Inspectors will often refer to items as being at the “end of their expected life” or any number of similar phrases.  Buyers like to have some guidance about life expectancies of appliances, furnaces, plumbing pipes, electrical components, roofing materials, siding materials, and water heaters---among other things.

Really old asbestos covered furnace     Generally speaking it is possible to give some “rough” guidelines, but pinning down the “approximate” demise of any component is very difficult.

     For example take a garbage disposal.  They typically have a life expectancy of about 12 years but if the thing never gets used it might last a lot longer.  On the other hand take a Hot Water Tap---you know the type that is under the sink and sends very hot water to a faucet at the sink for tea or coffee?  These things can be expected to last about 8-10 years but will last about that long regardless the amount of use because the thing is sitting there working (heating) whether you use it or not----time is its biggest enemy.

     For inspectors it is much easier to deal with describing things that are at the end of their expected life----it is all of those years when the unit is “approaching” the end of its expected life that we are in greyer territory.  One must add to this, things like improper installation, leaks, mechanical damage and lack of maintenance that can shorten the life of the appliance.

     Honestly I don’t even know why inspectors play this game---but we do.  Most just try to give enough vagueness and sputtering to the process to help the buyer understand that such evaluation is far from an exact science. 

     If you have a 30 year old electric water heater, it is good practical information for the buyer, to tell them that they better have some pennies put away for a new one.  On the other hand a 10 year old heater might be a lemon and fail tomorrow anyway.

     All home owners should embrace the fact that all things break----and usually when you are not at home to put a pan under it.

     As I said previously, my day is a lot easier when things are at the end of their life----or when, as inspectors like to say, “It’s toast.”

     This gutter is a good example.

Gutters

     There is nothing quite as helpful as obviousness.

 

Charles Buell

 

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35 Comments on Edsels, lemons and toast!

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You know I had a heater in my last house 18 years. It was at the end of its life from year 8 onward. I guess a home warentee helps this situation. But in the end you are right the gutter picture makes the point. Thanks

8:24am • #1
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I had a water heater last under 10 years and one that is over over 20. Go figure. Sometimes the obvious is not obvious to the buyer. That's where your pointing finger comes in play!

8:53am • #2

Yep, not much vagueness about the gutter possibly needing to be replaced. Although I know a few people that can do amazing things with duck tape.

9:14am • #3
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Charlie, thanks

Norma, we do like to "point n' shout"

Dan---a new gutter would be cheaper----but not as much fun:)

9:25am • #4
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If the gutter was that bad I hate to see the rest of the house.  Wow, I didn't know they could get that bad.  Inspectors are put in a spot in regards to how the buyer relies on the information given by the inspector.  Inspectors are people too, not psychics, although that sure would be a nice trait for home inspectors to have.  :)

Chanda panda

9:33am • #5
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You know Charles, I WANT a new microwave, but my microwave is living beyond it's day.  It's 24 years old and still makes popcorn.  I can't bring myself to throw the thing out if it still works.  That gutter on the other hand, well it needs to go.

10:26am • #6
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Proper and scheduled inspections of all things mechanical is a good idea!

10:40am • #7
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Chanda---love to be Superman:)

Tammy, so funny----sometimes things last tooooo long don't they?

Tony---you just never know when things are going to break but if you check them often enough you may have some warning.

2:39pm • #8
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It is hard to predict when something will finally just die. I had a roof the other day that was toast, my exact word to the buyer. Those are easy. It's all the in between stuff that can give you heartburn.

4:07pm • #9
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Mr Charles,

Since you and Mr James are commenting, I must say that the large garbage disposal that you show in the blog post above is the largest and most interesting disposal I have ever seen. And I have seen many, almost going down a couple.

Did you also request that I wear my lemon outfit?

Nutsy

4:10pm • #10
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James, roofing gets the term "toast" often.

Nutsy, the thing pictured is indeed a squirrel-disposal----one would have to be way to careful to use it as a barbeque (you better not let Barbara catch you in that lemon outfit)

6:09pm • #11
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Lemon flavored barbecued squirrel, sounds good to me. But were not using that "grill".

6:17pm • #12
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You mean that "2-second" squirrel cooker?

6:21pm • #13
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Yes, that turbo charged, asbestos encrusted squirrel toaster. Buuuut we could try it on Nutsy just for fun:)

6:28pm • #14
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Haaaa, haaaa , haaa,

I so love to laugh with you gents when you make a joke. So fun.

Nutsy

6:51pm • #15
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Gents,  The whole idea of a barbecue overrun with my family is oh so funny. You would find my family so entertaining that you would just laugh yourselves silly. They are so amusing and so bright.

Nutsy

8:09pm • #18
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I guess you do love "obvious" things in a home inspection.  It's the surprises that we hate to hear about.

9:38pm • #19
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"Gents,  The whole idea of a barbecue overrun with of my family is oh so funny yummy. You would find my family so entertaining appetizing that you would just laugh gorge yourselves silly. They are so bemusing and so bright delicious."

Barbara, I had major foundation settlement today that nobody wanted to hear about but were glad they did:)

 

9:47pm • #20

Roof "toast" indeed... that gutter looks like burnt toast!  I love your graphic greyer area....

On the other topic: Forever stamps: only forever if you can keep making them stick to new envelopes?? :)

9:47pm • #21
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Shoshana, thanks---and don't they get a cancellation mark once they have been used?:)

9:49pm • #22
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Hi Charles: I loved those gutters also - great shot.

:)

10:18pm • #23
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I guess you can't count on anything mechanical sticking around forever. Mind if I link to this one for my newsletter this week? My clients need to know this wisdom!

10:26am • #25
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Lizette, you know you are welcome to link these anytime you like.

10:57am • #26

You just have to pay for them forever.

Great picture.  It looks distinctly like lit belongs on a 1960/70 lost in space.

I'm pretty much right on when it comes to gutters that look like that.  Probably past it useful life expectancy and May be subject to failure.

1:04pm • #27
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I say "approaching the end of it's serviceable life" all the time. 

I'm still waiting for some wise-ass to point out to me that every component in the home is always approaching the end of it's serviceable life.

10:04pm • #28
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Jack that boiler is about as old as they get----actually an open to the atmospher type----don't see too many of them anymore.

Reuben, does "end of its serviceable life" mean that one can't take a grease gun to it anymore?:)

12:40am • #29
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The typical life cycle for the ..... is ..... years.

There are circumstances that will shorten the life cycle for the .... How much shorter is difficult to discern.

But, a properly maintained ..... by last for many more years. How many more is difficult to discern.

But, I might suggest that you check out Lizette's old pink refrigerator, to get a better idea of how long your .... will last.

8:32pm • #30
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Andrew that is one nice pink refrigerator

7:45pm • #31
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My famous line is, "This will last another week or couple of years.  If I could predict when it will fail, I would not be doing home inspections!"

3:57am • #32
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Jay, talk about the ultimate in "ancilliary services":)

1:07am • #34
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Charlie - you called it ....toast might do a better job than that existing gutter.

3:22am • #35
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Carol---might get a little soggy though:)

1:39pm • #36

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