Marina Grande On The Halifax stands as a monument to unfortunate poor timing, coming to the market a little too late. Have they done it a year earlier, this would be a busy place, as once purchased, the units would be either owner, or tenant occupied.

Not now. People who did not agree to close, and instead reached the settlement and got their Earnest Money deposits back, or what was left after they paid their attorneys, So, as far as I heard, 89 people will not close as a result of settlement. Which leaves us with 55 people who bought units in the South Tower, and 11 people in the North Tower (according to Volusia County public records), Not that much out of 486 units.

Marina Grande on the HalifaxThe salespeople still donot sell there, and all they can say is that the transition between the Boca Developers and The Momentis Property Group has not been finalized. Meanwhile, inspired by the legal victory of 89 would-be owners, existing Owners are trying to weigh their chances to get some reprieve from the developer/new owner, and new owner may not want to get entangled in legal war, which may hamper their ability to sell units in the condo towers.

It is not yet clear whether the new owners have paid off the liens left by the initial developer, and if not, how that may affect the sales there. If what I heard is right, there were not sales in 2 years, and agents, who have listings on MLS can't answer if they actually can make sure the sale can even happen.

I do not know  the financial strength of the new owner. Their employees sound upbeat and optimistic, but it really doesn't mean much, as they first time told me that the sales would start in a month, then, after I came back in a month, they told me that in another month, and when I called last week, they told me that in another 6 to 8 weeks.

It is a very expensive proposition to own 2 nearly empty (and not even half of those who closed actually live there) condo buildings with quite sizable commercial space, sitting empty now. It might cost millions a year just to maintain the property, and without the sales the chances of it to be sustainable are very unlikely. But even when they go with sales, in today's market and with today's inventory they might find it very difficult to sell even at half the original price.

Last Wdnesdaythe least expensive unit on MLS, a gorgeous 2/2 condo unit went into foreclosure. It was listed for just under $190K and even at this unbelievable price it did not fetch an offer. Not a good indicator for future sales.

I will keep you posted on the progress in that beautiful condominium project, which only fault was the timing.

Disclaimer:There is practically no information from either the new owners, or anything in the paper, so all information used here is from talking to  employees, those who bought, and those who sued and walked away. The opinions expressed here are mine, and they are only opinions, nothing more.

 
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6 Comments on Marina Grande on The Halifax, Daytona Beach. Another Month Past.

JUN
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Obviously, I don't know Daytona Beach but does this overlook the water? How much did these units originally sell for? I'd imagine anybody would be a fool not to buy a brand new waterfront condo for under $200K; well, unless of course the HOA fees are outrageous. Who is running the HOA without so few units sold? And why did the original buyers back out?

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Elizabeth - these are riverfront buildings (Itracoastal), and from 6-7 floor up there is also the view of the Ocean.

They were initially on the market starting from mid $400s. The developer voluntarily gave properties back to those, who financed them and that's how the new owner got it. They are the Association, and they are responsible for all thepayments, and with so few units sold, they do not get much from the individual owners.

I am not sure that  all of them pay, there might be defaults. Hard to believe in this scenario, and it was simply unimaginabe 3-4 years ago.

8:46am • #2
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Jon, I'd say that bad timing is quite an understatement!  This looks like an amazing building!  This story really illustrates the risks of buying new construction in this market.

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Patricia - There are two 25-story buildings, and there are 2 more that were planned to be built therer, and there was a host of other things around, and the whole area would be different if not the nosedive of the  market.

Did I see it coming? Nope. Even though iwas cautious adn was telling my clients to stay calm regarding  this property. Luckily, I did not sell a unit there when people were signing up right and left. I was lucky.

10:53pm • #4
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I am wondering if there is any leasing a unit. Is there a risk of losing the unit once leased? And is the owner possibly interested in leasing,we are looking.

Tony n Pam
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Tony n Pam,

So far there was so much uncertainty, that when I sent a letter to the owners asking them whether they would consider renting, nobody even answered. I will do it again on Monday, and see if I can get anyone work with us. It is a terrific place, just very unfortunate timing.

I will get back to you on that very shortly. Thanks

10:01pm • #7

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