Destin Condos

In Destin, Florida, and around the country, as time goes by with short sales, a new problem is growing--  unpaid condo association dues.  I currently have two short sales pending with with over $20,000 in unpaid association dues.  Short sale mortgage holders are growing weary of paying these huge back-fees to facilitate a short sale.  Sure, I've had $10,000 or $12,000 paid to satisfy associations in short sales before.  But the longer the short sale or bank action takes, the more the dues will start piling up.   Now I have Bank of America balking at paying the association dues on a $300,000 Destin short sale.  They want my seller, with no income at all, to pay a promissory note of $40,000 or cash at closing of $20,000, because of the $20,000 past due amount.  How am I tackling this problem?

Brainstorming solutions is one of my favorite parts of negotiations.  Here is what I found:

Florida Statutes, Section 718.116  states:

The liability of a first mortgagee or its successor or assignees who acquire title to a unit by foreclosure or by deed in lieu of foreclosure for the unpaid assessments that became due prior to the mortgagee's acquisition of title is limited to the lesser of:

1.  The unit's unpaid common expenses and regular periodic assessments which accrued or came due during the 6 months immediately preceding the acquisition of title and for which payment in full has not been received by the association; or

2.   One percent of the original mortgage debt. The provisions of this paragraph apply only if the first mortgagee joined the association as a defendant in the foreclosure action. Joinder of the association is not required if, on the date the complaint is filed, the association was dissolved or did not maintain an office or agent for service of process at a location which was known to or reasonably discoverable by the mortgagee.

 In my case, there are about two years past due in condo fees.  I have asked the association to agree to a compromise to accomodate the short sale.  Basically, if the condo goes to foreclosure, they will only be paid 6 months dues by the senior lienholder. 

If they could reduce the balance owed in any amount to allow the short sale to occur, then the association will gain by:

1.  Immediate income to fund a project already in financial need

2.  More than the minimal 6 months past due that a foreclosure action will pay them - at some later date

3.  A new owner who will certainly be paying his dues on an ongoing basis, providing immediate cash flow

By agreeing to a lesser amount to allow the short sale, that does not mean the association will not pursue the homeowner separately for the balance owed.  But a compromise can allow the short sale process to take place,both benefitting the condo project's financial position, and helping the homeowner solve his dilemma.

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14 Comments on Short Sales and Condo Dues: The Next Generation of Junior Liens

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Wendy ... Looks like you are tracking the law on rights and responsibilities of lienholders, including HOAs, in Florida short sale situations.  That's close to legal services.  Please be careful and consult with your broker's counsel before you provide any advice on this, other than to give to your owner client, or buyer client, or the bank, this statute information.  It's complicated and different in other states too.

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Harrison - Thank you- I always advise an attorney...  That is the actual quote of Florida Statutes.

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Hmmm, I guess I read this differently.  It seems that knowing the law of rights and responsibilities of lienholders including HOAs makes you a more effective agent.  It allows you to give your client choices that he might otherwise have been unaware of.  This, in turn, lets him have conversations with the appropriate professionals to decide the best path forward.  The advice I gleaned was 'knowing your business is the best way to help your clients'  I think I can safely apply that model here in Louisville.

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We have a big problem in VA with unpaid condo assessments.  Even if the association puts a lien on the property they are the junior lien holder, sometime in third position.  When the property goes to foreclosure the association gets zero.  Once the lender takes over they are responsible for paying the dues from the time they own the property to settlement. Except they don't pay until settlement.  So the association eats 6-9 months of dues plus attorney fees prior to foreclosure and then holds their breath until the unit sells again.  The result has been special assessments or large jumps in monthly fees against the rest of the unit owners to try and keep up with the bills.

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Erik - I try to help solve problems.

Cindy - It is a burden to paying owners.  I am president of my commercial condo board where I have my office.  We now cannot fund reserves, but then we should not have paved the parking lot, either.

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Wendy,  this is a great compramise for all, I have a condo with $15,000 due and will be looking in to my states stance on this subject

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Steve - I think so...  Curious about other states' laws.  Let me know if you have something similar in New Hampshire.  Florida restricts non-condo HOA's to collect 12 months unpaid dues, condos only 6.

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Great info Wendy. I have this issue right now on my listing in Key Largo. This is an excellent find. You're so smart!!!

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Wendy - This is great information for any agents doing short sales for a condo.  While I don't know how this applies in Connecticut, I'll definitely be checking with an attorney on how our state laws look at this.

7:39pm • #9
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I have always ask the condo association to reduce their amount to get the deal through and this is also true for HOA. Many times the lawyers will agree after letting them know they will get nothing if the property goes to foreclosure.

4:47am • #10
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Compromise is the name of the game..we have not had them that high here but then again, we don't have many with pools to maintain...just snow to shovel...blog on !

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Really .. This is why you are the BEST AGENT heck the QUEEN of SHORT SALES... most agents would have not done the home work needed to come up with this

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Wendy, great example of what the art of compromise can do.  Sometimes the condo associations simply want to dig their heels in and not budge but all would benefit if they'd just look at the whole picture and the end result.

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I'm dealing with this for the first time myself. (Happens to be B of A also) Lucky for me six months worth of HOA dues on this place and lawyer fees only come to $600.

Todd Clark - www.LivingBeaverton.com

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