portion of salt.

Kane Faem
9:25am • #1

Hi Kane,

Well for starts, Welcome to MY  BLOG!  The magical 1" inch hole is a logical size due to the fact that this is an easy size hole to be made by a 1" core drill bit.  Sure, you could use a smaller size core sample, but the 1" size also makes it easier to insert a scope to view the wall cavity and possibly see any identifying manufacturing marks.

Sulphur is not the main culprit with the drywall, but apparently you are not aware of that. 

I have left you post so that others can see that the testing community is trying every trick in the book to legitimize their unfounded techniques and lack of knowledge in building design.  Beware of anyone that is touting drywall testing as the best way to tell if your home has problematic Chinese drywall in it.

11:31am • #2
JUN
01

The information is accurate and helpful.  It should also be noted that there are a number of scams showing up that promise a quick easy answer as to whether a home has Chinese drywall.  You can by a Chinese drywall testing kit that does not work, you can hire one of these "inspectors" who will charge several hundred dollars for tests tha will not answer the question or you can buy an Ozone generator to solve the problem.  Only thing is that the ozone reacts with the compounds and makes the problem even worse.

Sooner or later, someone will come up with a difinitive test that is economical but right now, it comes back to using your eyes and nose (with a little knowledge of what you are looking for).

Robert Sole

REM Inspections LLC

www.REMinspections.com

Robert Sole
12:28pm • #3

Hi Robert,

I really doubt we will ever see a test that will really tell us anything other than the home has it.  I would think that if a scanning device similar to a moisture meter could be devised then we would be on the right track.

Visual inspections can tell us a great deal if we are willing to open our eyes to what we are seeing!

3:16pm • #4
JUL
17

TRYING TO FIND OUT IF THIS PROBLEM IS CONFINED TO THE EAST COAST.. WONDER IF THERE HAVE BEEN ANY REPORTS TIED TO CALIFORNIA?

WE HAD A KITCHEN REMODEL DONE ABOUT A YEAR AGO INVOLVING NEW WALLS AND TWO SMALLER "PATCH" JOBS IN THE LAUNDRY AREA AND GARAGE.  CAN'T TELL WITH THE KITCHEN, BUT THE TAPED JOINTS IN THE LAUNDRY AND GARAGE HAVE STARTED PEELING BACK AND THE PAINT SEEMS TO HAVE BEGUN "BUBBLING".  NO SMELL OF SULPHUR THOUGH.

WOULD APPRECIATE ANY INFO/UPDATE.

THANK YOU.

GAIL - FREMONT, CALIF.
2:20am • #5

Hi Gail,

It sounds like a bad drywall job, bad paint or a water leak.  You might want to contact a local home inspector to come out and take a look.  As you are in CA, check www.creia.org or www.ashi.org to locate an inspector near you.

7:42am • #6
JUL
20

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SUGGESTIONS.  WILL LOOK INTO THE MATTER ASAP.

 

 

GAIL - FREMONT, CALIF.
2:38am • #7
AUG
10

after doing all your suggestions above it seemed like i might have chinese drywall although i didn't have any rotten egg fumes i then bought a test kit that i used that was only about $20. it is from www.chinesedrywalltestkit.com i took my test results to my builder and said it was a good first start and now he's paying for more testing on my house. it was easy enough for me to do by mysself i'm 67yr old woman thanks scott for this information the world needs more good guys like you.

Joanne
4:55pm • #8
AUG
12

i have been sick since i moved in my new home, severe fatigue, sinus infections, i had to have sinus surgery, headaces. its been terrible. i have been having to go to mich to help with my dad and ive noticed when im there i start feeling healthy again. then i go home and in a week im back in the bed. i really need to find out if my house is making me sick. do you know what i should do? thanks Bunny Ripley tenn

Bunny
7:22am • #9

Bunny, it could be many things. I have not seen this drywall in TN, but that does not mean it is not around. Give me a call, I might be able to point you in a direction that could help.

8:22pm • #10
SEP
30

Chinese drywall has been found in the Providense Place subdivisions in Mt. Juliet.  TN has actually been on the "proposed" maps to have Chinese drywall for a few months now.  Dane, Mt. Juliet, Tn

Dane
3:54pm • #11
OCT
15

Hi, I am thinking of renovating 2 rooms in my home. How can I tell if this item is being sold in Lowe's or Home Depot when I go to purchase it? Are there any markings I can look for? Colorations? Is there any drywall that is made in America? I know this may sound crazy but I think looking at all the defective products China has been sending us lately, now would be a great time to open factories here & go back to manufacturing our own products. That's why I only buy Corelle dishwear. It's made in the USA!

Pam W.
11:46am • #12

Hi Dane,  I have not seen or heard anything about Chinese drywall being found in TN at all. I have tried to findout more about it being discovered in Mt. Juliet but I can't find anyone that knows about it at the City Hall or connected with Providence Place.  Do you have any contact information you can share with me?  Give me a call 615-302-1113

1:20pm • #13

Hi Pam,

This drywall has not been sold since about mid 2007.  FYI, China is not alone with producing tainted drywall.  It is also been reported that some has been produced in Canada.

1:21pm • #14
OCT
17

Scott,

 

The person who told me about it works in the construction industry in that area.  Does that mean he is privy to the info?  I don't know.  The only reason the conversation came up is because I am currently monitoring some of the remediation process here in South Florida.  Dirty job, but somebody has to do it.

There has been some talk, not on this site, but verified by other sources that there are a couple of domestic drywall companies gypsum containing high amounts of sulfur as well. 

Working in these homes, the smells are usually what gives away as to what brand is in the home.  Knauf has an odor that is distiguishable above the others.  Taishan also has an odor that is distiguishable but it does not seem as offensive.

Everyone always mentions Knauf as the "face" of Chinese drywall.  That is because it is the one brand that is easliy identified.  During my observations I've seen drywall labeled Taihe, Taike, Pro Wall and one brand suspected Chinese but it only had clear tape on the ends and a production date. 

During the build boom, drywall was imported from not just China but from Mexico, Bolivia, Argentina, Germany and Brazil.

I was in one house that had 7 different brands in it; 2 types Chinese, 1 Argentinian, and 4 US brands.  I heard later that there were other homes in the vacinity that had the same situation as well.  Drywall was in short supply during 2006 so any decent size remnant was used at the next residense in order to try to maintain schedules. 

What a mess.

Dane
7:01pm • #15

I'm thinking about purchasing a large amount of drywall from someone on craigslist,  now im concerned that it may be this toxic drywall.  Is there any way I can tell from just looking at the new sheets?  Is it any paticular brand name?

John
7:16pm • #16

Ask them what the brand is.  USG, National Gypsum and LaFarge are common US brands.  Pro Rock is another.  From the info that I have been told, any commercial Chinese drywall available has been either confiscated or destroyed.

All US brands have "Made in America" printed on the drywall or on the end tape.  It's easy to identify.

9:41pm • #17
OCT
19

Y'all need to also keep in mind that some of the "US" and Canadian made brands have been implicated in some of the tainted drywall cases.  It is something new almost every day of the week.  I hope that the we will have some more information from the Consumer Products Safety, EPA and the CDC soon on this.

1:46pm • #18
OCT
22

Your correct Scott, from what we have found, so far the only US brands (only 1 that I know of) that have shown some to contain some mid to high sulfur content came from around the 2004 timeframe.

Any drywall on currently on the shelf should be safe to use.

Dane
7:28pm • #19
NOV
22

My home was built in 1988-89.  Would the Chinese drywall be in my home?

Sal
7:15pm • #20
NOV
23

With a home built in 1988-89 I would not worry about it unless you have had drywall replaced in the past 7 or so years.

9:11am • #21
NOV
24

We live in missouri and are preparing to have someone put up an interior wall in our house to divide a room to two rooms. How do we make sure that the builder is not going to use toxic drywall? This concerns us greatly as the wall will be making a bedroom where people will be sleeping in. Is there anything we should say or ask the builder before he comes out?

lonny
9:48am • #22

Unless the builder/contractor has been stockpiling old drywall, it should not be a problem.  I would ask the builder to make sure that they are using a quality drywall product that is made in the USA.

10:16am • #23
NOV
26

I would like any information or better yet links on US manfactures that may have produced tainted drywall....I see it mentioned a few times by Scott  "Y'all need to also keep in mind that some of the "US" and Canadian made brands have been implicated in some of the tainted drywall cases.  It is something new almost every day of the week"

If this is indeed true then looking for a Made in USA print on the actually drywall may not mean uour in the clear.....

Is there a speciic US manfuacture that has been implicated or more specfically any other chracterstics like only specific sizes etc?

Matt
9:44am • #24
NOV
27

Matt I wrote about the possibility of problematic drywall coming from other locations this past spring.

http://activerain.com/blogsview/1063410/looks-like-georgia-pacific-has-entered-the-drywall-problem-fiasco-

 

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