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Goldman Sachs earmarks huge employee bonuses

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Goldman Sachs bites Uncle Sam's hand - New York (Fortune)

Since the impact of the global financial crisis quickly rippled through many of the bluest of "blue-chip" financial instituions I've been amazed at the way Goldman Sachs has conducted itself .... how this financial institution has exploited the American Financial System, treated American Taxpayers with utter contempt, and now, prepares to stuff its employees pockets with outrageous bonuses while thumbing its nose at the very people that helped keep them afloat.

Although apparently legal, Goldman Sachs' conduct is scandalous, immoral and shows a lack of any kind of integrity whatsoever.

I'm all for everyone making a profit if they work hard and deliver real service and good results. That's what Capitalism is all about. But when a company like Goldman Sachs uses it's tangled web of connections to take advantage of everyday Americans, we should all be up-in-arms and refuse to permit this to happen. Yet Goldman Sachs continues to get away with their outrageous behavior.

In March this year Goldman Sachs announced it would repay the bailout money it received from TARP far sooner than initially expected. By repaying these funds Goldman avoided the influence the government could have on employee compensation and bonuses. So no sooner did Goldman realize it was about to make huge profits it quickly repaid the TARP funds and prepared to pay out millions of dollars to its employees.

Goldman Sachs posted 2nd quarter profits of $3.44 Billion and immediately earmarked $11.4 Billion in employee compensation .... Why doesn't this bank rather boost its reserves to avoid the need for future goverment bailouts instead of immediately paying out these profits to employees? In effect Goldman used Taxpayer money to make profits and then turn that into employee bonuses.

Where do we draw the line between a lack of integrity and corporate corruption (the abuse of power)?

Rollings Stone's Matt Taibbi correctly asks: "Exactly how big would Goldman’s profits be this year, if they had to fill a still-extant $13 billion or even a $20 billion hole on its balance sheet from AIG’s collapse? You think it would still be $3.44 billion? What if Hank Paulson had elected to save Lehman instead of saving AIG/Goldman, how big would Goldman’s profits be then? Is anyone even asking this question?

Something is very very wrong with what's going on, yet no-one seems to have the authority or inclination to do something about this. Am I perhaps missing something here ....?

Comments(17)

Dinah Lee Griffey
Windermere Peninsula Properties - Allyn, WA
Managing Broker Windermere Peninsula Properties

It amazes me to see such selfishness. Why can't we just move on and do the right thing-Dinah Lee

Jul 18, 2009 03:25 AM
Kenneth Cole
Weichert Realtors Appleseed Group, 2043 Richmond Ave. S.I.N.Y. 10314. office phone 718-698-9797, Appleseedhomes.com... - Staten Island, NY
NYS Licensed Real Estate Salesperson

I would think that an inspector general might get fired if he/she blows the whistle.

Jul 18, 2009 03:33 AM
Dennis Chanski
Hebron, CT

Stewart,  you said, "Something is very very wrong with what's going on, yet no-one seems to have the authority or inclination to do something about this. Am I perhaps missing something here ....?"

I don't think that your missing anything, my feeling is that there are other interests involved, and those interests help dicate what happens.  The interest should be for the benefit of the people.  DAC

Jul 18, 2009 03:44 AM
Terry Haugen STAGE it RIGHT! 321-956-2495
Stage it Right! - Melbourne, FL

Just more of the same Stewart, screwing the little people all the way to the bank.

Jul 18, 2009 09:56 AM
Greg Saunders
WealthPoint Realty - Atlanta, GA

Hi Stewart:

It all was in the plan for these guys.  If you think about it who was the first to get the TARP money anyway?  Now ask yourself who did they pay out billions to after that.   I plan to do a post on these guys that should make some folks sit up in their seats when I tie together some of the characters.  I've just about completed my research. 

Jul 18, 2009 02:16 PM
Lane Bailey
Century 21 Results Realty - Suwanee, GA
Realtor & Car Guy

Maybe it would be different if the regulators weren't all alumni of GS...

Jul 18, 2009 04:58 PM
Debra Leisek
Bay Realty,Inc Homer Alaska - Homer, AK

There are no 2 ways about it .... it is wrong... and it is not getting any better anytime soon... 

Jul 18, 2009 08:08 PM
Paul Francis
Francis Group Real Estate - Las Vegas, NV
Las Vegas Real Estate Agent - Summerlin Homes

Stewart... You are missing something...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqGP3Oc5MOI

Enjoy more of the conflict of interest between D.C. and Wall Street. (Actually brilliant on Goldman Sachs part... take out your competitors and make massive profits with a loan from the taxpayers.)

Make sure you pay attention to the Cap and Trade part...

"We the People" in the Constitution no longer has the same meaning....

 

Jul 19, 2009 02:47 AM
Charlie Ragonesi
AllMountainRealty.com - Big Canoe, GA
Homes - Big Canoe, Jasper, North Georgia Pros

The former sec of treasury in the US Came from WHERE? Yes that's right so why are you surprised. However if they pay everything back according to the terms of the loan then I really do not see the problem. I do not have to like them but it is their business.

Jul 19, 2009 02:58 AM
Harry F. D'Elia III
WEDO Real Estate and Beyond, LLC - Phoenix, AZ
Investor , Mentor, GRI, Radio, CIPS, REOs, ABR

It is part of the culture on Wall Street. It is a different world where greed is good. Sign me up

Jul 19, 2009 03:00 AM
COMPASS PALM SPRINGS | Stewart Penn
COMPASS - Palm Springs, CA
COMPASS Palm Springs - Broker Associate

Paul - Interestingly enough a few weeks ago I drew out a similar chart to the one in the Glenn Beck video ..... and yes, once you connect the dots it get VERY frightening.

How can such an abuse of power be allowed to continue?

Charlie - You are missing the point here .... Paulsen (ex Goldman Sachs) abused his power and connections to directly benefit Goldman Sachs.

That's not arms length business. That's cronyism. That's corruption.

The only reason Goldman Sachs obtained the $10 Billion government loan was because Paulsen allowed Goldman to quickly become a "Bank Holding Company" which they weren't just prior to getting the $10 Billion.

That's a very fine line between what's legal and what's not!

Jul 19, 2009 03:06 AM
COMPASS PALM SPRINGS | Stewart Penn
COMPASS - Palm Springs, CA
COMPASS Palm Springs - Broker Associate

Harry - Didn't "Greed is good" belong in the 1980's with it's outrageous conspicuous consumption?

Jul 19, 2009 03:09 AM
Paul Francis
Francis Group Real Estate - Las Vegas, NV
Las Vegas Real Estate Agent - Summerlin Homes

Stewart... it's allowed to happen because "We the People" keep voting in people who listen to the cash registers cha-chinging with campaign contributions instead of the people who voted them in. (There is a reason why they are called "Representatives".)

Don't forget to remind Charlie that Paulson was instrumental in the decision to allow two of Goldmans biggest competitors to go under... and bailed out a black hole called AIG which eventually led to Goldman getting paid their 10 Billion + ... which Ironically... they probably used to pay back their loan. Meanwhile, the taxpayers are stuck with AIG which has already cost over $180 Billion or about $1,400 per American Household and counting...

Greed on Wall Street is one thing.. and that's just Wall Street so it should be no surprise. Greed generally leads to bad decisions which eventually cost you your business. Maybe Enron, WorldCom, etc.. etc... come to mind here in case anybody forgot.

Unfortunately though... the recent Greed on Wall St. was rewarded by their influences in D.C. and that's just flat out wrong.

In other words... the focus should be on D.C. -- not Wall St. Without D.C... this post concerning Goldman Sachs employee bonuses would never have been created.

Jul 19, 2009 04:06 AM
Mark MacKenzie
Phoenix, AZ

Good questions by Rolling Stone.

Jon Stewart just did a great bit on the Goldman earnings a couple of days ago.  It is an interesting paradox that during one of our countries greatest challenges that a company like this somehow can make these types of profits, just 9 months removed from a near collapse of the financial system.

Somewhere Paulson is smiling.

Jul 19, 2009 03:07 PM
Lane Bailey
Century 21 Results Realty - Suwanee, GA
Realtor & Car Guy

And now I find out that the company that owns a large stake in the Chicago Climate Exchange is a run by another former G-S guys...  Who owns the government...  Remember, CCX will be the official Cap & Trade market. 

Jul 19, 2009 04:19 PM
Terry Chenier
Homelife Glenayre Realty - Mission, BC

Stewart,

I read this too and I'm disgusted. Business as usual with these clowns.

Jul 19, 2009 05:31 PM
Anonymous
Georgia

Why is anyone surprised??  You shouldn't be.  Did you honestly get tricked so badly that you thought "honest politicians" were being elected?

We've got no one to blame, but the person in our mirror as we keep electing the same old dishonest politicians. 

Where are term limits?

Where are we when "our team" doesn't follow through with their campaign promises?  Most of us stand up for them anyway!  obama hasn't followed through with many of his promises at all, but I don't see anyone except the right calling him out on it.

The politicians have divided and conquered!  As long as the Left and Right are fighting against each other, the "elite" politicos can throw us some crumbs once and awhile and we'll be happy.

Do you see any of the politicians raising their hands to be get the healthcare they are shoving toward everyone else?  What about retirement (aka social security) do you see them fighting to get into that pot?  No and NO and you NEVER WILL. 

Jul 22, 2009 02:00 PM
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