We submitted an offer for a condo. Short sale. Asking price was $150K, my client wrote the offer for $136K, the Lender came back with $5K more than asking. The whole thing made my clients very uneasy, they thought that it was deceptive, wanted the answer in writing, thought that everyone was avoiding a paper trail.

The lender would not give this in writing, and as not the party to the transaction, they are not obligated (at least for now), they wanted that the Listing agent does it in writing, and, of course, the listing agent had no trouble to do it in writing, and neither had I

Then I sent them an e-mail, where showed the values, and a lot of other relevant stuff to put it all in perspective.

Anyway, I got the e-mail: "Jon, Thanks for your help. However, we feel our offer of $135K is fair for that property, and therefore, we will not increase our offer at this time. We remain interested in a 2 bedroom / 2 bath ocean front condo.

We would prefer a unit that had a few more amenities such as washer/dryer in the unit, shaded area by the pool,  BBQ area,  Hot tub, one outdoor pool and one indoor, a tennis court. For the right unit we may consider making an offer of $150K."

The problem is: there is not a single condo building on our 23-mile shore line that have all that even for the much higher price. All of them have some of the amenities, but none of them have it all. Even for $1Mil.

There is only one place which has all that, and thisis The Links in Ponce Inlet, where I live. But it is not right on the ocean, it is across the street from the Ocean, and the second problem is that the least expensive 2/2 in distress is $249K. We paid more.

What can I answer? That I want something like that on the Ocean for $150K myself? I really do. The funny thing is that $150K on the Ocean is not the market price, it was a distressed sale, and IMO a terrific value.

Oh, well. We all want what we can't get.

 
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8 Comments on If I Find It, I would Buy It Myself

JUN
06

Jon

It is unfortunate that during this time of financial instabilitywe also have to take the time to educate the consumer on proper pricing of their offers for the current market. It doesn't seem to matter that that market is changing by the minute , who knows in six months this fantasy condo may exist. Lets hope not , good luck and help them with their learning curve.

8:21am • #1
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This reminds me of an email from the local investor group earlier this week. One of the members had a friend that wanted to start buying in our area and is looking for properties that are no money down and 60-70% of after repair value maximum. Right, we all want to find those.

Some people are just delusional as to the reality of what is possible. They watch some late night infomercial or hear about their co worker's friend's cousin's neighbor found this great deal and paid pennies on the dollar. They would rather take rumors and second hand information than the cold hard facts from our local market expertise.

9:57am • #2
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Laura - It is sad and funny at the same time. I often have people who would ask about theprice, then say "Wow" and then they would say that they would love to buy this one but they first need to sell their home. So, how much do they want for their home? They want what they paid in 2005. And you can't explain that if you can buy so cheap on the Ocean, this means that you can't sell your home for anything close to what you pair at the height of the market.

Oh, but their home is very nice, and they did some upgrades... We all hear that often.

10:26am • #3
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Mark - And what about people saying that if they only could get something for certain price, they would buy in a heartbeat, and 2 weeks later something even better then what they wanted pops up, and I call them with the good news, and then they start saing that they are not sure about the market, etc? Guys, you said that, not me, so how come that 2 weeks ago you would have bought in a heartbeat and now you are concerned?

And to add insult to injury, they would then ask me to keep them in mind and call them if something really good pops up.

Soem are delusional, they are angry that sellers "are stupid", and say that the sellers "Have to" drop the price. You can't reaon with them. You can't exsplain to them that the prices are determined by the market and the Seller do HAVE TO reduce the price because of the article in the news or the fall in the stock market. The Seller does not have to do anything to please the buyer. Some can't hold, but nobody owes to the buyer.

And it is so easy to transition from the buyer to the looser. Just wait too long

10:44am • #4
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Jon,

So much of the public got their real estate eduction by sound byte! Your clients probably believe you always offer less than list price. They don't know real estate nor logic, blame their teacher's teachers!

Next!

Bill

9:11pm • #5
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Bill - when they feel that their offer is fair, it is not because there is supporting data. I showed them that this is a distressed sale, and that the prices are in the low to high $200s, but when I want the low price be fair, what can you do?

At the same time, I would not blame them, and I would not tell them that they have missed the boat, because I do not know what is going to happen tomorrow. I also donot knnow when it bottoms out. The problem would be that when it would go to their price, they would drop it again, as the idea of fair has changed so dramatically over the last 3-4 years

Thank you for the comment

11:42pm • #6
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Jon, in this area, it seems like sellers are becoming more realistic - but the buyers are becoming less and less and less realistic.  It is not working out well.

2:46am • #7
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Virginia - Yes, some people have hard time understand that when they say "I think my offer is fair", it may be not really fair.

I amd sure we all hear how buyers are getting angry with Sellers, saying "they do not get it, THey have to slash the prices". We all love to play the king.

10:25pm • #8

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