I'm not saying that people that are personality challenged should neccesarily engage consumers in the lending arena.

When I called a lender recently, requesting a copy of our buyers good faith estimate, the response was shocking: "Get it from the buyer. I don't give those out (small talk) BYE." NO attempt to schmooze.

It seemed in better times that personality was key in the lending arena- great customer service usurped the need for solid competence, because everyone seemed to know that loans were a snap. Keeping a buyer updated, providing a degree of comfort (so that they didn't deflect with a better rate elsewhere) and providing updates to the Realtor contingent (hand raised) was a business-getter.

That this buyer was purchasing a bank owned property was the instigator of my introduction to a guy, known in the REO world as a great go to with a large bank name behind him, as a sure thing.

The buyer, after the initial meeting, was somewhat rattled- we encouraged a lender switch when his intial loan officer had the unfortunate happenstance of his company being reported in papers as engaging in a bit of recent fraud at a far-away branch, by a few undesirables. Not our guy, but his company. Better to move along, and use him next time around when he locates a better place to conduct business. Poor guy, but he'll be fine when he makes a change. When did this stuff start hitting so close to home anyway??

With respected mortgage companies? In this environment, expect the unexpected.

Our buyer went from an immediate connection with loan officer one to an experience with the second that provided, in his eyes, a cold encounter - but the buyer plugged onward while we wondered what this guy has that would make him come so highly recommended. A bit scary.

The transaction was flawless. Not a glitch; no issue other than me taking on the task of explaining points, rates, etc. to a buyer whose questions needed response- I can deal with that comfortably if it's a loan that as so many assured me, would close without a hitch, due to the capability of this guy, and his competence with bank owned issues from a lending side.

The final analysis was this, by another real estate agent that has worked with this person, doing many transactions: "THIS ISN'T A GUY THAT YOU'D WANT TO HAVE A BEER WITH, BUT HE GETS LOANS CLOSED."

It closed early- as promised, exactly when this guy told the buyer it would.

On time, no issues...I'll take it. But, what a market for those loan officers that can combine competence and personality...

 

12 Comments on You Wouldn't Want to Have a Beer With Him, But...

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I think that the entire industry has lost the *personality gene* of late!  Not their fault really; they are reacting the same as would anyone that is faced with pay cuts, or no pay at all; but are still having to lay out money for their business expenses!

Coldness, misdirected hostilities aka no return phone calls, or questions not answered just responses along the lines of "Put an offer in and we will let you know if...", calling for days just to set up appointments only to finally receive the return call but you've moved your client onto a differernt property, "Sorry I was just so busy" !?  "Busy"!?  In *this* market!?  Must be busy working a job that actually gives them a paycheck every week cuz by the statistics it sure isn't that the number of homes on the market for sale have decreased!

Everyone in the industry is stressed, and just don't know how to find the right outlet!  We really need to extend a hand and help one another through this!  Ask permission to VENT before letting it all out! You would be surprised how many really good people are willing to let you! 

Just remember to let them have their turn!  : )

8:02pm • #1
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Hi Laurie, I've dealt with some agents like that, zero personality. It makes me want to communicate with them strictly by email. But, like you said if the guy gets the job done, that's what we really need right now.  By the way, I grew up on Long Island and have fond memories of going to my Aunt's house in Southold and playing on the beach.

8:23pm • #2
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Eilean, as much as I've heard lately with regard to loans not closing on time, or at all, makes me realize that a catch is a catch- recognizing that those less able to fully communicate doesn't negate their competence. True, your thoughts- stress is most definitely the primary feeling right now for most. Thank you!

8:26pm • #3
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Jen, we live in Southold- it's a wonderful place to be (and have a beer with those that are fun to have a beer with- maybe we should invite this guy out to visit- nah). But, he is our new certainty, in a less than certain market.

8:27pm • #4
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He can't give you a buyer's good faith estimate.  You have to get from the buyer.  He right even though really rude.

6:10am • #5
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Miriam, we've had some (with permission from the buyer) have no problem with it- in this case, he didn't even offer the "buyer permission" spiel, just, a really...perfunctory response! Made us pretty nervous throughout the course of the transaction, particularly when the buyer was a bit uneasy asking what he thought would be perceived as "stupid" questions, but getting the loan done without a single hitch or repeated submissions was amazing!

Kris (below): makes me almost respect them more- for them to achieve the "best in the business" status with challenged people skills is pretty remarkable!! I'd stick with your inspector, too.

6:23am • #6
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This reminds me of a home inspector here in my area.  NO personality. NO warm and fuzzines towards the buyer clients.  Mumbles throughout the inspection to himself.

But..he is one of the best darned home inspectors I've ever encountered!!

6:32am • #7
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Laurie,

I am always concerned IF they are brash or rude with me, they will be with the client once they get the loan underway. No thanks. I'll take nice and friendly with competance.

 

8:23am • #8
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Missy, fair enough- we all have to make choices based on our own internal compass, and the ideal situation is certainly as you describe. I was pretty nervous when the first contact w/the loan officer appeared to rattle the buyer, but the initial personality plus loan officer found himself with a much more significant issue that REALLY rattled all of us! What a market we're in, huh?

8:55am • #9
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Laurie, I can actually remember when people had personalities along with their knowledge.  They were courteous, friendly AND knew what they were doing.  I'm not sure where they went, possibly off this lovely Island.  I'm glad it closed well, though.

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Carole, I think that it goes back to the first comment re. an underlying stress right now- even the best-personality loan officers are severely challenged with a changing environment. The focus is on competence, and the rarity of a really, really good person who does what they say, navigating changes and remaining a step ahead. It isn't that standards are lower- in fact, they're higher for this part of the transaction.   For buyers, already spooked, having a large dose of certainty is paramount. Residual damage from an industry that was handed "the underhanded" legally is a big hurdle to overcome- actions speak louder than words- opinion, of course. It's not just here, it's got to be everywhere, don't you think?

This guy probably pulls his hair out every night over frustrations, but we would never know it because verbose is most definitely not his thing. Thank goodness- he's to the point, direct, gets it done- warm and fuzzy isn't his thing. Knowing this up front is a good thing for those needing more warmth.

8:49pm • #11
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It boggles my mind how some people in a people business can have the personality of a handball.

I'm going out on a limb here and thinking you'll never call or refer that loan officer to any of your clients.

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Southold, NY

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