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The Guidelines:  " Topless meetings must be announced when the meeting is scheduled, not directly before or during so that people can plan to be topless.  The meetings shouldn't be more than an hour long, unless there are scheduled breaks.  If You can't be 'topless' you shouldn't be in the meeting. "

O.k.  now that I have your attention...:) 

I'm talking about "topless" (as in laptopless) meetings.  This idea is getting so much coverage of late I thought I'd touch on the subject. Note that this banning of laptops can and should spread to other attention-sucking devices. I'm looking at you, Blackberry. You too, iPhone.

 

                                     

I'm as guilty as anyone of getting sucked into my Blackberry e-mail - but unless i'm expecting an 'emergency' type email I try not to bring it into meetings with me.  The divided attention (and the lowered discussion) really lowers the energy and productivity of any meeting.  Not to mention its distracting not only to the speaker - but to your fellow attendees.

And if you are one of those people who think all meetings are a waste of time, I say: nonsense.  I agree some are - and they can be a Brain Drain...But meetings are not just about communication, though they are often treated as one-to-many information distribution sessions.  They are valuable so long as everyone is there to contribute and pay attention. People dread meetings because they are often not focused and drag on for longer than necessary-which is what happens when people don't contribute or pay attention. 

What about when people show up late?..........If someone is ten minutes late and delays the start of a meeting with six other people, they have wasted an hour of time (10 minutes x 6 people = 1 hour).  Everyone can be late sometime time.......but some people are consistently late - almost all the time.  So what do you do?

Meetings can enhance productivity when people use them to do the kind of work that is best done in collaboration with others. Good meetings are about getting somewhere: a decision, a new idea, etc. Working through ideas often means making those ideas tangible.  There's a synergy that can take place well people have a common goal and can direct their energies to a positive outcome.

Or do you think meetings are archaic?  Should information be shared through emails instead?  What do you think? :-)

 

                                             Savor your Blackberries for After the Meeting :-)

 

                                              

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    42 Comments on What do You Think About Topless Meetings?

    MAY
    30
    2009
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    Yes, the title is an attention getter.

    I agree we need to leave the distractions out of the meeting room.  It's called being considerate.

    I prefer to attend meetings, that way if I need something clarified I can get it on the spot.

    2:02pm • #1

    I am an extreme extrovert.  I get my energy, ideas, creativity by working directly with others.  I love nothing more than a good brainstorming session.  Ideas bounce off the walls like racquetballs during a doubles tournament.  It is exciting and energizing and life-affirming.  That is a good meeting.  Now, I will admit I have participated in more than my share of draining, boring, dead-end meetings as well.  But if I have to put up with some of those to get one of the others, it is worth it to me.  The results are not the same when everything is done via cyberspace.  The delays of typing and reading and waiting for others log into the conversation, even if it's done in real time, are not condusive to the racquetball effect.  So meeting planners and leaders, keep the meetings punctual, lean and to the point.  Attendees, go in prepared to give your full attention to those around you, not those miles or a world away, and I'll keep showing up.

    2:15pm • #2
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    Very funny! I saw a guy today @ a sandwich restaurant on the patio, topless!  THat's of course what I thought of when I saw this. 

    2:36pm • #3
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    Topless meetings Liz? How did you know I was at the gentleman's club after hours?? LOL. Seriously, I have the Blackberry and iPhone and discreetly multitask with them at real meetings. Too many real meetings have a pace too slow, or are too long. I try to selectively go to meetings. They can be good but most are not (at least to me). The biggest wasters at meetings are no agenda, no time limit, or you could be doing something so much better with your time. I am a combined extrovert-introvert. Meetings have to hold my attention and I participate in them or I have better things to do.

    2:57pm • #4
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    OK you got my attention.  The pictures could have been better.  Three of them is more than I am used to seeing :) 

     

    With all the electronic toys I want my kids to do things topless too.  Maybe topless in the car on vacation.

    3:06pm • #5
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    Gene   - ha ha ha - lol.......

    Gary - now how did i know that about you? :-)  Although.......well I won't although it :-)

    Kristen - well today its abou 90 here - I image there are a few of those out and about here today too :-)

    3:10pm • #6
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    Liz - You are the winner of the "Headline of the Day" award!  I usually try not to use my iPhone or laptop during meetings, possibly because I am usually the one conducting them.  :)

    3:23pm • #7
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    Liz- Love the title.  My daughter just got told no phones period at work.  Leave your phone in your car or get fired.  So she runs out and checks on her black berry at her 15 minute break morning and afternoon and at lunch break.

    3:33pm • #8
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    Hi Liz!
    I am a meeting "disliker"...but I have a caveat.   I dislike meetings when one person continually interrupts it because she "doesn't understand"...no matter how many times it is explained. She should wait and ask after the meeting, since she is the only one who doesn't get it.  I dislike meetings when someone just likes the sound of their own voice, so repeatedly says the same thing to be sure we understand.  I dislike meetings when someone asks a question of a speaker that is so far off topic that it is embarrassing to everyone attending.  I dislike meetings when someone thinks we aren't bright enough to understand an issue so we can ask the question, so they ask for us. I'm sorry to go on, but this is a real pet peeve issue for me.  On the other hand, a meeting run well and succinctly, I am all over!

    5:03pm • #9
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    Liz, I think that people at meetings or in classes that text or fiddle with their laptops are robbing themselves and others in the room.  They are not seeing themselves as essential contributors (as well as learners) to what is going on---therefore it diminishes everyones participation.

    6:23pm • #10
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    Oh Liz,

    What a juicy topic.  And for so many reasons.

    1. I'm on a diet since getting back from Cuba and I am salivating at the berries and ice cream.

    2. Our Board of Directors have  started taking Blackberry breaks every 45 minutes during meetings to keep everone engaged at the table.

    3. Like Dianne above, I love a good brainstorming session.  We talked a bit about this in your last blog post.

    4.I understand how Paula above can be a "disliker".  It's important for the chair to take control and know how to guide the meeting and the participants. Housekeeping rules and orientations can be very beneficial.

    5. People who come late and leave early (consistently) are rude and disruptive.  If you make a commitment, keep it.

    6. There will always be some negative Nellies but it's important for all to leave a meeting on the same page.  If a decision is made through a vote all must abide and live with it.  Sometimes we all have to suck up stuff we don't agree with.

    Liz, this is a great post and I flagged it for a feature. 

    Enjoy the rest of the weekend.

     

     

     

    6:36pm • #11
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    Hahahahah ! I love this post Liz !

    .... but I dont know if I could do it right now !!!

    I'm totally addicted to my 'Crackberry' and I think I'd start twitchin' if I could glance at it for a 2 hour mtg !!

    ... I know it's pretty sad !!

    LOL...how are you !! Hope all is going well !

    Cheers !

    Sheldon

    9:38pm • #12
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    Sheldon - twittter/berry breaks every 45min hows that ?  would that make it blackbearable  ? :-)

    Jenny thanks for taking the time to respond so thoroughly - love it! ;-)

    9:56pm • #13
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    Angelia - what a pretty name ;-)  yes there is something about face to face synergy - like you said answering questions on the go And....for me i do look at it as being considerate and respectful - but i get for others it doesn't mean anything personal other then they feel they need to do what they need to do? :p)

    Diane - I love your racquetball analogy - I often think it terms of a Bingo cage - so I get what you mean! :-)

    9:59pm • #14
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    Jason - you sucked me in! lol for a second I thought there was such an award - and just briefly I felt special! ;-)

    Tammy - so did my daughter!  interesting eh ?

    10:00pm • #15
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    HAHAHA ! .... YES INDEED !!! ..ABSOLUTELY 100% I COULD HANDLE THAT !!!! rofl !!!!! ( ..I think ?!?!?! lol)

    10:01pm • #16
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    Paula - and I agree with you!  I often think that when I pray for patience........thats exactly what God gives me - an opportunity how to learn to be patient - by being in THOSE meetings!

    Charles - I think of those Landmark seminars - and how fast we'd have our rear end out the door during the Forum if we arrived late! :-)

    10:03pm • #18
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    Sheldon - an addictive personality !  i knew there was a reason i loved you! ;-)

    10:08pm • #19
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    Hmmm topless....does a breast job come with that...giggles....

    I hate when people are on their phones, laptops etc in meetings. I have to fo all I can not to rip it out of their hands. I was taught to be in the present. That is not.

    10:18pm • #20
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    Hi Liz ~ I definitely would prefer a ban on laptops in meetings. I find them distracting and rude.  Typically nothing on that laptop has anything to do with the business at hand.  Don't like the meeting? Don't attend.  Topless meetings is a trend that has my full support.

    Liz

    10:31pm • #22
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    Interesting thoughts Liz.  On the one hand, when I'm in meetings which have copious notes, I like a laptop, but it can be very distracting to be meeting with people who are constantly looking down at their gadgetry.  Good discussion here.  Thanks for sharing this post with your Friends on Fraiche Aire.

    10:46pm • #23
    MAY
    31
    2009
    429,369 Points 57 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog Called Shot Master

    I'm with Jason- great headline!  I think, you see greater dependency on gadgets in the near future particularly because of their use in grade schools and college.  Technology has its benefits, but the most important skill is not how fast you can type with your thumbs it is your ability to listen and focus on the speaker!

    Good topic!

    6:33am • #24
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    Hmmm, just had breakfast and that Sundae made me hungry- what a powerful headline

    7:55am • #25
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    Janice - blackberries are one of my fav - i just had some frozen ones on my omelet..:-)

    Nannette - yep have to say that would be my tendency too! :-)

    Lola - its great for note taking I agree.....and there is a different perspective -if you're leading the meeting or sitting in on one -thats for sure!

    Liz - I guess thats true isn't it?  if you don't want to be in the meeting don't come......make sense..:-) 

    11:29am • #26
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    We hold office meetings once a week, and I always set my BB to mute. But when I feel it vibrate, I can discreetly read my email. If it's important, I reply. I hate to say this, but there are boring parts in meetings, and I take full advantage of them. I love to multitask. But phones buzzing and ringing can be distracting to others, so I never do that. If I'm talking, of course, I turn off my cell. Or if I'm listening to an engaging speaker. But idle chitchat lets me get work done when I pay half attention to what's going on.

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    12:10pm • #27
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    Liz -- I am a big believer in not having meetings just for the sake of having a meeting --- to me, meetings must have a purpose, must be kept to the point and to the time frame announced.  Also, I agree, meetings must be interactive. Thanks for bringing up the subject.

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    1:07pm • #28
    JUN
    01
    2009
    227,064 Points 25 Featured Posts

    Liz - I strongly believe that meetings can and should start on time and end on time.  I have been known to carry this point to the extreme.  Before one of our meetings, I announced that I would lock the door at the start of the meeting and did so.  What I have found is that agents who are late for sales meetings are also the agents who are late for showing appointments and customer meetings and who tend to open the displays late.  We are all busy and have a myriad of things to do.  However, it is unfair to those who show up on time and have to wait for someone to show up.  Or worse, it is disruptive to the speaker and meeting attendees to have to repeat items for those who come late - so I don't. 

    10:48pm • #29
    JUN
    02
    2009
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    Hi Liz,

    Great title!  I set my Crackberry to mute during meetings, but I do leave it on tabletop esp. if there's something important brewing with a deal. I only take a call/check an email if that's what it's about.

     

    Other than that, I try to be good about it....although my kids do say they are going to need to stage an intervention.

    Have a great day!

    5:26am • #30
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    Many of my professors did not allow laptops in the lecture hall. I respected that. I was sick of seeing people browsing Facebook and chatting with their friends while I was trying to learn about Beyond Good and Evil.

     

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    5:05pm • #31
    JUN
    03
    2009
    246,312 Points 1 Featured Post Outside Blog

    Checking your top at the door is a bit extreme.  People should be discreet about checking email during meetings.  The more you check the worse the meeting will be.

    10:15pm • #32
    JUN
    04
    2009

    I like to have some thing to do if the meeting gets to boring some times you get people that go on and on and on about the same thing and still don't get it so ya I like to have my laptop.

    Liz

    2:50am • #33
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    The main problem with the electronic devices is they disrupt everyone else.  In all honesty I sit with a pencil and paper and make "to do list" or other practical things.  At worst I can always play "Buzz Word Bingo."

    2:38pm • #34
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    Liz!  Love the title, and yes it grabbed my attention.  I have to be honest though, I'm not sure I'd be able to stop looking at my blackberry.  No attention span here....especially if it's not an active meeting.

    2:50pm • #35
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    You got my attention for sure! People who are constantly "on" any electronic devices when they should be giving the courtesty of their attention to people they are with constitute one of my pet peeves these days. Whether texting, emailing, talking on cell phones, looking things up on a Blackberry, whatever--- it's rude to those you are with. Either don't attend the meetings, or pay attention to what's going on at the meeting...

    4:45pm • #36
    JUN
    06
    2009
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    Laura - yes i have to admit I find it annoying - yet the other day i was in an extraordinarily boring seminar - and I was sorely tempted! :-)

    Olga -love thehonesty - yep attention span and multi-tasking always a challenge ! :-)

    Gene -I suppose some people could find doodling disruptive but I know what you mean! :-)

    3:31pm • #37
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    Liz - its definitely easier to keep notes - and i guess it would be kind of weird if everyone all of a sudden walked out of meetings as soon as they got boring...........then on the other hand...........lol

    Robert - i have to agree - ifyou must try and be discreet about it :-)

    Ian - i believe the person moderating should be able to make their own rules - for different people it'll be different things :-)

    3:36pm • #38
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    Colleen - cute -an intervention :-)

    Ryan - wow my thoughts almost word for word - if there had been locks on our doors I believe i might have........there is definitely a benefit in being a Broker AND an owner..  I do agree that people late for meetings are usually late for just about everything........And its true - we're all busy so thats a poor excuse.......whether its meant to be disrespectful or not it is... to both the moderator and the other people in the room....

    3:40pm • #39
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    Elizabeth - and Liz -wow I've never been anywhere where there are so many elizabeth/liz's as here! ;-) Its certainly interesting to hear all the different perspectives!

    3:42pm • #40
    JUN
    09
    2009

    Liz,

    I don't know why people can't turn the damn things off for an hour; what did we do do before them?

    11:14pm • #41
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    Terry - you might have noticed its a pet peeve of mine - although to no avail....

    11:31pm • #42

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