angry womanI tend to follow marketing people on Facebook as well as ActiveRain, and for the most part they do a great job promoting themselves as experts in their field. Every once in a while however, someone uploads a post that does more harm to their reputation than good. Let me give you an example.

Talk Trash

Recently, one of the marketing people I follow uploaded a post trashing a competitor. She didn’t name the competitor, but she made a big deal as to how unqualified this individual was with respect to teaching a certain subject. It was clear that her intent was to promote her credibility as the expert while trashing the expertise of her competition. Bad idea. In doing so, she lowered herself in the eyes of many of her followers.

This Was My Intent … Really

I’m certain that if you asked her what her intent was with the post, she would tell you that she wanted to warn people not to fall pray to unqualified service providers. Problem was, that’s not how the post came across to me or to most of her readers. It read as though she had an axe to grind with this individual and this was her way of trashing them while promoting herself as the guru.

Now, if you were to read the comments her followers made concerning her post, you would think that she is a goddess who can do no wrong. Unfortunately, the only people who commented on her post where her acolytes who gave here a false sense that what she did was OK. It wasn’t, and here’s why.

Reason 1:

When you’re the recognized expert in your field, people hold you to a higher standard. They don’t expect you to verbally hammer the little guy, even if you don’t call them by name. They will see you as a bully with a big stick. It’s the equivalent of the President of the United States getting on national television and telling the American people that the union or the management of a specific company is evil and greedy. Name calling at that level is just not done.

And they believe that if you’re capable of bullying someone else, you’re certainly capable of bullying them. There’s a reason people cheer for the underdog when the person in power is abusing it.

Reason 2:

When you talk about or write about how bad someone is, you’re associating yourself with that story. I, for example, will always associate this marketing person with this specific Facebook post. If her intent was to tear apart her competitor and built her reputation at the same time, she could have asked one of her acolytes to post the message for her. Had she done that, she would have successfully stabbed her competition in the back while looking totally innocent. P.S. I don’t suggest you do this.

Water fightReason 3:

No one likes a complainer. Complaining about someone else is a sign of weakness and vulnerability. It is not what you expect from someone who is at the top of their game. It does not instill confidence in your capabilities. People will always wonder why you are more concerned about your competition than you are with your own capabilities.

What’s The Solution?

If my marketing friend was really concerned about her customers getting screwed, she could have conveyed that message while building her reputation as a likable problem solver at the same time. Rather than slam her competitor, she could have posted a warning in the form of a tip. For example.

To my Active Rain friends.

Here are a few tips to help insure that you’re getting the very best value for your money when you hire someone to (fill in the blank.)

  1. Check their credentials
  2. Check their references
  3. Check their reputation
  4. Check bla bla bla

In doing these four things, you will not only protect yourself against fraud, but you will find a service provider that you can trust. If a service provider is reluctant to provide this information, run!

Conclusion

Now, that’s a much better way to provide a warning without complaining and without bullying the underdog. Just as importantly, you shouldn’t be talking trash about your competition even if you are the new guy on the block. It doesn’t wear well on anyone.

We like people who we associate with good feelings and we don’t like people who we associate with bad feelings. Make sure that every conversation you have and every post you upload to the Internet encourages people to associate you with good feelings. It will not only improve your likeability, but it will build your reputation as the expert in your field.

If you would like to read more about how to be immediatley more likeable, please join the Likeability Guy at http://www.BobSommers.com

 
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75 Comments on Trash Your Competition: Bad Idea

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I have seen a few posts on here that call people out by name and was shocked but maybe there's something I don't know about the dynamics between the two since I am a newbie.

2:54pm • #1
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Seems to me that if the person uses their media space or time to trash their competitors, they are losing the opportunity to promote themselves.

I was totally turned off by a new home salesperson who did the same thing last week, denigrating the competition. 

2:55pm • #2

I wouldn't want to trash my competition

It could be seen as a poor reflection on my character.

 

 

2:58pm • #3
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I have seen more then a few posts who just did that, and as I did just a bit checking what they drug as a negative thing into the blog scene was actually not true...and that happenedmore then once and with just one or two clicks of a mouse they could have found out the truth.

3:00pm • #4
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Two wrongs certainly don't make a right....ever. Examples are good....but comparing how one is better than another by trashing is not my idea of 1) a professional  2) works well with others  3) puff themselves up at the expense of others is not good advertising 4) Bad reflection on both!

Thanks for an enlightening post...and a reminder to all!

3:18pm • #5
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I had an agent interview recently who totally trashed her office and several agents. I didn't offer her  a spot in MY office.

3:29pm • #6

Since when did trash talking become acceptable or productive?  Recently I heard a report that a local agent told a a young couple looking for their first home that if they worked with an independent brokerage their offer would be ignored by the major companies.  Trash talking didn't work; the buyer was unconvinced and choose the independent.   

3:50pm • #7
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Like my momma always said, "If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all!"  That is some timeless advice!

4:08pm • #8
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I have always believed (and still do) that trashing others only makes you look bad.  It's a shame that apparently so many people are doing it these days on websites and in blogs.  It's fine to list your credentials but bashing others is never a good thing to see.  Thank you for a wonderful post, I'm happy to see it featured!

4:20pm • #9
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Hi Bob -- I think most people are pretty good at sniffing people out.  Some people will gravitate to BS, but not most people.  One can objectively lay out their business model and leave it up to the consumer to decide.

4:40pm • #10
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Bob--In marketing it is always better to sell your product (or yourself) and not draw attention to the competition in anyway. People like positive advertising and positive people...Isn't that why everyone gets so tired of all advertising during any political campaign? Sometimes trash talking just isn't believed.

4:47pm • #11
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Personally, I use my husband as a sounding board when I experience a "bad" professional.  This seems to work for me.   We all need to vent on occasion....  Just don't put it in writing!

5:12pm • #12
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I have to agree. Why spend one second of time trashing someone else when you could be promoting yourself? Silly isn't it?

5:12pm • #13
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I love my competition because when I'm overflowing with work, I can refer to them. In one instances back in 1993, I sold my company to my competition, which allowed me to move to San Diego.

5:17pm • #14
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Bob...

What we say is 'always' a reflection of our inner soul. Trashing our Peers in this industry does way more harm than good.

Then again, I judge our success by how much trash I hear about us. One of our competitors refers to my husband as "King Tut". Yah. Like we don't know she's Blogging about us :)

TLW...ROAR!

6:19pm • #15
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Isn't it against code of ethics to trash a fellow agent or company. I always say, Yea, I know them, their good people. It makes me look good too, I beleive. Well thought out post, thanks.

BTW, for those like me that had to look it up, here is the definition for;

ac·o·lyte  n. 1. One who assists the celebrant in the performance of liturgical rites. 2. A devoted follower or attendant.

6:51pm • #16

I hope all the flat-fee and Redfin bashers are reading this.

Another Realtor
7:21pm • #17
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Bob -

Negative talk always backfires.  Always.

It makes you look insecure.

But setting yourself up as THE ONLY ONE WHO DOES WHAT YOU DO - far smarter, and more effective.

Trash talk accomplishes nothing - except getting your bad feelings out in the open.

DEAN & DEAN'S TEAM CHICAGO

7:27pm • #18
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I'm surprised the code of ethics hasn't come up on this discussion.  As professional REALTORs we are not supposed to be trashing other agents.  It's bad for the industry a whole and for goodness sake the person doing the trashing is making themselves look bad.  Who really thinks well of another agent putting other agents down.  Find a solution and work it out with respect or move on and shhhhh.  Talk to your partner or good friend and 'get it out' but don't trash other folks ever.

7:42pm • #19

Bob, I read a comment on a post sometime back and the suggestion was that if you had to get something off your chest-write the post leave the draft for a day or two and make sure you want to post it for the world. Your post is excellent and hit's the nail on the head. Have a GREAT day!

7:45pm • #20
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I hope this wasn't directed to me because i have written some pretty strong call to actions on AR recently.  It isn't because I am bashing my competition.  It is because people DO need someone experienced IN THE CURRENT MARKET to successfully facilitate a real estate transaction in my market.  Every time I write that call to action I do get a bunch of leads.  Shrug, I guess if people want to go to someone who doesn't know what they are doing, they will eventually find someone who does know what they are doing.  This isn't a typical "fake it till you make it" market.

8:04pm • #21

I love the concept that when something bothers you, check to see what part of yourself it is mirroring.

8:24pm • #22
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I think the ranting blogs are a turn off to me.  I try never to post one because they just dont feel good.

8:26pm • #23

Couple thougths:

What goes around comes around

Treat others as you want to be treated yourself.

One more, from my mom: if you have nothing good to say about a person, just shut up and don't say anything.

Thanks for reminding us again!

 

8:37pm • #24
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Bob, I agree that as a professional, when we spew negative "trash" about others, it reflects poorly on us too.  Who wants to be associated with a negative person?  No one!!!

8:58pm • #25
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You are right never complain about the competition it will hurt you more than help you in the long run

9:00pm • #26
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I guess I have been guilty of this in the past, although it is typically directed at the ineptitude of someone in an ancillary industry.  Speaking of competition, have you seen this guy?

http://activerain.com/thelikeabilityguy

9:53pm • #27
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We should all respect others. Even if there is someong not doing things as they should, a public forum is no place to trash talk about them.

10:16pm • #28
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Hi Jason:

Yes, I have seen him. Kirt Fletcher and I decided that it was OK if there were two likeability guys. As a matter of fact, we agreed it would be even better if there were a million of us. Would you like to join us and make it three before the sun goes down :-)

Thanks for the note.

Aloha, Bob

10:18pm • #29
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Never saw the need to trash someone else either here or in person. It's a sign of bad manners, and my mother taught me better than that.

10:40pm • #30
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Aloha Jason,

Thanks for the post, the idea of talking bad about another to boost your own credibility just doesn't make sense.  A question of a client may arise, what is this person saying about ME to the public?

Jared

12:35am • #31

I agree with someone who said: if u even know that the 'negative' is true, say nothing.

I don't hear (  or I don't pay attention maybe) complains R2R, but ciients trash thier previous agents a lot....:) I'm sure, u all experienced it. In any case: a realtor, a client, or just anyone from your circle trashes someone, complains, gossips ....my first and only thought: I can be next.  it is just a nature of some ppl, kinda 'normal'.....don't u think?

12:46am • #32
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Good post. Instead of bashing, we should improve on ourselves.

5:21am • #34
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[I judge our success by how much trash I hear about us.] Haha! Yup.

"That's how you know you're getting ahead . . . when you come under fire." (Waitley)
"It is better to be looked over than overlooked." (West)  ;)

 

6:26am • #35
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There are different sites you can answer questions for consumers.  I answered one the other day and then there was a lot trashing.  NOT directed at me but still I don't want to be even in the same forum with that behavior.

6:43am • #36

I remember my first commercial deal.  I met with a very respected and well known commercial listing agent and my client.  I was so green and knew I was "playing with the big boys" which was very intimidating at the time.  The first thing the list agent did was compliment me, my research and my professionalism.  Both myself and my client were super impressed and it spoke volumes about this agent's integrity and confidence in himself. 

I always try to look for the positive in people and find that when mistakes and weakness are met with grace (and education, if welcomed) everyone is better off in the end. 

Not to mention that we all want our industry to be viewed as one of professionals with a high standard of conduct.

6:55am • #37
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Some sellers who listed and it didn't sell, like to vent. I let them vent about the other agent, then I say, "feel better?"

Now let's move on and get your home on the market. I am not them. Not ethical to critize another agent, there is always two sides to the story.

7:18am • #38

Great post. In every business a person will always see how their company can out perform a prospects current company. Even if it is true we should be careful to point out our strengths not our competitors weaknesses.

7:21am • #39
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Trashing another says more about the trasher than the trashee.

7:28am • #40

I try to avoid putting negatives into the universe.  It's hard sometimes, but the practice pays dividends.

7:40am • #41
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I agree with both Lenn and Jason, why trash someone whem you should be promoting yourself and jason has never gone after a person or entity in a malicious manner. Sadly some people need to make themselves feel more relevant by attacking others and then writing long winded comments and posts to justify their ego ridden behavior. Nice post and I am glad to see it featured!

7:59am • #42

Let me get this straight, the writer DID NOT IDENTIFY THE SUSPECT!  

Perhaps you missed the objective, the writer was identifying a practice, not a person.

Perhaps that practice is a trademake of an organization thereby being somewhat identifiable.

Perhaps, instead of being a lemming the writer was taking the personal risk of being the watchman on the wall and warning of practices the citizens and our pure and righteous profession will again suffer the consequenses of.

The writer, may have captured the idea that standing innocentlly by while 'wink-wink' loans were approved and unqualified buyers were set up for failure wasn't the best policy after all. Perhaps the write is seeing one majour real estae brokerage is convaluting the short sale market to the deteriment of other agents, the potential buyer. How the seller is truly left in 18 years of financial purgatory.

Perhaps the writer has had enough and decided catering to the divas in are business is only going to reap more of the same ill gotten fruit. 

Perhaps this writer has pure motives and those whose boat was rocked can't see it.

By the way, isn't your post trashing another agent? Hmmmmm...

confused
8:17am • #43

I agree Bob, we need to be very careful about what we post...the speed at which information is transferred online is blinding sometimes!!

8:29am • #44
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So would you folks consider THIS POST as "trashing a competitor"?

Sometimes certain practices need to be talked about.

8:42am • #45
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I appreciate this post. I was the new broker in town several years ago and rather than judge me by my credentials and work ethic I was and still am bad mouthed by many long time agents. I have made it a point in my office to NEVER speak poorly of my competitors, even when they are wrong and even whent hey deserve it. I always have and always will welcome competition.

8:47am • #46

I agree, what you say about other people identified or not reflects upon you.

Jennifer Manchester
8:48am • #47

Absolutely, you need to keep your marketing message positive. Besides, you never know who you are talking to...

9:13am • #48
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Bob, youa re absolutely right. Trying to make yourself look better by badmouthing others is just sad and proves that the WRITER is NOT the professional! Wow. Thanks for sharing!

9:24am • #49
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I remember when I was brand-new, complying with my broker's program of all her agents sponsoring neighborhood garage sales on the same day. I decided to do it in my very own neighborhood, and I got a voice message from a very well-known long-time agent, which said, "I've been working that neighborhood for 30 years, so if you're smart, you'll take your garage sale and go some place else." And the garage sale was a total bust, because all of the 85 signs I put out disappeared except for 5! Dirty business.  Boy, did I want to trash her by making that recording public. Fortunately, my broker gave the good advice of ignoring her and just doing the best job I can.  It sure did feel good when I was able, 5 years later, to announce that I was the #1 agent in the neighborhood!

9:50am • #50
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Hi Bob,  Very well written and presented post.  Your premise of associating yourself with positive elements is excellent.   Well done.

10:04am • #51
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I never trash OUR competition....EVER!  It is mind over matter.   I dont mind, because they dont matter!   LOL   I will only MAYBE say something like..."well, if they/you were that happy with them, you would be HERE right now!"   :)

We need to focus on our strengths and postives, not others negatives!

Oh, and trashing your competition, could be on the same lines as TRASHING a profession here on AR as well!

Very disappointing when it happens, and I have no problem pointing out the WHO's!  None at all!   We seem to be so okay with pointing fingers, we are missing the point some time!  That is the ONLY thing that angers me about AR for example!  I am confident that the people who do that, spend the same time in the market doing that to their competition. 

Congrats on the feature!

D

 

10:14am • #52
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I learned a great lesson when I started a home audio store in 1973 in Norman, Oklahoma. The old competition was trashing us to every potential client that came into their store around the corner. They built our traffic up dramatically because people wanted to see why they were so afraid of us. Best to be silent sometimes.

10:31am • #54
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I speak highly of most other agents or say nothing.  Now I will warn people about issues they might run into and what to be careful of.

10:54am • #55

Speaking negatively of the competition does indeed violate the Code of Ethics. I actually once saw an advertisement in a local newspaper where a Realtor (yes, a Realtor), paid to run an ad that said, "Realtors suck"...among other negative things about us, mostly stereotypes that the public holds. His point was to say that he was different. I immediately took some time and filed a complaint with my local Board of Realtors. It turned out in his response, that his Broker didn't know that he was running this ad, made him stop and accept responsibility for his actions (a fine & required classes). So, we never made it to the Hearing Panel. But, I was ready. My guess is that he will never do this again. When we see it happening, we need to police our own. We can clean up our industry from the inside, and not let the public have to see this, or do it for us. If they say it to us, they are saying it to buyers and sellers.

We also need to protect ourselves. I had an agent who goofed during the transaction & did not protect her clients. She was mad at me & told me after it closed that she would tell everybody about me. I told her that if I found that she said one word about me that was untrue and negative, that I would instantly file a complaint against her and provide evidence about what happened in the transaction. She emailed me back that she would not. I've been listening...

11:08am • #56
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We need to be careful BUT we also have a responsibility to let others know of certain practices happening.

Had the Physicians policed themselves many years ago and not covered up the wrongs of their fellow practitioners , managed care may not have entered , at least with as much devastation. Again, another whole blog......separate from real estate.

Calling someone out by name I do believe is a risk. However calling out a questionable practice that consumers need to be aware of as well as other Realtors is another thing .

In terms of going to a listing presentation and bashing the competition......that shows the ineptitude and lack of confidence and ability of that Realtor or agent who feels the need to do such. They should consider another line of work.

11:36am • #57
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"Rather than slam her competitor, she could have posted a warning in the form of a tip."

I think this is the best way to handle a situation like this.  Karma is a.....

11:53am • #58

"So would you folks consider THIS POST as "trashing a competitor"?"

Not bashing but it is shameless self-promotion. I see that a lot on here and on realtor blogs. "I'm so great. The competition isn't so great and here's why I'm so much better and you should work with me instead: blah blah blah blah blah. Oh and here's my phone number. Give me a call so I can become your agent." Please. Most of the articles on here and elsewhere are nothing but shameless sales pitches and bitch sessions.

The Other One
12:05pm • #59

"And the garage sale was a total bust, because all of the 85 signs I put out disappeared except for 5!"

I bet you put those signs up in places where they aren't allowed (there are laws about this). Probably the city took them down (and I doubt you would have gone around and removed all 85 of them). On another note, don't blame your failure on your competition.

The Other One
12:07pm • #60
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Thank you! As a loan officer, I've experienced some of my peers talk badly about their competition to prospects to win their business, and it REALLY bothers me.  For instance, they'll make assumptions of what the other LO was thinking when structuring the deal, and imply they are inexperienced or taking advantage of the client.  Its just plain wrong, and I make it a point to NEVER do that even when bidding for the business.

I think its important for us to treat our competition the way we'd hope they'd treat us.

12:16pm • #61

So this person did not mention her competition?  And the problem is . . . what now?  And how do you know that "others" were offended too?  Did you talk to her directly about it or are you just posting a rant about it.  If it was that offensive (and I wouldn't know since you did not specify the blog post you are referring to), did you say something to help her grow in this area? 

My spin for what it is worth!!

 

12:21pm • #62
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Boy you are the likability guy!  Yeah I suppose I agree, sorta.  No sticks?

1:27pm • #63
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I'd rather take the high road and just tout the benefits of working with me rather than try to tear my competitors down...and besides, it's against the NAR rules for me to do that anyway.

1:40pm • #64
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Thank you for your comments and stories. I'm surpirsied at how many of us have had to deal with people who feel justified in trashing their competition and how blinded they are as to how they're seen by others due to their behavior.

1:50pm • #65

Good post, Bob.  We call those people "Legends In Their Own Mind". 

2:25pm • #66
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Good post and great reminder to stay positive. Always better to just state your value proposition and leave it at that. You're right -it makes you look bad when you try to look better than other by trashing them. As my mother used to say, "If you can't say anything good about someone, don't say anything at all." That's the mantra that's been drummed into my head which keeps me grounded.

3:25pm • #67

alot of great responses here.  I thought it was a rather straightforward answer.  I win trust and prospects by talking myself, and my firm, up. 

Anybody have a problem with officewide Preferred vendor lists & Blackball lists for vendors with major problems or shortcomings

3:26pm • #68
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Once we had a broker who ran an ad that said, "Other agents get lost in _______." The board made them stop running it, but hey, it WAS true. That place is hard to navigate. :)

Another broker ran a series of ads saying he was the only one with the guts to tell the truth...umm, that didn't last long either.

Let us remember the wise Ben Franklin (wasn't it?) who said, "Keep your words soft and sweet in case you have to eat them..."

 

4:38pm • #69
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You never know when you might need the agent you trashed in some way. You might have to be working with that person and need her as an ally.......you can think what you want but don't trash her outwardly.

Patricia Aulson/portsmouth nh real estate

4:50pm • #70
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Dawn:

Thank you for inspiring me on my next blog post.

"Keep your words soft and sweet in case you have to eat them."

And thank you to "Confused" who wrote in comment #43. I encourage you all to read his or her post. The question you bring up is this,

"How do I "ring the bell of injustice" without using it to promote me and or my service at the same time?"

My feeling is that when you "ring the bell" and you try to benefit from it directly, you're on the wrong path. When you "ring the bell" for the benefit of those being taken advantage of without standing on their back or trying to prop yourself up in the process, you're getting the warning out for the right reasons.

There is a time when we need to raise our voices when an injustices is taking place. The question we must ask ourselves is, "For whose benefit are we doing this?"

5:04pm • #71

Great Post!  I was always told "Never put someone else down to build yourself up"...

6:48pm • #72
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All us old school better catch up. Bashing and trashing is all around us just listen to what our kids are fed everyday through the radio and news.

9:48pm • #73

There is enough turmoil in this world without us bashing on each other.....we all need each other to survive.

Lynne Schleper
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I like your post and how you pointed out how it could have been done correctly!  Cool pictures that you choose too!!!

1:04pm • #75
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Hi Bob. Very true. If you are one of the best at what you do...others will know. No need to attack the other guy. Attacking is usually a sign of weakness and a lack of class.

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