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I've never been a fan of Nancy Pelosi. She always appears to have a haughty sense of moral superiority that I find most unappealing and condescending.

I stopped respecting her in November 2006 when she declared that "impeachment was off the table" in respect of President George Bush.

We now find Pelosi embroiled in a debate into what she knew and when she knew it regarding torture - aka "enhanced interrogation techniques". She claims that the CIA misled her and other lawmakers about the use of waterboarding and other enhanced interogation techniques some seven years ago.

"Yes I am saying the CIA was misleading the Congress, and at the same time the (Bush) administration was misleading the Congress on weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, to which I said that this intelligence doesn't support the imminent threat," Pelosi said at her weekly news conference (5/14/09). "Every step of the way the administration was misleading the Congress and that is the issue and that's why we need a truth commission," she said.

According to a CNN report: The CIA-prepared memo, provided to CNN by Republican sources, lists 40 briefings for members of Congress from September 2002 to March 2009. The first briefing on the list -- on September 4, 2002 -- was for then-House Intelligence Committee Chairman Porter Goss and Pelosi, then the ranking Democrat on the committee. The subject of the briefing is listed as EITs, or enhanced interrogation techniques, "including use of EITs on Abu Zubaydah, background on authorities, and a description of the particular EITs that had been employed."

One can't help wondering if Pelosi said impeachment was off the table for Bush simply because she knew early on what he and his cronies was really up to ....!!!

Posted by Stewart Penn - Los Angeles Condo Specialist on 05/18/2009 07:15 AM

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38 Comments on Nancy Pelosi owes Americans the Truth

MAY

She may owe us the truth but doesn't every politician? I don't think that's the debate, it's whether or not we're going to get it and I already suspect I know the answer.

I thought her press conference was one of the funniest ones ever. A Deer in the headlights. Dont'cha think it's kinds dumb to be calling the worlds most dangerous covert group of spys--- liars...

Gene

Come on now... Jack Nicholson said it best... "You can't handle the truth!"

She's so clearly lying nobody can believe her. After a CIA briefing as early as 2002 (when she was the ranking Democrat on the House intelligence committee) in which the CIA clearly disclosed to her it was waterboarding some detainees, she even went so far as ask the CIA if it were doing enough. Which merely underlines what we knew all along--the Majority Leader of the U.S. House of Representative was really just a loud-mouthed posturing fraud all along.

Hi Stewart,

I must also agree, her superior attitude is just the beginning of the problem...Have a great weekend!

Michael

I think we have the reason why they werent so speedy on trying Bush and Company for the torture since it would mean she goes on trial as well. She very well might have been faced with approving this no matter what since it meant losing an election if she said no. I guess what is most shameful is no one forced Bush out to begin with. I think we the people are to blame here for not putting enough pressure on that administration. Too many people were complacent when we knew what was going on. We were told way way back. Very few people said anything.

I say innocent until proven guilty however, she has handled her multiple "explanations" very poorly. Lets see the briefing notes and let the chips fall where they may.

Hmm, you don't actually think someone in the CIA would mislead anyone right? That would be shocking, just shocking I say!

NOT!

I'm a big supporter of the Democrats .... but I think Pelosi has let down the team in an extremely serious way, and now she needs to go ..../ bye bye - next?

Pelosi is an embarrassment to the country and should step down and save us all the headache of the road she is taking us down.

Stewart, I agree Pelosi has let down the Democrats. But, I'd like to err on the side of caution here and wait and see. Just could be there is a reason for the various stories, something like classified information or whatever. It makes no sense that she continues to lie about something that to us seems so transparent.

Terry, unfortunately with Pelosi I think the only explanation can be that her skin has been pulled too tight around her brain. I agree with Bob...what an embarrassment.

MAY

This is funny. If you allow yourself not to like someone on the democratic side, you have to somehow tie it to Bush.

Of course, there is a key difference between them.

Bush did a lot but could not sell himself and what he was doing... or did not bother to sell. His mistake.

Obama is a genius seller. The problem is with the rest of it.

I know that this can irritate people. Sorry. Just one reminder. Bush is not in the White House. So, why not stop hating Bush and start loving Obama? How long everything that is going on wrong will still be Bush? Until the next election?

"Impeachment was off the table" says it all! There's no question, Pelosi should at least step down from Speaker of the House.

Jon - The issue is "accountability".

Bush still needs to be held accountable for his illegal conduct and contempt for the Constitution during his terms as President.

Stewart, I'm not a fan of Pelosi either. I could care less if she steps down. Having said that, I saw an interview with former Senator Bob Graham. He said he was never briefed on waterboarding. He said the first time he asked the CIA when he was briefed on torture, it claimed it had briefed him on two dates when no briefing took place. He keeps a log of his meetings. After Graham pointed this out to the CIA, they conceded their own dates were incorrect.

Jon, you have to somehow tie it to Bush. Bush did a lot but could not sell himself and what he was doing... or did not bother to sell. His mistake.

Of course it is tied to Bush. It happeneded during his administration. An administration that has clearly lied about the war, WMD etc. He sold us a war based on lies. He made America less safe than we were before 9/11. Bush might not be in the white house but we will be feeling his mistake for many many years. Cheney is not in office but he is giving interviews everyday defending his lies. Why?

Interview with Grahman

Excellent point Mitch - Cheney is another one who needs to be held accountable. I think he's the very worst of them all!

Stewart, Cheney interview:

SCHIEFFER: How much did President Bush know specifically about the methods that were being used? We know that you-- and you have said-- that you approved this...

CHENEY: Right.

SCHIEFFER: ... somewhere down the line. Did President Bush know everything you knew?

CHENEY: I certainly, yes, have every reason to believe he knew -- he knew a great deal about the program. He basically authorized it. I mean, this was a presidential-level decision. And the decision went to the president. He signed off on it.

What does it mean when a President "basically authorizes" torture? And what's the difference between a "presidential-level decision" and a "presidential decision"?

She is the poster child for term limits in Congress. Apparently she thinks she can simply say anything including calling the CIA a bunch of liars and simply get away with it because of her powerful position. She needs to be sent packing.

Nancy is in a world of trouble right now and she got here by playing politics with national security, something you just don't do. I have never been a fan of "commissions" but I hope to see one on this.

who cares what the difference is... torture away and get the info you need to protect us. In fact, don't even tell us about it... How can you be safe if you will be judged by your own media and not allowed to do what you need to do. Our methods are nothing compared to what other countries do.

"...... torture away and get the info you need to protect us" - Choice Real Estate.net

What a ridiculous and irresponsible statement. That's the same logic that Bush and his cronies used. How can anyone respect our country as the "leader of the free world" with kind of irrational logic.

Doesn't America aspire and adhere to a higher standard than that?

When you are dealing with people that are trying to KILL you and your country you use any means necessary. You stick to your 'higher standards'... All i want is my country and family to be safe. These people would have no problem decapitating you, raping your wife and children, and you want to give them rights?

Your logic is exactly why these terrorists arent afraid of us. Id rather have the terrorists think twice about messing with us, then worry what other countries might think.

Choice Real Estate.net - You argument is that of a "wild cowboy".

Do you have any regard for consequential thinking?

Do you not realize that torturing our enemies will result in them doing the same, and then worse to our soldiers in harms way?

Unfortunately your simple thinking is what's made the world less safe than after 9/11.

thanks for the psycho analysis Stew
actually we are much safer after 911

yippie kai yay

Bush mismanaged and miscalculated the war so grotesquely that it clearly made the US less safe, empowered Iran, gave al Qaeda a new lease on life, opened the borders of Iraq to al Qaeda, permitted the ransacking and looting of much of Iraq, and led to tens of thousands of deaths of innocent civilians. We would have been better off had we never invaded. The worst mistake any President has ever made in my lifetime.

"Do you not realize that torturing our enemies will result in them doing the same, and then worse to our soldiers in harms way?"
P.S. Stew
Did you not see the American who was decapitated? These animals have no conscience or regard for your 'rules' of war and engagement. Torturing the terrorists (again, i'm referring to terrorists) won't RESULT in them doing the same... They were ALREADY doing much much worse to us.
The "same"?? We could only be so fortunate if all they did was the same. I bet Nick Berg wished he could have received the "same" treatment.

Stewart, Choice Real Estate is cracking me up. Its like what the previous president shoved down our throats, we have to get them before they get us, even though there wasnt any evidence anyone was going to "get us" we still had to "get them." Perfect logic. I wonder if Choice thinks crushing the testicles of the children of "suspects" is appropriate? I wonder if Choice would approve of that being done to his/her children? I wonder why Choice hides behind their business name?

MAY

Pelosi, as well as others in DC, have an arrogance and attirude of superiority (same thing I guess).... and will therefore never come clean!

I'll be upfront here - I'm a Regan style conservative republican. Governement is not the solution government is the problem. I've never seen a more self serving bunch of idiots in Washington. Nancy Pelosi pushes wind power because she invested $250,000 in the technology. Obviously climate change is all about making money for those who are insiders - a very convenient truth. It's a good thing I've done what I needed to do to take care of myself in the future because I don't think there's going to be any social security or medicare to help out. Everyone needs to get off the idea that the governement will help them out of every problem. NO ONE is too big to fail. Let the market dictate who wins and who loses.

Hi Stewart, Good post. Thanks for sharing.

Best - Sash

She owes America her resignation along some other people in Washington.

TERRY, I don't hide. My name is BJ MATSON. I live in Rockville Maryland. Call me directly at 301-881-8900 x102. I'll email you a picture if you'd like.
Terry, who is "THEM"? I'm not talking about "them".. I'm talking about known terrorists. Terry i could see your point IF we were holding soldiers of a country. I am speaking of terrorists. Terrorists who dont follow any rules. Osama and his boys arent afraid because of patsies who judge our military who are out there protecting YOUR freedoms. That's why it's better they didn't even tell us what they do to the terrorists. Just do it.

Terry, what does any of this have to do with you asking me if i'd like it done to my children? You feel bad for the parents of terrorists or something? Maybe there's a support group out there for you.. "U.S. Sympathizing Mothers Worried for Families who've Lost a Loved Terrorist"

WOW! i just read all the comments on this post. Ok, Bottom Line....She Knew. She Lied. Let's all move on. There are much bigger problems facing this country right now than catching Another political figure in a lie. It seems that when we did not know of the "torture" we didn't care much about it. Who thought about Guantonamo Bay very often BEFORE President Obama made an issue of it?

I am more concerned right now with the 800 Chrysler Dealerships closing and the increase in un-employment. Food Stamp benefits and unemployment insurance claims are at a high. Future job loss is inevitable (Pelosi being one of them :-) ) It's a horrible thing but Nancy wasn't actually doing the water-boarding....she just lied about knowing what was going on. They ALL did.

MICHAEL, great points.. and why I think some things are better left unknown to the judging public.

Choice Real Estate - so you really believe that "ignorance is bliss"?

maybe not bliss, but needed

MAY

Did you see where the CIA then said that they don't have confidence in their own memos? How funny is that? "Uh, this is what our memo says, but we don't really know if the memo is correct...." Maybe they fired the guy for telling lies -- LOL Who knows what went on in the highest level of government under the Bush Administration. Quite frankly, I'm not sure I want to know, because if I know, then our enemies will know, and I think our government was up to no good from 2001-2009.

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