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Real Estate Broker/Owner with Monterey County Appraisal Services & Open House Realty (831) 224-3793 BREA Lic. AR041324
I am both an appraiser and a real estate broker. Recently I was asked to perform an appraisal on a unique property on large acreage with a large home. I performed the appraisal and the lender said he could not use it because the market comps were priced too low and I put a lot of emphasis on the cost approach. USPAP states when a property is unique, often the cost approach is the best method to use.The Realtors came back and asked me to use comps that were not even close to being comparable. Since I don't want to loose my appraisal license, I said I could not do what they wanted. The moral of this post is to tell other appraisers out there, don't let the Realtors pressure you into doing something that is not ethical. It's not worth losing your license. We work hard to get our appraisal license and often the agents simply don't understand the appraisal process. As an appraiser, I don't set market values, I simply interpret them.
Sara Goodwin
Estimation Nation Corporation - Portland, OR
Portland, Oregon Appraiser

Hi Scott -

I'm sending your post to Nick M to respond as he's going through something a bit similar right now (although it hasn't got to Underwriting yet) -

I have run across similar scenarios where the Underwriter is absolutely insistent that I use irrelevant sales in the grid - And I will... I will write a detailed addendum of how persistent they were, how the new sales in the grid mean nothing except that the client insisted on them and make it very clear that they were not taken into account (with detailed explanation as to why) and no value changes were made.  If they ask for pictures of the sales they insist upon to be added to the report, I will charge a re-inspect and/or travel fee and they will have to wait several days for the addendum.

It may sound harsh (the above), but in my reports, if there are sales that would appear in black and white to be good comparable properties, but in real life are not at all similar, I will write a statement as to why I did not choose those sales.

Also, I would certainly bracket if there are sales that might be superior and others inferior in the area but none (or few) that are similar.

Good luck - Sara

Jun 02, 2007 04:59 AM
Sara Goodwin
Estimation Nation Corporation - Portland, OR
Portland, Oregon Appraiser
Oh... and I didn't catch that it was the Realtor that was pressuring you... in that case, no - Absolutely no alterations to the report (unless the Realtor is your client).  But I have had Underwriters pull that.
Jun 02, 2007 05:02 AM
Nick M.
Certified Residential Appraiser- West Palm Beach Real Estate - West Palm Beach, FL
Realtor-Appraiser in West Palm-South Florida Real Estate Appraiser

Hi Scott.. welcome to Active Rain! :)  nice post. i'm still catching up on some reports, but i couldn't resist. i'll be brief.. f'em.
my license cost me a lot of groveling, drive time, inspections, bs, unpaid reports and too much more to mention. hey yo, it is what it is.

dont cave in brother.. we are in the same boat.

and yes, comps are comps, when none are available, i tend to lean to the cost approach also. if you have accurate land values and the building isn't too old, its the most accurate approach. that is, when the SWAG approach is not implemented.

i 'm also a Realtor(r), and no offence to others, but the license is too easy to get. this reeeeltor obviously doesn't know USPAP, and doesn't care about your license. ignorance is bliss.. and my PDF is locked.

later gator

ps. today i turned down $1,200 for 2 assignments that dont make sense. i'm not risking my license dude. no way Jose..

ps. I like Sara's approach of including it all in the addendum, with plenty of juicy a details. i think she is an anarchist!! i dont even make the change. I have not been challenged by an underwriter, and i will reply to them someday.. in writing and no comps that i dont feel are appropriate. back to the report..

 

Jun 02, 2007 07:24 AM
Scott Runtzel, MRP, SCREA
Monterey County Appraisal Services & Open House Realty (831) 224-3793 - Monterey, CA
Appraiser/Broker/REALTOR
Yes, they were real estate agents trying to get me change the report. I talked with the Certified General I work with and a few other appraisers and there was no way we could do what they wanted. I'm probably on their blacklist but oh well. I find that real estate agents (a lot of them) simply have no idea what is involved in doing a proper appraisal, keeping it ethical and just basically giving a true and honest opinion of value.
Jun 03, 2007 06:58 AM
Elaine Liz-Ramirez
ERA Advantage Realty - Sebring, FL
MAI

 

Scott,

Funny that you posted this.  Right now I'm doing an analysis of 160+ acres with a 3-year-old home in excellent condition.

I relayed to the lender that the acreage is a high percentage of the value.  Another words the land value ratio is extremely high.  Historically, lenders liked to see 40% or less in the land.  Well..... this is certainly higher than that.  Their risk is truly in the land.

I am using the Cost Approach only.  It's most reliable!  I would like to see these agents go to their doctors and offer a self-diagnoses in order to get the meds "they think they need!".  Why should we be any different that those other professionals.  GOOD FOR YOU!  WE NEED MORE LIKE YOU!

 

 

 

Jun 04, 2007 04:20 PM