Okay - those who know me know that I never write a political post, but this one is as close as I've ever gotten.  I have no objection to paying taxes on my earnings, and in fact, if it would help the California economy, I would have no objections to raising my taxes a bit, but as someone who receives her income sporadically, and will never have a salary that stays relatively constant throughout the year, I do have a concern about one budget provision that our state legislature is proposing - mandatory withholding on my handing over moneycommissions. I also have a small direct selling business, and There would have to be withholding there too.

The California Legislature recently passed a budget bill that contains a 3% independent contractor withholding provision on earnings in excess of $600. I have not yet read the actual text of the law, but everything I have read makes no exception for real estate sales commissions.

The Good News: Governor Schwarzenegger vetoed the bill as he continues to insist on a comprehensive budget deal rather than addressing the budget issues through a variety of piecemeal bills. While this is good news, it doesn't address my concern, which is that my expenses continue all year, while the income comes in clumps, with nothing between.  This means that there may be times when I am working n the red and need the next commission check in full in order to stay on the level.  Then the next check will put me ahead and hopefully cover everything until another comes along. 

Also, having run small businesses with employees, I know that there are different charts for those getting regular paychecks and those who get occasional checks.  Those paid occasionally have a higher withholding.  That is why sometimes if you have ever gotten a bonus check on a job you will notice that a large chunk of it is withheld for taxes.  Sure, it means that we will get a big refund check next year, but I need the money now.  I'd rather pay it next year. 

dollar shockWhen legislators return from the holiday weekend, they will again be faced with balancing the budget.

We need to make it clear that independent contractor withholding should not be included in the final budget deal.

Please reach out to Governor Schwarzenegger and thank him for his veto and ask that he VETO any other bill or budget package that contains withholding on direct sellers.

Please contact the Governor and tell him (in your own words) that:

  • You are working hard to build your own small businesses (which is what each of us do as Realtors). You decide what homes to sell and set prices (and determine your commissions) and your own hours. You alone know your business expenses and income. As such, you are responsible for calculating your own taxes.
  • The real estate industry has a high level of compliance for tax collection. Therefore, this burden is unnecessary.
  • This new requirement creates a significant new bureaucratic layer of red tape, adds an unnecessary cost to doing business in California for each of us and for our managing brokers, and represents another blow to the state's struggling business climate.
  • You oppose income tax withholding on independent contractors. No other state imposes this requirement.
  • We respectfully urge you to VETO any proposal that contains withholding and suggest that California exempt real estate salespersons and other direct sellers from this requirement and protect these smallest of small businesses.

I do realize that something drastic must be done to fix California's financial woes, but our indsutry has taken a harder hit than many, we have been working hard to help right the housing mess, and now we are being asked to make what amounts to interest-free loans to the government in order to further fix the state.  I just hope Gov. Schwartzenegger and our legislators will forget this idea - and not just because it is a separate bill, but because it would work an undue hardship on many of us whose income is unreliable.

Do any of you in other states have taxes withheld from your commissions under your state laws?  As independent contractors, we have always simply gotten a 1099 and it is our responsibility to pay our taxes - our managing broker does not have to do it for us.

 
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11 Comments on Do you want taxes withheld from your commissions?

JUL
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As long as they don't issue the refund with an IOU, I might not mind.  It's sort of like having property taxes put into your mortgage - at least you know the money will be there when the bill comes due

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I don't think he would take me seriously being in New jersey!  Good luck getting your voice heard and standing up for the commission based earners in California!  Happy 4th.

8:44pm • #2

Love the dollar bill with Washington's face as it would be if he could see what's going on in our nation right now!! LOL!  I hope you get to keep your hard-earned money!!  So many changes being shoved down the pike right now. Good luck!!

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Hi Susan:

I hear some talk in NJ about the same...

Good luck with your fight against this.

9:43pm • #4
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I hold you win because what seems to happen there eventually comes our way. I have been selling a few homes to people moving here from California. If I lived there I would get out before they close the borders.

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Oh that sucks, I would be pissed about that. The way taxes are suppose to work is you should break even and not get large amounts back at the end of the year. The government makes money off the american people because they think it's better to get the large tax break. I like my control of when to pay 

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Susan, that doesn't sound so far off from another withholding provision by CA. Although, I don't necessarily disagree with this other withholding provision.

Non residents (of CA) with CA rental property will have $$$ withheld by the property managers if the owners don't show proof of having filed a tax return the previous year. I never even thought of NOT filing a return. Apparently there are some property owners who have not been filing CA tax returns.

But, back to your piece: how much different is this than quareterly estimated payments?

10:43pm • #7
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If you need the money now, increase your exemptions. My marketing guru taught me 15 years ago to use a spreadsheet to track my income and my expenses and adjust my exemptions and withholding allowances monthly if necessary. The spreadsheet also makes it very easy to do taxes at the end of the year. You can even claim no withholding taxes if you anticipate operating in the red for the year, even if marginally. I think it's better for me to have my money in my bank account earning interest and then pay whatever taxes I owe rather than letting the government keep my money and earn interest on it. Of course, if we all did that, our government might be even more broker than it is already.

11:29pm • #8
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You know, I think they will do this regardless.  Just like Cal-Frpta first affected out of state owners, than was enlarged to include California residents with investment property.  Clearly for the sole purpose of obtaining and holding the money until tax season.  They will win this one. 

I may not care for the idea, but at the end of the day, it will function like having an impound account on an FHA loan.   A rule we may not agree with initially, but come to like the convenience over time.  

 

2:30pm • #9
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I think California has solved its budget problem by issuing IOUs and now making those IOUs legal tender for payment back to the government. Hmmmmm. I thought states quit printing their own money way back around 1787.

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Every time I get a commission check I am continually amazed at all the money everyone takes out of it. Am I even working for myself anymore? And they want to take more?

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