I married into a family with 3 proud generations of General Motors execs.

Yep, GM was the "family business", and everyone was obsessed by cars. I didn't think I was, but still....

Was I first attracted to the man I would eventually marry because of all his wonderful qualities? Or the little red Corvette that he drove? 

Oh, but it was a glam job. He got new cars every 3 months to drive. I got a new car every year. Whatever I wanted.

I once got "detained" in Mississippi for driving a bright yellow Camaro, missing an important college final as a result.  

Could these guys give me a ticket for just being too damn flashy for that small town ? (ok, I might have been driving 5 miles over the limit, but why didn't they just write the ticket and let me go?)

GM threw lavish parties and awarded trips to Hawaii as perks. There were benefits to die for. Completely unheard of by today's standards. We used to call them Generous Motors.

But there was a dark side to life with GM. We were transferred to a different state every 18 months, which is nothing short of pure torture in my mind. Your life is always unfinished, your friends are always temporary.

That fact alone finally killed what had started as a very successful real estate career. I caved into my husband's ambition, but never to the corporate life. 

GM reeked of corporate politics. Hard to wrap your head around if you come from a real estate background where what you earn is determined exactly by what you produce. How many times have you driven your boss' wife to the airport because you wanted to get some brownie points? UGH.

The worst thing? The thing that caused him to quit? Ironically, something the government forced GM to do: Their "racial quota" was completely askew (in the 80's). They were a company of all white guys, and very few women or minorities (although my husband's GRANDMOTHER was employed at GM).

GM could only hire and promote minorities to fix this, and it became obvious it would take years to satisfy the quota. If you were a young ambitious white guy? You were going nowhere fast.

That, and this: Eventually, you had to move to Detroit. My apologies to everyone from Michigan.....I just did not want to move to Detroit (where hubby was born).

With the help of my father, my husband bought his own car company in California. We sold our house without a Realtor (had to! No longer had GM paying the commission!), picked up our lives, our 3 babies and 2 cats, and headed back to California.

Everyone thought we had lost our minds to give up so much.

Gave up the house on the hill with 6 white columns for the stucco rancher with only 3 apricot trees as landscaping. Suddenly had to pay our own benefits and drive used cars. Gone was the salary, the trips, the perks, and the lavish lifestyle that accompanies being a corporate executive.

Sold all of our GM stock to finance the new company and fix the rancher (at over fifty bucks a share).

Was it worth it? At times, we wondered.

Still, there is something very sad about the demise of what once was.

And never will be again.

 


Written by Janet Guilbault, Mortgage Banker/Broker based out of the San Francisco Bay Area

 

 

 
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49 Comments on The Dark Side of Being A Corporate Hack: How General Motors Killed My Real Estate Career

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I think corporate America is gone.  No pensions appear safe, no health insurance for retirees appears safe.  It is a scary America we are looking at.  I only wish there was true transparency with what all is going on right now in poltics, corporations, stock market, etc.

11:09am • #1
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Agreed, Heather. Corporate America as we knew it is dead. That is why I wanted to share my story about the way it was. We will never see that again, in my opinion.

11:10am • #2
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Janet - Interesting post!  Kind of reminds me of when I was newly divorced from hubby #1.  I used to have the same thoughts when I would look back on my previous married life and compared it to my then single life.  I gave up a similar lifestyle but in retrospect, what I got back was so worth it; I got back myself and a chance at a new life.

I've never regretted my decision.  If I hadn't divorced hubby #1, I would have never met and married hubby #2 who is the absolute love of my life.  I'm sure you have similar gifts to appreciate in giving up your old life for the life you have now.  Anyway, liked your post and you know I'm a big fan of your writing style.  :) 

11:14am • #3
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Hi Janet~ It's funny that the money and prestige isn't always as good as it seems.  I think as we grow older and wiser, we realize it isn't about the money.  You mentioned that you were a Realtor at one time. but you never mentioned anything about you switching over to being a Mortgage Banker/Broker.  It seems to suit you very well. 

11:20am • #4
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Thanks for sharing your story...puts a human side to the headlines.    Love that Corvette, though!

11:51am • #5
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Wow - very personal to you is everything that is going on. It sounds like in the end things turned out better. After a while of having "things" they get old and you need new things - I don't care for th elife of luxury. I'm not saying I'd reject it, but I don't desire it. And to me that is the best peace.

12:50pm • #6
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That story, GM corporate excess, not the Janet story could describe the profligacy of so many corporate entities. 

Even today, some of them have a hard time stopping what brought them to where they are.  Even the Union kept a luxury golf resort for members. 

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It is sad cause it didn't have to be this way. Did they not see the train wreck coming? How could the unions think this was a forever thing? It is beyond imagination. We are in a world economy and nothing we are doing here is going to change that. Adjust or die.

1:45pm • #8
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Hopefully corporate America will no longer be filled with the excess that we were accustomed to hearing about. We should all learn to be financially responsible.

1:53pm • #9
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Janet- I thought this was a Realestate Networking website, not an automotive pitty party?? JUST KIDDING!  Come on>.... 

Did he really have THAT car in the picture?? WOW.

Tell me, Ill bet you beat that ticket didnt you?? Woman..blonde..etc...  LOL

Only you can look back now and answer your own question really...>I think in the end, it is the quality of our lives that people ignore until it is too late, OR, something bad happens and we are forced to examine that inner happiness! 

I always take the approach of what can/or did I learn...Well, you chose to not move around anymore, and have all the goodies...for the sake of stability, and you also pursued the American Dream and poured all your savings into your own business....IN the end, when you are 90 yrs old, and sitting talking with your great grandkids, you will reflect on your time and realize that the choice you made was the right one!

interesting read....>Darin

1:57pm • #10
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Janet - I agree with what Lenn pointed out about the corporate excess.  While living the life of luxury may be hard to fight off, it certainly tends to get us in trouble.  Extremes are plain dangerous.

2:03pm • #11
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My Dad was a draftsman at GM and worked on the Corvette for many years.  My husband is currently employed by a GM supplier..for how long?  Probably another 2 weeks.

If your family stayed together then it was worth it in my opinion.

Many Metro Detroit families who were employed by GM (or Chrysler or Ford..take your pick) have had to separate to find jobs.  

Come back to Michigan for a week.  I'll take you around and show you how the demise of the middle class is affecting our area and the lives of human beings.

2:20pm • #12
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Janet,  you made it real to me.  I grew up on a farm and that too is gone.  Wait...I feel a blog coming on.

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Oh, Donne, thank you for that compliment. I am a big fan of yours too so please don't ever let anyone convince you to tone it down.

You are right that this post is about bold moves, lost opportunities, and what could have been.

For years we weighed what we had given up by watching the lives of my husband's former co-workers.

Now that GM has tanked, I can honestly say without reservation, I am glad that I am not someone about the retire from GM right as the go BK.

What a disaster.

2:36pm • #14
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Vicki: I had to put my 20 years in at the family car company before I was released for good behavior.

Naturally, I went back into real estate, but had learned financing by having the finance job at the car company. So I morphed into a mortgage person.

2:37pm • #15
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I remember having expense accounts and benefits paid... I left that behind many years ago and I guess I would have to say, whether nice or not, I love the freedom of what I do, ( even though I probably work more now than ever before). I would never change it.

2:41pm • #16
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Li: We had 3 corvettes. The last one didn't even get driven because a Corvette is not a place you want to be if you are pregnant. LOL

Steve: There are things that trump a somewhat lavish lifestyle, as we are all finding out in this economy. Having such an early start in real estate (and loving it) just made me a fish out of water in the corporate world.

There you are "the wife" who gives parties, tolerates ridiculous politics, and never complains when you are asked to move. I couldn't do it!!!! And yet that is how I grew up!

2:43pm • #17

Janet, I grew up and still live in a "GM  Town" in Defiance Ohio... GM ruled Defiance and the economy for several years, the # of employees began to dwindle making GM still a big presence in our town but not as much as in its "hay day" time frame. To boot I grew up became a Real Estate Agent with  GMAC, it was great business being part of the GM Family... but not any longer!!

Too many people/families are having there lives & financial world turned upside down, we have tons of foreclosures, sadly GM's mistakes has hit home in our small N.W. Ohio area... I wish GM employee's well. Karol

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Hi Janet,  What a terrific post.  I grew up in Michigan and understood that just about everyone was somehow dependent on the car business.  Michigan is a beautiful state but It will be awhile before I think of moving back there.

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Lenn: You are oh, so right about corporate excess. They were anything BUT lean and mean.

That is only part of what brought them down. Let's be honest: they had to go BK because they could never afford to pay for all the benefits that were promised to the retirees (who are now living to be in the 80's and 90's)

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Norma: you asked why they did not see it coming. My answer is this: they did see it coming but GM is such a huge bureaucracy that they can only move at a snail's pace.

Gov't regulations only make this worse!

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Janet...corporate concepts have been irreparably affected by numerous entities--not to mention a take-over from on high!  Your personal story is one- many of us who have lived the Automotive life- have heard or even lived in some way. It can be a difficult choice when one makes a family change choice.  The operative term is:  Makes. Too many are now Forced.  
 Both my Father &  my husband Sal have been automotive persons for all of my life.  Dad was in a 'related' business in his career as Electrical Engineer for Kelsey Hayes / Fruehauf Wheel co. Both now
gone into the nether-world of 'great things'     Sal was always a G.M.'er for his business life. When we met he was that bright, upward moving, handsome young Guy; he drove many a neat G.M. car; in fact our Brand is the "Hot Lava Cadillac  Sal is still bright & handsome, but no longer upward moving[ unless getting up from the chair or bed counts]. he was promoted high, but he / we were never in the Corporate Level.  G.M. was very good to us over the years & it will be a lie to state anything different.  Sal retired in 1997.
  Detroit & the Metro area has been decimated by the loss / take over of our Big 3 & the splinter / ripple effect is dramatic & sad.    I second Kris, come back if just for a visit; see the changes for yourself. That will more than likely reinforce your major decision  to change careers & move elsewhere--especially to a warm State. we too are planing on Naples, FL area in the next 2 years

2:57pm • #22
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Hi Janet, I loved this story. I'm sure GMs demise must be bitter sweet for you. It will be interesting to see how their bankruptcy plays out.

3:01pm • #23
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Darrell: They will now be forced to be financially responsible. But trying to make the transision should be very interesting. As Lenn said, look how hard it has been to give up all those perks.

Darin: Your comment is interesting because something happened that was the turning point for me in making the decision to give up the corporate life.

It was this: talking to other women who were 20 years older than me who had no careers, had moved a gazillion times, and were total GM stepford wives.

I still remember the exact moment I realized this: "I do not want to be like these women 20 years from now. I do not want my children to go to 20 different schools."

PS: I did not get out of that ticket!!! Do not mess with Mississippi!!!!! Note to self: use feminine charm if ever in this situation again. I was just aggrevated because I was so serious about taking that final!

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Janet...

GM's biggest mistake was not building cars that people wanted to drive. They depended on customer loyalty rather that customer satisfaction. Eventually, their every car looks the same mentality brought them down. Very sad indeed.

3:15pm • #25

Wow.... an insider tells all.  Very interesting perspective.

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Janet, thank you for sharing your story. I used to have a large corporate expenses account, travel on corporatejets, meetings and invitations to lavish parties.

.....as I left I had a hard time adjusting, but then I realized how much I had missed the real life of my kids and my family. I had a lot to make up.....

I have learned from that who are my real friends are..........

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Bettina: Its funny, but I had no adjustment at all except this: I could not get enough of being outside once I got back to California.

It felt like I had been trapped in airconditioning prison for 8 years and was finally let out. (You just really don't need air conditioning in the Bay Area and being outside is delightful almost every day)

Of course, my husband was the one who had to adjust. Suddenly he had to learn how to sell and to run his own business. Quite the learning curve.

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Richard: I am not sure that I agree with you. I think, like anything else, it was a combination of things that led to their demise. I definately think they produced too many cars, and promised too much to their retirees, and were too big to make the changes they needed to make to survive.

4:30pm • #29
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Bryant: It is bittersweet. I think my father in law must be rolling over in his grave, seriously!

 My husband still drives a Chevy truck after years of leasing all different kinds of cars. Like you can take the man out of GM, but you can't take the GM out of the man.

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Hi Janet, thanks for the insider information.  It just goes to show that nothing good lasts forever. 

4:35pm • #31
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Janet: Very interesting story.. Looks like over all you were on the right path. Thanks for sharing.

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Barb: Thank you for sharing your story. There is a kind of sadness in your comment that comes through loud and clear. That is exactly how I feel: very sad.

GM was also very good to us. I hope your retirement benefits are all intact!

I think there is a strange irony to this story as well...  No one ever left GM. They took care of you so well that you got entangled in their web where you could not leave. I could see that happening to us, and it scared me to death.

I was lucky that my father wanted me back in California VERY BADLY, and literally engineered a way for us to leave.

Good luck in Florida! I wish someone would write a post telling us exactly how Detroit has been impacted, and what they expect will happen in the future.

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Marian: Please do blog about losing the family farm. We are all suffering losses these days, and I would love to read your story.

Kris: I would like you to write a post about the situation in Michigan. I think all of us would like to hear the story about the executive that dedicated his whole life to GM, then got the shaft.

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Janet -- thank you for your personal thoughts and stories.  This all reminded me of what happened this winter.  We had very severe snow for two weeks.  Rather odd for Portland, Oregon -- where it typically is a mild winter.  The snow lasted, but sadly, when the spring came, I noticed some of my beloved plants did not make it.  A lovely pink, mini rose bush that gave sweet flowers most of the summer was gone.  Some rose bushes in the backyard are now striving to bloom.  Azaleas didn't make it.  And yet, some of the other plants had to be pruned back because of their thriving.  The maple tree dispersed a ton of seed pods this year. 

Yes, there are some 'plants' that don't survive, but others will crop up.  I'm very positive and optimistic about alternative/renewal energy (solar panels, wind turbines, etc.)  We are ever-changing, and with life it's the ebbs and flows which are challenging, often scary.   

 

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My husband is from Michigan and he never worked for the auto industry, but he has some stories anyway. Good luck!

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Carla: I have a very weak spot for analogies that have to do with the garden. A garden is reflective of life is so many ways as you pointed out.

I start every day with a walk through my garden, which is circled by a redwood grove. You watch the seasons come and go, you sip your coffee, and wonder when the fog will lift.

Had to banish all azaleas years ago. Way too water intensive. Can't resist having my one gardina though. PS All of my roses are white.

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Bill: I have a funny feeling a lot of people will be moving away from the Detroit area.

Jason: Well, it was a good lifestyle, as anyone who has ever worked for GM will tell you. But giving it up was the easiest thing in the world for me. Yes, I missed being in California THAT much.

I keep asking Jennifer why she doesn't miss the West Coast. Geez, you must be awfully cute, JS

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Hi Janet -- this is from another day, but you will appreciate it: 

http://activerain.com/blogsview/1087837/just-by-chance-thoughts-to-ponder-in-oregon

I have white Peonies, red roses :-)

Can you write loans in Oregon?

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Janet, my dad was a Buick dealer, my grandfather before him in Paducah, Ky.  So it was sad to see the demise. I live in MI and it is truly sad right now.

I remember all the contests to win those trips and mom and dad going on them.

I sold my stock when it hit 32.00 a share and still lost money.

My dad always told me to buy GM stock whenever it would go down.

I wonder what he is thinking now, as it is not the same world anymore.

Most exectives don't live in Detroit but in the suburbs and they are quite beautiful, at least in the summer.

IMO the Unions killed the big 3.

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I heard that the median home price in Detroit is currently somewhere around $10,000. I just checked and in December it was $7,500.

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Janet - I am part of the GM family too. I totally understand how the company sucked the life out their employees. You and hubby did the right thing.  It was about your personal happiness. That matters more than the money and the perks.

8:43pm • #42
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Sad indeed but we knew it was coming. Something good will come of it I'm sure. It should have been done 20 years ago.

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I just want to know about the car company... or are you talking about a dealership? 

Let's see...

  • Two wrongs don't make a right...  racial quotas...
  • Excess isn't a great idea, even when you can afford it...

And I still want to know about the car company...

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Okay Vickie, officially shocked by the thought of a house selling for $7500. What, do they put it on a credit card and forget the mortgage broker?

Missy, IMO the unions were a big part of what killed GM. My husband was the one who organized those trips for the dealers! I have heard Detroit has beautiful places. SAD...that is the right word for all of us that were involved with what was once a great and powerful company. Was wondering...are there still people involved in the car business in your family? I refused to let my own son consider a career in the car business...

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People don't stay with companies like they used to; the pensions, the perks, and benefits seem to belong to anotehr time.

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I wonder what the new product line coming from "Government Motors" will look like...

 

 

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I had to get to the end of the blog to understand how you got so much great stuff.  Then you said when he owned his own company you drove used cars!  That's more like my life with a car-dealer husband whose family owned the business.  We never knew corporate life but you saw both sides.  We did go on two or three trips for successful selling but that has been many years ago.  Nice, interesting blog.

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I left corporate consulting because I too felt there was no future there for me - though not for the same reasons - but because corporate life offers no actual life. Even if you are afforded some free time for family (which is no guarantee) the person who arrives home is usually an empty vessel. And what drove me out the door finally was being given all of the biggest most sensitive clients to work with, but then being kept back because there weren't the budget dollars in those clients's contracts to pay someone more senior to do the work I was given. Finally a senior exec friendly to me told me "look, they won't promote you because they think you won't leave." So I left - and thank goodness for it. Now I drive along gorgeous country roads on my way to an appointment and think - hey, wow, I'm actually working right now! Nobody should do any job that doesn't at least allow them to be happy... but so many still do.

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