I noticed something recently after blogging quite a bit this week. I guess I noticed this before but it became more pronounced in light of all the featured posts about “what is wrong with Active Rain” But maybe it’s as simple as leaving a comment? Call it comment courtesy if you will but leaving a simple comment might make it worthwhile to the person making the blog post. If you want I can post some statistics, graphs, charts, figures, numbers or whatever you want if it illustrates this point better but the gist of it is that for the number of posts I make (and I am sure this goes for everyone on the network for the most part) there are few relative comments when compared to the number of people that click on the post (and I assume read it)

For instance most of my posts usually get at least 100 clicks. Some get around 2-300 clicks. I don’t know if that is a lot or that’s typical but on those same posts I usually get about 2-3 comments. Now I appreciate the comments that I do get but think about this for a moment, several hundred people might have read what I wrote but only a few people bothered to tell me they appreciate the work involved in writing it. Now I understand some posts naturally attract a lot of comments but perhaps it might be a courtesy to at least leave a note thanking the person for writing the post. In the least they gave you information for free. Even if it’s only linking to another article how much work would it be to drop a comment?

Another example to illustrate how skewed the commenting is on the network was yesterdays featured posts. One post had almost 50 comments by noon. Yet a post right below that only had 3 comments. Yet the 3 comment post was posted first. Yet both were featured. Then by night this same post still only had a handful of comments left and yet I guarantee 500 if not more read that post. Even today it only had just over 10 comments. If you look at the number of comments on any given day it is horribly skewed in favor of featured posts. Sure these get the most attention and probably seen the most so that would naturally skew the number of comments in their favor but if you look at the number of people on the network at any given time obviously people are out and about reading other posts but they don’t bother to leave a comment.

It’s strange to me that a featured post will get upwards of 50-100 comments with around 500 clicks on it while a normal unfeatured post will get 2-300 clicks and only 0-3 comments. That means a ratio of 5-10% for a featured post reader vs. commenter while an unfeatured post gets a much smaller ratio of 0-1%! I realize these are loose numbers but its pretty close relatively speaking.

So what can you do about it? I guess that’s the premise of this post. If you found a post interesting just write a note that says thanks for posting this. It’s not that hard. Maybe a lot of people click on a post but then find it not interesting (a high bounce rate perhaps?) but I have a feeling a lot of people just don’t bother to leave a comment unless the post is featured and I don’t know why. Does it make your comment featured and read by all? I guess I don’t see the point in that. I actually find I comment much less on a featured posts. I would say my own commenting is completely skewed the other way and if your post is featured you probably won’t get my comment. Strange huh?

What do you think?

Comment Courtesy or am I just crazy?

Or is this post too long and I bored you? J

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24 Comments on Maybe What Active Rain Needs is for People to Leave Comments? Is it Comment Courtesy?

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208,497 Points 7 Featured Posts Outside Blog

One thing I wanted to note is that I think for the most part the "problem" with active rain is engagement. Commenting more on other peoples blogs engages both people and would definitely go a long way towards encouraging new people to blog more often. I know everyone feels a sense of accomplishment after reading comments saying how people enjoyed what you wrote. I know I jump when my inbox fills with comments after I post something. In fact I often hit f9 over and over seeing if new people comment.

10:47am • #1

Shane - I read your post and though your analysis is accurate the bottom line is. It is what it is.  Good luck with your future posts and hang in there.

10:49am • #2
133,128 Points 2 Featured Posts

Shane - I appreciate this post... And thanks for your comment on my post as well. It can be strange how the featured posts get the most comments. I personally don't always comment on all the featured posts and look into the latest postings by just about anyone including newbies. Just my two cents...

10:52am • #3
208,497 Points 7 Featured Posts Outside Blog

Oh Im fine. A lot of people comment on what I write. I just thought it might be a different way of looking at things. I know first time bloggers are skittish and having some encouragement would go a long way.

10:54am • #4
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Shane, Also worth noting that some posts are pretty much " stand alone " in that they don't require a comment or different point of view.  Some writers are better at engaging readers by tossing in some red meat !

10:56am • #5
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Thats true as well. I know some create a battle as well. I guess I just wonder how hard it is to drop a comment here and there.
11:00am • #6

I comment if I want to. It is up the the writer to make me want to :-)

11:07am • #7
208,497 Points 7 Featured Posts Outside Blog

Lol Ron - HAHA Made you comment!

I dont know if that works or not :)

11:09am • #8
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Shane, what a GREAT post! I feel much the same way. If I read it, I comment. I feel it is the best way to help each other, which is, partially, what AR is all about isn't it? Thank you for bringing it to our attention!

11:39am • #9
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But this is the free market system at work. Those who have worked hard at being engaging, and have earned a following, will get more comments. those who leave more engaging comments, on other's posts will get a following... and will get more comments. If you get clicks buy no comments, think about what you can do to seek more interaction. Maybe ask an engaging question... that people are opinionated about. This all takes work. However the freedom of posts to work and garner comments is one of the cool things about AR. It's one giant Free focus group. You find out what works.
12:56pm • #10
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Oh I understand your point Sally and I was trying to say that above. But I guess the point is that the posts are engaging enough for people to click and read but people arent leaving comments. I guess it would be nice if they like what the author said to leave a simple thanks. I dont do it always either. Often I click and find the rest uninteresting. I dont know a solution and I dont think I would have time to leave a comment on each post I read. Its just strange how some get comments and some dont.
1:01pm • #11
242,387 Points Outside Blog

It is a courtesy to leave a response.    Sometimes, though, in the rush to see what our compatriots in the biz are thinking, we don't always have time to comment, although we may plan to return, and do it later.    This is the passive side of this style of communication.    The consumer of our information doesn't "have to" respond.   

1:11pm • #12
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Shane, there never seems to be any consistency in the number of clicks I receive. I've tried to make sense of it, but can't.  I've wondered if it's time of day, but I've never researched the possibility. I do try to comment on posts when I think I have something to share.

3:50pm • #13
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Shane,

  1. Experience has also taught me that it is sometime better not to leave a comment. We need a banner that states "Although I've requested comments, please only leave one if you totally agree with the post."
  2. Sometimes I don't even read all the way through. I'm outa here..
  3. If other comments have expressed what I might, I might just pass. 
4:41pm • #14
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Hi Shane ~ I read waaaay more posts than I leave comments.  I just don't have something to add or to say about everything I read.  Sometimes I'll even start a comment and then realize I can't articulate my thoughts coherently and delete my ramblings.

I tend to go against the crowd - if a post already has a slew of comments I'm usually less likely to chime in.  And I'm more tempted to comment if something catches my interest and has few or no comments.

I think we're spoiled here.  I was looking around tonight at real estate blogs (not AR blogs) and most get very few if any comments - and that includes my own.  I love the dialog here.

Liz

12:27am • #15
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For me, I sometimes do not have anything to add. Sometimes I wrack my brains for some posts because they do not have many comments, but it's because there was nothing to comment about.

I agree with Elizabeth, we are spoiled here. Also, worth mentioning, not all those clicks are from Active Rain!!! And the general public does not comment all that much around here.

 

2:39pm • #16
I think we all get alot of clicks and alot less comments! I always try to leave a comment, there have been some occasions that I don't simply because I didn't like the post and didn't want to write a negative comment! It is rare for me to not leave a comment!
10:24pm • #17
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557,896 Points 10 Featured Posts Outside Blog

There's not enough time in the day for me to comment on everything I read.

Comments in one's blog used to be worth quite a few points, but that apparently changed May 1. The algorithm they are using is really weird and might take me a little longer to figure out.

Comments, though, aren't all they once were cracked up to be. Perhaps that's an effort to get people to leave comments only when relevant and spend more time reading all the great information here.

Even one's own comments in one's own blog are not worth as many points as they were pre-May 1. They have done a really good job at slowing down the points explosion that was going on. Maybe someone hitting one million points was going to create a Y2K type of problem -- LOL.

The other thing about commenting in Featured posts is that I think a lot of people -- more than might be apparent -- know that having one's name connected with that Featured post that now sits on the ActiveRain home page with links to one's own blog in it can be pretty valuable when it comes to the bots.

Anyway, I do enjoy the new system more because I don't feel compelled to leave a superfluous comment for the sake of points.

For the record, what I have been able to determine is that it doesn't see to matter how many people comment in my blog post, each of those comments seems to be worth 0-6 points for me. Previously I know that comments in some blog posts were worth up to 75 points, and 25 points for comments in a Featured post were not uncommon. That's 25 points for the owner of the Featured post; of course, the person leaving the comment always got 25 points.

When it comes to commenting in one's own blog, those used to be worth about half of what someone elses comments were worth. Now it seems that only my first comment in my own blog gets any points, unless my comment is lengthy, and then that comment seems to be worth 6 points or so. I have not been able to determine how long my comment has to be in order to get points. I think this might be an attempt to get people to quit commenting to absolutely everyone who comments in the blog, which I was doing in order to keep up with the competition who were doing it. Tit for tat.

I look forward to understanding the new system and making it work for me and those who read my blogs. Meanwhile, know that those who click to read your posts won't always take the time to leave a comment. That's why the statistics page, as well as number of associates and number of blog subscribers, can be so valuable. I think they are making an attempt to encourage good activity in many different areas rather than superfluous activity in the commenting area.

4:33am • #18
557,896 Points 10 Featured Posts Outside Blog

I'm back.

As an example to follow up on my previous comment (#18), this blog post of mine

http://activerain.com/blogsview/1087873/be-proactive-with-your-homeowners-association

had four comments and 245 points associated with it.

Knowing that me leaving four comments, one addressed to each commenter, doesn't count for as many points anymore, I just made one comment addressed to all four. When I posted my comment, I got four points.

Interestingly, and this I had not determined, points for comments in one's own blog don't seem to show up in the overall points score for that blog anymore. My score prior to my commenting was 245 points, after commenting it was still 245 points, yet I had another 4 points for my own comment that I left.

Interesting.

As I said previously, now I don't feel compelled to answer every single comment in my post. If someone says, "Nice post," I don't feel compelled to leave a superfluous "Thanks" because I can guarantee you that someone leaving a "Nice post" comment is not going to be coming back to that exact same blog to see if you thanked them for saying "Nice post."

We do have to be Realists here. I have work to do that actually pays me today, whereas Playing in the Rain is a long-term part of my business and marketing plan. There are only so many hours in a day, and you, kind sir, have eaten up half an hour of mine! LOL

Nonetheless, as someone famous said, "I'll be back." Just don't know when right now.

4:48am • #19
362,600 Points 4 Featured Posts Outside Blog

I'm baaaaaaaaaack!

In this blog post of mine:

http://activerain.com/blogs/russelray/view/1087927

I decided to test the theory of leaving one huge comment with paragraphs for everyone. Normally, under the new system, posting an individual comment to everyone would have garnered only four points.

By making one huge comment acknowledging everyone, I got ten points.

6:00am • #20
557,896 Points 10 Featured Posts Outside Blog

When they first started doing re-blogging, both the originator of the post and the re-blogger would get 25 points. Then they did away with that. It's back.

Also, I never got any points for anyone commenting on a re-blogged post. I just got 4 points for someone commenting on a post that I reblogged.

She left a long comment on the reblog, and so I replied. I got 4 points for my reply comment.

7:12am • #21
362,600 Points 4 Featured Posts Outside Blog

After doing some serious editing to my post yesterday and then posting a blog entry at 7:03 this morning, when I logged back in at 10:00, I had lost 367 points.

I made one long comment to commenters in this blog entry and got six points.

12:19pm • #22
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Hi, Shane,

Dropping in a comment!  I liked the post and it poses an intereting question.  Since I am just getting started on all of this, the point system is a mystery.  Russel's list of how the point system works was most helpful.  I like your disclaimer!

2:18pm • #23
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Shane - I value what people have to share and try to comment on most of the posts I read.  Reciprocating when people take time to read something I posted seems only right.  It takes a while, but I get to them all eventually.  There have been many times though when a post has 75 + comments that I think "what could I possibly contribute to this?" and won't leave a comment!  Thanks for this thought provoking post!

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