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                                                Safety Steps for Women Realtors - Don't Make Yourself a Target!

I have not been in the Rain for a while.  After being gone for a while I have to tell you,  what I really want to do is write about how my daughter just took the honors of top student web designer in the nation.  But I felt this was more important.  Oddly enough, there have been many times I started writing this but it just seemed there was always something else more important.  Then it became to close for comfort . . .  .

Women Being assultedWhether we want to admit it or not, women are sometimes at a serious disadvantage.  It has nothing to do with knowledge about the intricacies of real estate.  It has nothing to do with the fact that we have to take time off to have babies.  Women, I believe, are pretty much equals with men in real estate with one huge exception.  It was the way God created us, but we are smaller and for the most part will never have the power that a man has.  Unfortunately, there are men out there in the world who will exploit that weakness to their advantage.  I let my guard down last week but ,by the Grace of God, a mistake kept me safe when I believe it could have been horrible.  This is my story.

I have been really busy and I took a call and made an appointment to show one of my listings and continued on with what I was doing without missing a beat.  But I should have slowed down to think about what I was doing.  I AM smarter than this and I have always been really careful, but it didn't even sink in that it was a man by himself.  It didn't even dawn on me to be worried about--it is Hudsonville/Jenison for crying out loud.  Paul Harvey has even reported our area to have the highest number of churches per capita than any other area in the nation.  I am still usually much safer but I was on warp speed mode.

The next day rolled around and I was suppose to meet him at noon.  As I went to walk out the door, I told my son if he wanted a ride to work then he better hurry up and come with me and I would drop him on the way.  We were halfway to his work when I realized I had done it again, thought he had to be at work at noon when he is actually suppose to be there at 1 pm--he missed it to.  So I told him to come with me on my appointment which wasn't that far away.  Now normally he would be driving as he needs drive time, but this time he was sitting in the passenger seat.

We got there at about 5 minutes before noon and pulled into the parking spot in front of the house which was parellel to the road but kind of at an angel. . .  .and we waited . . .and waited . . and waited.  At around 12:15 a guy went by the house slowly and was really rubber necking it--leaning across the seat and looking really hard at the house--or so I thought!  Truthfully, I just thought wow he is really interested in this house.  The house sits about 200 feet off the road so with the angel and everything, he didn't see me watching him.  He could only see my son.  I didn't really think that much about it.  We waited until 12:30 and left--I haven't had a no show in years.  Still oblivious to what had just happened.

When I got back to my desk I called the seller to apologize that she and her family had to leave for no reason.  She asked me when I had taken the call to show the property and I said, "I don't know, sometime yesterday am".  She said there was a vehicle that was stopped in the front of the house talking on the phone at right around 10.  I said, "oh, what color was the truck".  There was  a long pause and she said, "Tami I didn't tell you it was a truck".  Serious chills ran down my spine.  "Oh dear Lord ," I said, "please don't tell me it was a red truck".  She confirmed that it was.  I felt sick to my stomach.  "Did it have a red matching topper?"  Long silence . . . ."yeah it did". 

I hung up the phone and with dread, pulled up the phone number he had given me and called it and listened to the computer voice tell me how this phone was no longer in service.  Dear God in Heaven . . .he had driven by and seen a man with me and had kept going . . . .he had planned on me being alone.  I knew it and my seller knew it.  I called the police and told them what happened and they asked me if I had taken the plate number.  I hadn't because it hadn't dawned on me what was going on until long after I had left.


I let my guard down and I shouldn't have.  Let's face it, most Realtors can't afford to give up a client and that includes women.  But, I have had a plan that I have adhered to for years. . . and I slipped.  I would not have been prepared if I had been in a bad position.  My first plan is to have someone come with me.  When I can't find someone, I have a plan in place that is pretty thorough and I would like to share it with you.

#1.  Find out what you can about him before you meet him.  Where does he work, where is he staying.  Call and verify that what he tells you is true.  Believe me, when you call businesses and explain you are a women and wanted to verify who this man is, they commend you for not being  . . .well . . . .stupid.  Even better, ask who he is pre-qualified with and get their phone and information and call and verify that he is working with them.  I know many of you will say they should be pre-qualified before you even meet them.  On this I disagree,  but I don't want to debate that right now with this post.  I have called several companies when people say they just moved here for a new job--not once have I had anyone refuse to let me know that he did work there or he did have an appointment.

#2.  Before the appointment, call him and ask him for his drivers license number, plate number and the make, model and year of his car.  I have only had it one time that they refused and I had a creepy feeling anyway about him.  Most men are impressed that I am on my toes and thinking.  Tell him you will verify it when you meet.

#3.  Plan ahead and have someone who is keeping track of where you are and what homes you are showing and the addresses of all of them.

#4.  Do not ever meet your male clients in a secluded place If you don't know that exact area, pull it up on Google maps and look at the aerial picture.  It will tell you a lot about if the home is secluded or in a subdivision.  If it is in a secluded area, meet them in a busy parking lot first.

#5.  Carry pepper spray.  Keep it in a pocket but don't put it on key chain so they see it--it takes away the surprise advantage.  You can buy it anywhere on line.

Car Opener#6.  Keep your keys in your hand.  Hold one key through your fingers so if you punched, it would stab.  You should also make sure you have a panic button for your car that will make the alarm go off by pushing a button.

#7.  Have a secret text you can use with your point person to let them know if you are in trouble and a different text if you are ok.  My text that someone sends me 15 minutes after I am suppose to meet him is, "what did you do with the key".  If I text back, "I left it under the flower pot" they know I am ok.  If I don't text back within five minutes, they call the police.  If I know I am in trouble, I text back, "it is under the garbage can".  From there I have to text every 15 minutes.  The next text that my point person sends is, "the key isn't there".  If I am ok then I text back, "check both flower pots".  You get the idea.

#8.  When you arrive at the appointment.  Verify his info, then take his picture and a picture of the vehicle and text it to your point person.  They should be waiting for this.  If they don't get your  info, they immediately send the secret text.  If you don't respond or respond the wrong way, they immediately call the police.

Is this fool proof?  I am sure it isn't-- nothing really is.  But, this sure puts us in a better position!

Pass this around, print it, reblog it, copy it in any way you want.  You never know what women you might save!

THIS IS AN ADDITION AS I THOUGHT IT WAS GOOD INFORMATION

Dawn Maloney had some good advice:

Check out their name on www.pipl.com, google.com or 123people.com - she actually kept herself from showing a serial rapist a home by doing this.  Thank you Dawn!!

Brian Block said:

I'd highly suggest to you, and all women (and men) to read the book "The Gift of Fear" by Gavin de Becker. I can't recommend it enough. This book will change your perspective on the world and make you more aware of your surroundings and how you can prevent dangerous situations.

 
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133 Comments on Safety Steps for Women Realtors - Don't Make Yourself a Target!

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Tami, first, congratulations to your daughter.  What she accomplished is absolutely amazing!  If she has a portfolio online I would love to view it.

I don't know where to start with your post - I had chills reading it, so grateful that you are ok and no harm came to you, and also wanting to shout out at everyone along with you on the dangers of meeting strangers for the first time at a home viewing.

I probably have lost a lot of business over the years by doing this, but here goes:  I never EVER meet someone for the first time at a home if they came to me via a "I saw the sign" call.   A referral from someone is one thing, a lengthy email exchange is acceptable also.  But if someone calls off a sign and says they want to see it I need them to come to my office first.  If they are unwilling to do so I give them to another agent (male).  

Thank God your son was with you.

7:33am • #1
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you post highlights a sad reality in our business. It is not a common occurance but that is little comfort to a victim. Good post and great information as well as a reminder to be vigilant

7:34am • #2
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Scary. Im a lucky girl as my husband meets me on any outside appointments. Its our rule. If they come to the office we require an ID to be left with our broker to go out and show homes. Safety first.  

7:53am • #3
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Your post has made me realize that I do not take enought precautions.  Thank you.

Congratulations to your daughter.  You must be very proud.

7:57am • #4
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Egads, Tami.  Sounds as though you may have "dodged-a-bullet" (maybe literally!).

8:36am • #5
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I am so glad you are safe!  I just got a call from one of my guy friends who wants me to accompany him to a showing of one of his listings.  Imagine me protecting him!  I have whatever that spray the police carry....its not pepper spray, but OC spray or something like that.  I definite need to put more safeguards in place.  You can never be too cautious.

9:28am • #6
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Tami-Holy cow!  Thank goodness for the work schedule of your son!  So glad you are safe and all is well.  Keep an eye out for that truck!

 

   

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Very good to have this brought up from time to time in the Rain.

Thank goodness your son was with you. We must be careful even in small, safe communities.

12:14pm • #8
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Very well written feature. This should be posted in every office. With your permission, I will send this to my fellow agents here in Akron Ohio. Thank you and I am so happy you and your son are safe, please stay that way.

12:25pm • #9
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One needs to alert to surrounding anytime, anywhere.  Things can happen anytime. Glas you are ok.

Patricia Aulson/portsmouth nh

12:26pm • #10

Well written Tami. It is always good to keep your personal safety in mind. The real estate business these days is making us all work harder for that listing or sale. We are eager to meet new buyers and get a deal put together.

I have dropped my guard a time or two also. Thank heaven nothing happened. I am armed with pepper spray, a knife, keys (as you described) and the willingness to fight an attacker. Some realtors here in our state also have Concealed Handgun permits too. There are areas around Portland that are not safe. That is true in most large cities I guess these days.

Glad you are safe and that your Guardian Angel was watching out for you - I don't think it was an accident that your son was with you that day.

12:46pm • #11

We need to be reminded of this every so often. I printed out copies of this blog for our female agents.

We have policies in place for showing property to new and unknown clients -  the first being that they must come to the our office before they are shown any property. If we don't know them, then we get a copy of the driver's license and a list of where the agent is taking them. We follow up with phone calls to the agent while they are out to make sure everything is OK.

In spite of all the warnings, there are still some agents who think they can handle any situation. We once had on staff a former policewoman who had made arrangements to meet a new male client at some wooded acreage about 20 miles away. When she was told that it was against company policy to do this, her response was, "I have a gun in my purse and I'm not afraid to use it!"

Gun or no gun, she didn't go to her appoint,ent alone.

 

12:50pm • #12
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Tami...Congrats to your daughter on her accomplishment and thank God you are okay!  The only thing I want to add here and don't just be cautious of men.  A few years back in my area we had a woman that would call and make the appointment and the agent went out and she had two men who hid until she got the agent in the house and they came in an attacked.  It was truly sick and scary!  We can never be too careful.  I met an agent (no longer in the business since the attack) that met someone at a vacant house and was stabbed repeatedly.  Just standing face to face with her and hearing her tell me the story sent chills up my spine and still does when I think about it.  No commission check is worth an agent's life!!!  So glad you are safe!!!

jeani

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Hi Tami. I'm glad you're safe. In the Tampa Bay area a few years ago a female agent was attacked. Fortunately they found the perpetrator.

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Oh . . . that's a lovely picture.  If it would be me, my hands wouldn't be clutching my purse like a scared little bitty.  They'd be firmly planted between the guy's leg clutching his family jewels -- providing he had any.

These people are COWARDS.  Trust your gut, if you sense something you can "flight or fight" 

When I was younger and took the bus to/from work, one evening I had to lock up.  Rode the bus home, and had to walk 1/2 mile home.  I heard something in the bushes.  For some reason I remembered hearing something about 'acting crazy' if you think someone's following you.  It throws them off . . . and no one wants to deal with a lunatic.

I was scared, but I continued walking and then starting acting odd.  Mumbling to myself, jerky motions . . . not acting 'scared' but  . . . deranged.  This was done to save myself.  Apparently, it worked and at 19 I wasn't a rape victim.  The boogey man in the bushes left me alone.

Don't panic . . . act tough . . . or nuts!

Plus . . . SCREAM!!

I taught my 22-year old son, at a young age, to SCREAM and yell "You're NOT my DADDY" or "You're NOT my Mommy" if anyone tried to abduct him.

SCREAM -- USE YOUR WORDS "HELP ME!!  CALL 9-1-1.   I'm BEING ATTACKED!! 

Ladies . . . RINSE and REPEAT

HELP ME -- CALL 9-1-1 -- I'm BEING ATTACKED.

I refuse to live in fear, and on the days when I'm a tad . . . street rat crazy . . . I would feel sorry for someone who tried to harm me!

You can't rely on your son, and it's unfair for him to always be your body guard.  Don't try to sell your own listings might be good advice too and don't meet male clients at the property . . .

 

2:10pm • #15

Tammy,

 

Fortunately you are OK. It is a good reminder for everyone out there.

2:12pm • #16
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Wow, that is scary.  I just went to the safety store last week to puchase some pepper spray to carry in my pocket.  They also had personal alarms that cost only $6 that made ear piercing sounds at the touch of a button.  I might go back and get one of those.

2:13pm • #17

Tami, Glad your safe. Creepy story. Great reminder for us all. Thank you for sharing it with us.

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Very scary story but an excellent reminder to always keep safety in mind!  And this is really not just about women - here in Washington state some years back a healthy fit man was killed by a client.  I also want to just underscore the "trust your gut" advice - way better to be embarrassed by being a little cautious when all turns out to be fine than to chance ignoring that little self-preservation voice in our heads when something just seems off. 

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Tami,

You can't repeat these warnings and cautions enough...too many weirdos out there...!!! Thanks,   Fran

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Tami, I'm thrilled you're back and this is such an excellent post!  The more I have been reading the more careful I am about EVERYTHING.  I hope that realtors can work in twos or start taking another person along and even in my business I've had a few very odd calls.  I'm more careful now then ever and hope everyone is taking precautions.

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Tami,

I'm very sorry to hear about that scary situation you were able to avoid. Thank God that you were kept safe that day and your son was able to assist in warding off anything that may have happened.

In Texas, quite a few agents carry a firearm - women are put in a predicament, however, because we normally wear fitted clothing which makes concealing a weapon to conform to the law pretty difficult. And taking a purse into a showing is out of the question here.

Thank you for the post. Chilling, but a great reminder.

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So glad you are safe, and that does give me the chills. There was just a Realtor who was stabbed in Southern California while showing a home. So sad.

4:41pm • #23

One thing we do is always meet our clients at our office and if needed get a copy of their drivers license. Stay safe!

5:04pm • #24
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You never know who you are meeting - check out the name on www.pipl.com or google.com or 123people.com...once I was asked to show houses by a serial rapist. I didn't go because I checked first, following my gut. If something doesn't feel right, don't ignore your feelings.

Precautions of going with a person you know, meeting at the office first, safety signals, etc. are crucial. You will NEVER be sorry you have them in place. I would also add, do not sit opens alone.

I'm glad you are ok!!

5:10pm • #25
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Tami:  This line of thought and protection should also be extended to all those women sitting in "Model Homes" across our country ... alone and unprotected.  For a period of time prior to the housing downturn, my wife worked as a sales consultant in such a development.  During the long daylight hours of summer when construction is busier and it was more likely there was business/sub-contractor traffic in the sales office, there did not seem to be as large a concern.  But during the shortened daylight hours of winter time, it became especially more dangerous.

These women sit in these houses for extended set hours and preditors know that.  After a very disquieting encounter where someone approached my wife, acted inappropriately, and extremely suspiciously, I asked her to quit the job.  It just would have made me terribly uneasy if she would have continued her employment after such an occurrence.

You are right, Tami.  Female broker/realtors, because of physical vulnerability, must always be aware, prepared, and vigilent in more ways then men.  Brokers must remember to stress this to their female staff members and realtors  ... but builders must also be called upon to offer and take measures to provide safe and secure environments to work in for their female employees. 

Remain safe ...

5:27pm • #26
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Tami, lesson learned and do be careful and great safety tips. Your photo in the post is scary enough for me.

6:22pm • #27

Always stay near a door and never let a person get behind you. Keep your head up!

Ryan
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Tami,

It's been a long time since I've seen you.  I would say your angels were working overtime to keep you safe.  It's something I think about too, but have gone to the occasional vacant house to meet a customer I've never met before.  I usually rely on my gut feeling, but it's risky.  One wrong instinct can lead to unthinkable results.  I'm so glad your son was with you.  Time to get some deterrent and keep it close at hand.

On a lighter note, wonderful news about your daughter.  What a fortuitous choice for her mom.

8:12pm • #29
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Tami - This was a much needed post because I think so many agents get blinded by the potential paycheck and let their guard down.  I've always been on high alert and never meet a buyer at a property.

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Truly scary story.  So glad your son was with you.  I would like to remind others that we should all take precautions at open houses also. I will not do an open house alone.  A few years ago, the only time I was alone for a short while, a visitor came in and made me feel so uncomfortable, I had to step outside on the front porch.  Fortunately, at that moment, another visitor arrived. We went into the house and the unwelcomed visitor quickly left. It could have just been me, but I don't take chances.

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OMG - I am so glad this got featured.  I was praying that it would-someone needs to read this!!  Re-blog it-post it--copy it--hang it on your office walls. 

I will come back in the am to respond individually . . .I am sneaking on the computer right now .  .shhhhh . . .my husband just said, "enough already with that d%$n computer . . . but he just went downstairs to raid the cupboard . .  .lol

9:10pm • #32

Your Guardian Angel was definitely watching over you with the time mix-up for your son. So glad you're safe.

Our Board offers a very good Safety class where we get to practice hitting and learning how to use convenient tools (big, thick sturdy pens) to fight off the attacker until we can run. The class is taught by a Sheriff's deputy.

9:15pm • #33
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Wow Tami it sounds like you were very lucky and had your guardian angel looking over you. I am sure this will change how you do things.

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Thank goodness you are ok - -it could have turned out differently --- we always show in situations like this together -- there is more safety in numbers.

10:26pm • #35
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A lot of good advice.  Things happen.  My sister had a friend who was killed in a model home.  We may insult some people, but the majority will understand.

11:56pm • #36
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Tami, I am so happy that you are safe and it sounds like you generally have a good plan for making sure that things like this don't happen.

While my wife is not in real estate (she's a ballroom dance teacher), she would often come home late late at night and have to walk through a dark parking lot to her car.  About a year ago I got her signed up to take martial arts and self-defense classes which I've been training in for over 3 years.

I'd highly suggest to you, and all women (and men) to read the book "The Gift of Fear" by Gavin de Becker.  I can't recommend it enough.  This book will change your perspective on the world and make you more aware of your surroundings and how you can prevent dangerous situations.

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THANK YOU FOR ALL THE CONGRATS ON MY DAUGHTER!  I PROMISE MY NEXT BLOG WILL BE ABOUT IT!

Kris-I tsounds like you have a good process at hand to follow also!  Gotta keep us safe here in Michigan ;~)

Charlie - It is a very sad reality isn't it!!

Laura- My husband or my son usually goes with me also if it is one of these situations.  Every once in a while though my husband is working or my husband is in school.

Irene - I am so glad-then this post was written for you!

Alan - I really think I did- it was creepy that is for sure!

Ann - That is very different-am kinda curious on that one!

Debra- It was very thankful that I messed up the time again!

Missy - I couldn't agree with you more-I knew it had to have been written about before  but there is always someone who hasn't seen it!

David - Anyone can do anything they want with it to get the word out!

Patricia - I couldn't agree with you more!

Kris - I didn't even think of carrying a knife - I have a couple of really small jack knives I carry in my saddle bags- I think I will grab one!

Mike - I think Ms. Police WOMEN needs to understand she is still a women - God didn't go "oh I making her a policewomen so I will make her as strong as a man".  That is just crazy.  I don't think I would even go out somewhere secluded without someone!

Jeanie - You are absolutely right - but I have thought about that also!

Lana - I also have a friend who is a Realtor who was rapped in an open house.

Carla - My son doesn't do it very often but after this happened he told me he would go anytime I wanted him to!  Glad you avoided a bad thing also!

7:06am • #38
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Oliver - I think we all need reminding occasionally - I know I sure do!

Christine - Wow that is really cool - I don't think we have a safety store here in Michigan!

No name - Glad I am safe also!

Nancy - We had a male realtor shot by a client not even a year ago.  About 10 miles from my home!

Fran - Way too many!

Carole - I agree that we should start working together!  I have a few mail realtor friends that I can call if my husband or my son is not available.

Ashley - I don't think I would want to carry a firearm - number one they are too heavy but there are just too many things that can go wrong!

Sharon - That is so sad.  I feel for their family!

Pete - than sounds like a really good idea too - I work more out of my home so I am never in the office.

Dawn - You bring up an excellent point and I am going to go back and add that to this post!

Gene -  I hadn't thought about that but you are absolutely right!

Gary - Yes - very much lesson learned!

Ryan - that is a very good point!

Geri - It has been a long time - life got a little out of control.  Don't just rely on your instincts - put some safety in your plan.

Michelle - I know many are blinded but some simply can not afford to give up a sale - I know I am one of them but I would never sacrafice myself for it.

Barbara - I couldn't agree with you more - I had a friend rapped in an open house!

Elaine - Our board does not and I wish they would!

Bill - Here is the sad thing- I never do this - I let my guard down and wasn't paying attention - never again!

Bob and Carolin - you are lucky that you have each other!

Christine - I could care less if I insult them!

Brian - I will go back and put your recommendation in!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

7:24am • #39

Good post.  Another tip: use Social Networking (primarily Twitter & Facebook) to advise your friends of the address you're going to, name of client, driver's license number, etc.

It's a great day here on the lake in Reston...hope it's a great day wherever you are, too!

Allen F. Hainge, CRS
9:05am • #40
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Wow - scary. Here in Austin we have had severeal incidents especially at open houses. We have started keeping wasp spray at open houses - shoots farther and has a better accuracy plus it doesn't look to out of place. Thank you for sharing this!!!

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Realtor safety is something we should all be more aware of. A few weeks ago there was a story about a Realtor attacked with a hammer - in the Realtor's office.

I can't document this statement and can't remember who the presenter was (aging is not fun) but I was at a Realtor meeting a year or so ago and the speaker quoted some stats that showed that male Realtors are attacked more often than women. 

Whether that's accurate or not, I do want to note that knives and guns are great gender equalizers. Maybe this doesn't sound too macho, but if somebody put a knife to my throat in the pose as in your picture, I would not be able to defend myself too well. 

Also, in the pic you used, the man appears to be smaller than the woman. :)

3:38pm • #42
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Great post, My wife is also an agent and I always worry when she has to show a property even though we take safety precautions. Thanks for the reminder because it is so easy to become complacent.

3:58pm • #43

Safety awareness goes for all women (and men) RE agents, Realtors , others who are travelling to listings to meet prospects or tradespeople - Unless you know the person, you need to meet them at your office first. Let someone know where you are headed. Leave the pointy-toe shoes at home. Back into the driveway, if possible.  Don't assume that caller is going to sign a contract that minute.  Don't expect the "Client" (Here in CA the client is the seller, the prospect is the customer) to fork over their driver's license or sit still for a photo op!

Especially around those REOs.  Sometimes they're really occupied!

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4:00pm • #44
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a mistake kept me safe when I believe it could have been horrible. 

Hi Tami,

Great to see you.  I'm VERY happy that you're okay!  I hope you will post more often.

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Tami, Welcome back! I would much rather have read more about your daughter but I know you had to get this very important message out there! I, to, had chills when I read it and although I think I am careful it is a good reminder for me and one to share with my young daughter.

7:57pm • #46
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Hi Tami,

You've outlined some terrific points not only for female real estate agents but for males as well. Both sexes can be targetted for robbery, car theft, and so on. It's always best to take every prevention necessary and choose decisions carefully.

All the best,

-Keith

8:18pm • #47

Back again. Thought I'd share a couple of the things we learned in our Board's safety class. Here's a photo I took with the padding things we used.

  1. If grabbed from behind, lift your arms and go limp. Think about a toddler throwing a hissy-fit. They raise their arms and become like a limp rag and become dead weight. Think about how hard it is to get control of them when they act like that. This maneauver "may" allow you to slip out of the hold and run away. You may also be able to jam your elbow back into the stomach or groin in your downward slip-away movement.
  2. Buy a thick sturdy pen. When held in the palm of your hand the point can be a stabbling tool. Go for eyes, nose, throat. You can also jam it in the ear, but the Sheriff urged caution here as going in thru the ear can penetrate the brain and cause death. Check your local laws. In Ohio the "fight" must match the level of danger.
  3. However, the Sheriff said the first thing we should do when we think we're in danger is to put our hands out and in a LOUD voice, yell "STOP".
  4. The Sheriff wasn't as keen on the sprays because they are too likely to affect us, especially if there is any breeze. His emphasis was on helping us use the tools we're likely to have handy when we're "unprepared". Using our elbows, both backward and to the front was a big focus. We have more strength in our elbow and it helps accomodate our lack of strength, plus, can't be grabbed easily.

If your Board isn't offering these classes, ask them to do so. My Board does it in September when the NAR has its safety campaign.

8:23pm • #48
JUL
25
2009
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I'm so glad that your son was with you!!  How scary!  It is so easy to get busy and not think about safety first.  Great reminder for us all.

2:53am • #49
JUL
29
2009
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Hi Tami, The guy upstairs made sure your son was with you.  We need to keep safety in the forefront of our minds at all times.  Glad you were kept out of harm's way.

1:02pm • #50
JUL
30
2009

Great feedback! Education is key. Regarding pepper spray, know what you are carrying and have it accesible. Someone mentioned having what the police carry, not pepper spray, but OC. They are one in the same and what police carry. Make sure it is 100% OC (pepper spray) and make sure it is 2 million SHU's. You will find that info on the label along with the expiration date. Pepper spray is a natural product and won't cause lasting damage. The effects last 30-40 minutes- plenty of time for you to spray (in the "z" formation in their face and head area) and RUN!!! You must test it outside, before you need it.

I must disagree with the suggestions to hide pepper spray. I have been training agents on safety for over 14 years and selling pepper spray as long. Visibility is a deterent. Hiding it in your pocket to surprise them is not better than stopping them in the first place. There is a reason police officers have their guns, batons and pepper spray visible; accesibility and to serve as a warning of what you will get if you decide to engage try them.

Have your key ring, leather-like holster in hand, on your key ring. When people see it, they know what it is and will think twice about bothering you. They know it is accessible and that you could use it quickly. It is not out of the ordinary to see someone with pepper spray on their key ring in the regular course of a day. If they are legitimate clients, they will not think twice about the fact that you have pepper spray handy. If they are criminals, they are being put on notice. Always have your keys and spray in hand when walking to and from your car and when out and about. Have it handy when hosting open houses, as well.

1:42pm • #51
AUG
21
2009

Great post, but I know lots of women who are larger than lots of guys, so I think your advice, and that in the comments, is relevant to all people who typically work alone yet meet the public, especially when we meet the public in places that we might not be totally familiar with.

2:34am • #52
AUG
23
2009
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First and foremost....welcome back to the Rain!  You certainly have been missed.  I just read your previous post and now I see where you have been!  Thanks for posting this serious reminder about agent safety.  What a scary feeling that must have been for you!  Thank goodness you forgot what time your son was due at work.  Someone was definitley watching over you!

4:40pm • #53
AUG
29
2009
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Tami, Congrats go out to your daughter!  We have missed you and glad your back.  This almost happened to me a few years back, but something told me while I was waiting in the driveway of a vacant house at dusk.....to GO GO GO...  The next day our Board put out a member bulletin that another realtor in a couple counties away, was not quite as lucky.

BE SAFE! 

11:02pm • #54
SEP
01
2009
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Tami,

I actually hire my sons to go with me as my bodyguard.,  It makes us all feel much safer.  This job is full of the possibilities of danger.  BE AWARE!

I am so happy you did not become a victim to this man.

Ann

10:18pm • #55
SEP
02
2009
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Hi Tami,  Soo very glad that you are fine!  Wow, what a close call.. Yes this is a scarey situation.  I am going to try and read up, more on safety. thanks for sharing!

9:34pm • #56
SEP
19
2009

I work as a realtor and had the terrifying experience of being brutally attacked one evening shortly after answering a call requesting to view a nearby property. It was early evening and just starting  to get dark but I decided to meet my clients at the property on my way home. I reached the property got out of my car grabbed my attache case and walked through a narrow passageway to gain access to the main entrance. As I neared the end of the passageway I heard footsteps behind me, startled I quickened my pace to reach the property, as I reached the end of the passage two youths suddenly appeared in front of me blocking my way, politely I said excuse me and tried to pass them, thats when one of them pulled a switchblade, I was utterly terrified, I had read these stories of women realtors being ambushed and attacked but never believed it would happen to me. I was then grabbed from behind by a third youth whose footsteps I had heard he clamped his hand over my mouth to prevent me screaming. The other two grabbed my case and purse, I prayed they would now just mug me and leave me alone, however this was not to be, one youth repeatedly punched me in the stomach as the other held me from behind, I realised now these young thugs were out to beat me up, they let me drop to the ground and started kicking me all over my head and body. The nightmare finally ended when a car drew up close by and they ran off laughing as they went, what could of happened after I was beaten I try not to think about. I was hospitalised after the attack my nose and cheekbone was shattered and had twoo broken ribs. The Police believe the call I had recieved had been used to lure me into that passageway by the gang that attacked me and relied on a lone woman turning up, which is exactly what happened. Apparently they had used this tactic before on a saleswoman who they pounced on a few weeks earlier who they also brutally raped.

CHRISTINA
7:06am • #57
SEP
21
2009
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Christina what a horrible story!!  I hope you have recovered although I know it something you will never forget.  Thank you for sharing sucha difficult story!!

 

2:35pm • #58

Hi Tami you are welcome, just pray it helps to make other lady realtors/proffesional businesswomen aware they are vulnerable and possibly being watched by these low life thugs who think nothing of attacking lone defenceless women

Christina
6:07pm • #59
OCT
25
2009

Hi Tami,

Thanks for the great advice.  I am dedicating my blog to realtor safety this week (I'm a commercial broker in CT) and I came across your post.  I hope you don't mind that I included a link to your article. 

I am glad to hear you are OK! 

Best,

Rhonda

Rhonda Mesenbourg
5:49pm • #60
JAN
30
2010
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AMAZING POST! 

This article is A+

Safety is not stressed enough in the office!

Thanks,

Tom Davis

11:21pm • #61
JUN
22
2010
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We need a reminder that we need to have a plan...Your story was chilling...Your tips are great, I do some of this now, but it is eye opening to some of the other tips...Thanks for Sharing, Jen

1:05pm • #64
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Tami - very scary and good that your son was with you. I have had some strange calls lately myself.

1:06pm • #65
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I always cover my bases.  But I was at an open house one day and a single male walked in.  My instincts told me to take precaution, so I instantly opened the back door as an avenue of escape and while I was opening the door I was dialing a friend.  I wanted him to feel threatened by the fact that I was in the middle of a conversation with someone who knew exactly where I was.  He may have been a completely innocent prospect, but for some reason I felt a bad vibe, so I took heed.

1:08pm • #66
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Tami  You are very fortunate - I've been in this business and I am very conscious of my surroundings and suspicious calls

1:17pm • #67
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This is a very scary story and makes me think about the times that I have left myself open to bad situations. I think I need to rethink some of the things I do. I am also planning to start karate classes soon, just haven't gotten around to it yet but I think I will move it up on the priority list.

1:22pm • #69
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Tami,

 

Great to see you back here and congrats to your daughter.

Very scary indeed, thank heavens it turned out the way it did. If you have dumbells in your garage start using them. My sons laugh at my weight training but were amazed last week to see how much strength I have in my legs and I will not be afraid of kicking if I had to!

1:25pm • #71

We live in small town USA and take much of this for granted. We had an attach several years ago and now every year I go over what to do and what not to do as a reminder to all agents.  Open houses too can be a time when nobody is around - glad that you are safe and keep it that way.

1:33pm • #72
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How large is the population of the area you serve?

1:33pm • #73
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Oh my gosh CHRISTINA- I am crying, I know your pain. What an awful thing to go through. I feel so bad and yet you are so brave to retell your story so that other realtors will get a clue and STOP going places alone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND STOP TELLING THE WOLRD THROUGH TWITTER WHERE YOU ARE!!!!!!!!!!!

Tami, congrats on your feature, very worthy indeed. I am SO glad that you are safe. 

1:41pm • #74

This is a great reminder, and we have always preached to our agents, do not advertise your open house unless you are holding it open as a team, a few years ago we had a group that would target "open houses" by female agents.

Just last weekend I was holding an "open house" in my own neighborhood, so I did not even think about taking my pepper spray, and a person approached on a bicycle, looked around suspiciously before entering the house, I was very concerned at first and thought I had made a huge mistake thinking my own neighborhood was safe from this element, fortunately he was a buyer that just happened to be cruising the area on his bike.

Thanks again and congratulations to your daughter

1:44pm • #75
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Tami, I am glad you are safe, if you havent done this already, give the info to your local Board of Realtors so they can send out an alert... You can never be too safe.

1:45pm • #76
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Thansk for sharing this with us.  Sometimes we can let our guard down and it can prove to be detrimental.  I am so glad that God intervened the day you and your son were ahead of schedule

1:49pm • #77
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I once had a family member of an inmate at the prison my husband works at ask me to come and list her home.  Something about her being insistent about the time I be there struck me wrong and I didn't go, but looked up information on the house and the police showed up for my appointment.  There were 6 males there.  Glad I had a good gut instinct not to go to that appointment.  Listening to you "little voice" is always a good thing.

2:13pm • #78
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Wow Tami...you got lucky!!  Thanks for the chilling reminder that we do have to be careful!  I had my assistant with while I showed a home last week and I always say if I'm not back in 10 minutes, come get me...well I got to talking with the homeowner and literally my assistant walked right in and said "what are you doing!!".  It scared the homeowner even more than me, lol but I was glad she really listened!  It helps to have someone be accountable for your whereabouts too. 

2:14pm • #79
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Hey Neighbor ~ what a great post.  I recognized your post immediately because you're one of the top AR members in Ottawa, and I live here in Hudsonville!  I'm behind you by 2 spots and about a billion points!  LOL

What a blessing from God to have taken care of your safety, like a good Father ;), everytime I hear a story like just makes me smile.  I'm very glad you are safe. 

And I'm very glad I got to read your story and the safety suggestions, because it almost never crosses my mind.  But we do have one gal that works in GR and another coming aboard this month, and I will make it a point to share your post with them.  The extent to which you prepare is more than anyone has ever advised in any class; nonetheless very smart! 

I also read your Muskegon River camping conundrum ~ My, my, Mylanta!  Guess I can steer clear of that campground!

 

2:26pm • #80
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I am glad you are safe. There are no do-overs when it comes to safety, all agents, male and female, should take heed and take precautions. 

2:29pm • #81
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Tami,

thank you for this post, form the bottom of my heart. I live in a safe neighborhood now, and looks like I dropped my guard - I should be more careful in any p[art of town. Thank you for the reminder.

2:37pm • #82
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I have written on a related subject, that of the FSBO seller that is vulnerable and lets strangers into his/her home when he/she is alone. Would scare me to death if either of my parents were to do that. I give them some tips to minimize their risks, but in the end it is usually much safer to have a licensed agent in attendance. If you were not selling and someone pulled up in front of your home, would you just let them in and wander around? It is no safer to do when you are selling your home. Especially if it is a group of people asking to tour a FSBO home. So if you are selling your home by yourself, that is fine. I have no problem with it. But please take steps to make sure that you are safe while showing the home. Get family and friends to help you. Sadly, there are evil people out there just looking for the right opportunities to take advantage of the more vulnerable members of our society.

3:12pm • #83

Thanks for sharing... good plan... 

3:31pm • #84
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Tami - thanks you for being brave and sharing your experience with us.  I've re-blogged it on several Home Stager groups.  We try to stay aware as well! 

Everyone:  PLEASE tell your clients to hide that "block o' knives" that people like to keep out on the kitchen counter!  Dangerous!Julie

4:44pm • #85
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Why would you go without a loan preapproval? That eliminates a lot of this up front is my long term thinking. You had an angel in your path.

5:34pm • #86
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Tami, this is a very good post. Thank you for posting it, as none of us can be too careful. As you mentioned, women are more prone to these nuts, but I still take precautions. Depending on the situation, I am more ready for "trouble" than others. Usually your gut will tell you when something is wrong, but not always.

6:04pm • #87
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Tami, Thank God you are ok. You cannot take enough precaution to protect yourself. Always have the first meeting in a public area like a coffee place. Good tips and I love the texting tip.
8:13pm • #88
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You say you work out of your home, so you don't have an office.  Is that correct?  Or, does your broker actually have an office, and you just rarely go there?  If your broker does have an office, then, by all means, make sure you meet anyone from a sign call at the broker's office before showing any property.  Then, make sure others in the office see the person(s).  Better yet is to actually introduce them to a couple of people in the office.  You can say, "Hey Fred, this is so-and-so, and I am taking him out to look at the property on First Street.  I should be back in a half hour."

Like others have suggested here, you could also make a photocopy of their drivers' licenses, and give the photocopy to someone in the office to file.

I believe it is essential for anyone in this business to have a place of business where you meet with clients in an office setting.  If your broker doesn't have an office, then find a broker that does have an office.

Your broker should also have plans in place to be able to respond to emergencies whenever an agent is out in the field and calls in for help.

9:03pm • #89
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Thank you for sharing this post on Active Rain.  It is an important topic.

9:39pm • #90
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If you don't know who you're dealing with, man, woman or couple, at least take a photo of them and their vehicle and tag with your phone. Email it to the office, BEFORE you go inside the house.

10:36pm • #91
JUN
23
2010

We've probably all taken chances we wish we hadn't -- I had a listing appointment once that really creeped me out and I swore I'd never go someplace like that alone again -- remote location, no cell phone service in the area, had to use 4WD to get there.....then met with the guy alone and he was weird...NEVER AGAIN!!! I did sell the house though!

8:06am • #92
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Hi, Great post.  We all need to be smarter and listen to our gut as well.  About 15 years ago, I remember sitting at a vacant open house - no electricity - no phone.... After that I stopped doing open houses that were empty. 

If I get a creepy feeling when talking to someone over the phone, I will not meet with them alone.

If I'm in the office alone, I make sure that my cell phone is on me at all times.

You have a well thought out plan - we should all implement something like it!

BTW - looked at the www.pipl.com site recommended above.  WOW!

9:42am • #93

Thanks for the reminders! Another thought, shared with me by a colleague who was stalked -- if you are female, young and gorgeous, please consider NOT putting your photo on your signs. That's what attracted the stalker's attention...

10:14am • #94

Take the extra step and be aware of who you are meeting and your surroundings.  It is sad that this is how we have to do business but it is what it is!  Most car remotes now have a panic button on them.  It may give you the few seconds you need to get away.

10:30am • #95

We've had some incidents in our area so we always have a point person and key phrases. Can't be too careful.

10:35am • #96
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Tammi,

Your post is timely.  I too have been thinking I have been way to relaxed about this as well.  I do a lot of open houses....and I too am changing the way I approach that.

10:39am • #97

Your story struck home with me....I live and work in a resort area.  Last month, I held an Open House at one of my Premier Listings.  It was advertised and a sign was placed outside the week before giving day and time of the Open House.  I am a mature agent and have been doing this for a longggg time and have never been as frightened or felt my life threatened before.  Just as I was closing the house, a man appeared at the front door.  I instantly knew there was trouble.  I just felt it.  He came inside...I stood behind him, near the door. Immediately, he began arguing about the owners of the home. I recognized his ploy and agreed with him, all the while trying to remember all the safety cautions my Broker had taught us.  But...my cell phone was across the room.  I suggested he go down the stairs to see the media room, exercise facilities and garage.  He wanted me to come with him and I told him I'd had knee surgery and couldn't "do" stairs.  This allowed me to get my phone and get "outside" on the porch. My Sister called to check up on me...thank God...and I whispered to her...call 911...I'm in trouble. She called and the dispatcher put us on conference call and had emergency services on the way.  They arrived and asked him to leave the premises. 

Now, I don't put my photo in my Open House ads....or my name as Hostess.  I also arrive in time to remove knives from the kitchen and scissors...anything that I think could become a weapon. 

Thank you for allowing me to pass on my personal experience to others. 

Annell Kirkland
10:51am • #98
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What I keep thinking as I read your post is, how do you protect yourself from this kind of person at an open house? Take a picture of everyone that comes in, and their car?  

10:55am • #99

In regards to the post about not using your picture if you are female, young and gorgeous..... This goes for EVERYONE, male and female. As a real estate agent safety trainer, I advise agents to not put their picture on everything, everywhere. The more your image is out there, the more of a target you are.

I have had agents say "I am too old or too ulgy, no one wants me". It has nothing to do with attractiveness, but what the criminal is looking for. They may want to target older agents, or younger agents, or redheads, or brown-eyed agents. You never know because you don't know what they are looking for! Focus on pictures of your listings....

Most agents meet strangers/potential clients, at empty houses (without proper screening procedures). The general public and criminals know this.... All they have to do is see a picture of someone they want to target, call and meet that person in an empty house! NO PICTURES!

11:03am • #100
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I had to bail on a client who gave me all the wrong feelings on the phone, glad I did. God gave us instincts for a reason.  Good to hear the it had the outcome it did for you.  For this reason I am not fond of the idea of open houses.

11:10am • #101

A few days ago I osted the following blog, guess I did it wrong because there was very little response.  I am concerned it was not seen bt too many so here it is again.  It was Proceed with Caution.... Real Estate can be dangerous.

The following in an excerpt from a safety class that we have been teaching for 11 years. Although law enforcement officials don't keep numbers on crimes specifically against practitioners, the Washington, D.C.--based National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health found that about 201 real estate practitioners were killed on the job between 1980 and 1992. In 2001 there were 21 agents murdered on the job, and even clients were shot and seriously injured. If you don't believe you and your clients are at risk think again. The average appears to remain at approximately 21 fatalities annually. One FBI agent describes our profession as “the most dangerous legitimate profession in America”. In Real Estate, there are risks inherent to the industry that can easily be avoided. Remember that awareness is the most important tool for your personal safety. Our combined efforts should focus on making this industry safe as well as challenging. SAFETY TIPS REAL ESTATE AGENTS USE TO PROTECT THEMSELVES

1. Be alert. Prevention is the best defense.

2. Trust your instincts. The minute you feel uncomfortable get them out of the house and if warranted, call for help.

3. Don’t wear expensive jewelry.

4. DO NOT SIT AN OPEN HOUSE ALONE or, SHOW PROPERTIES TO STRANGERS ALONE! There is safety in numbers.

5. Don’t advertise a property as VACANT.

6. Never meet a prospect based upon a phone call only. Always get a name and return telephone number for those who call for appointments.

7. Never show the property to anyone before meeting them somewhere else first. (THE OFFICE IS THE FIRST AND BEST LOCATION.) An additional advantage is gained here. You can get their prospects ID, Drivers license and make a copy for the office and/or Mortgage (Neighborhood coffee house etc. a public place)

8. Always use your car for showings.

9. Always lock your car when you leave it

10. Make sure your vehicle is ready and positioned to leave in a hurry and that your keys are on your person.

11. Let potential buyers explore the home on their own, with you following behind. Avoid going into confined areas with the prospect. If there ismore than one person viewing the house have them stay together don’t let them wander separately.

12. Leave word with someone, your safety net, when the prospect arrives, and make sure that they know the name and phone number of the prospect. 1) Have a distress code word for this phone call and arrange for a specified call backs from the safety net. Use a word that will be normal in context and under a normal situational telephone call (“I need the red folder”.)

13. Ask the prospects to show ID when they sign in and complete the guest register. (ARE SAFETY ALERT AVAILABLE).

14. Report any threatening or suspicious experiences to the police immediately.

15. While house is available for showing call your safety net every hour to let them know you are ok.

16. Advise prospect that you are expecting others at any time. If a criminal hears that you may be joined shortly they are less apt to commit a crime.

17. Carry a whistle, mace, or shriek alarm etc. (Firearms are a lethal option that should not be considered lightly.)

18. If you're accosted in a parking lot and forced to drive, don't leave the area, One suggestion: If you're in a crowded area, run your vehicle into another one or into something else, such as a building or a tree. You'll attract attention, and that's the last thing a perpetrator wants. If you're confronted at your car, throw your car key in one direction and run screaming in the opposite direction. For this reason, keep your car key separate from your other keys.

19. Check the door BEFORE using the key. If it is unlocked use extreme caution before entering. Report the open door to the listing agent for better monitoring of the property.

20. The most important rule of all: NO SALE IS WORTH RISKING YOUR LIFE!!

The number of vacant homes available heighten these issues. The weather is an important factor also. When it’s cold many seek the warmth; when it’s hot - refuge from the sun.

Additionally there are many agents using a lockbox that has a combination and often the combination has been compromised.

Please be safe. Stan Graham Advanced Realty Education Arizona Elite Properties

11:22am • #102
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Tami this is a great post, we need to remember that BAD things can happen, you don't need to live in fear, but you do need to take precautions.

11:38am • #103

Thank God you had your son with you!  I had one incident where I was alone in an open house and a very large man came in to see it. My danger signal went up and I walked outside and would not go back in.  I was very polite and spoke to him through the back door, there was no way I was going to stay in a 5 bedroom 2 story victorian with someone I did not trust.

I think our guts are the key to all of this.  If you get that gut feeling. Stay away or bring a man with you.  Too many women get hurt or killed by trying to be nice.

12:01pm • #104
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It is too easy for us to let our guard down and "forget" to be safe. I live in a rural area with low crime rates, and sometimes my own safety is the one of the last things I"m thinking of.  Until last year, when my 12 year old daughter and I were nearly attached. Thank God for modern technology. We were able to get the car unlocked and open and into the car and quickly locked the doors behind us. All with just a few pushes of a button.

Always trust your instincts, too. If you get a creapy feeling about someone trust that feeling. It's there for a reason.

12:23pm • #105
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Are tasers available and legal?  Forget legal, are they available?  A girl's gotta do what a girl's gotta do to stay safe!

I had a situation several years ago whereby I received a phone call from a potential buyer who was very evasive when I was speaking with him on the phone.  He indicated that he did not want the Seller to be present when he toured the home.  Okay, perhaps they knew each other, or not.  I didn't want to miss out on a possible sale, but I also didn't want to be there alone, so I called a friend and she and her husband met me there and we sat outside on the porch.  A car drove up and down the street a few times, but never stopped.  Who knows what he had in mind, but I'm glad I had the sense to listen to my inner voice.

Too many crazies out there!

 

12:29pm • #106
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Thank you for sharing your story with others here to serve as a warning about personal safety ... so glad that you are OK.  Many of us have heard safety warnings before, but we tend to think "it can't happen to me."  Your story and the other ones here remind us that we must remember to put a safety plan in place, and always follow it.  Your post will likely save someone else from grave danger.

12:57pm • #107
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Thank God it worked out that way for you.  You can never be too careful.

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I've been sitting here reading all the comments and thinking how many times I've put myself at risk.  I've also learned a lot of great tips for personal safety and will implement them immediately.  Thanks for the reminder!

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I'm so glad you are safe!!!! Your guardian angel was watching over you!

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An amazing post and comments.  Pretty scary stuff.  I will reblog this to home stagers as well.  I dont' have signage on my car partly because of this - I sometimes work alone in vacant homes and don't need to advertise that.

One word of caution - if you are going to carry a weapon - get training on how to use it, and refresh yourself on occasion.  When looking at property in Arizona, our realtor carries a gun in her truck and another in her purse.

Frontsight has excellent training for handguns & hand-to-hand.

1:50pm • #112

I absolutely agree with the agents who suggest never to meet a client from a sign call.  They should at the very least come into the office and/or pre-qualified.  A rookie agent in our office, a very pretty woman, met a guy, alone, at one of her remote listings (her picture is on her signs).  He made a pass at her - fortunately she was able to fend him off.  When I asked her if she got the plate number and reported him to the police she said, "but, he's a CASH buyer!".  She thought that this creep was actually going to buy something from her in the future! 

2:12pm • #113
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Tami- We are so fortunate here in Alabama that we have a task force from Georgia that comes over each year and speaks at our Realtor Luncheon to inform us about new crimes, current trends, Realtor safety and much more.  He's a retired police officer and Realtor Safety is his new mission.  He always has the best products for us to purchase for protection.  You can never be too careful.  Thanks for your information.

2:30pm • #114

Tami - Thank you so very much for sharing your experience and words of wisdom.  Great reminder to always be aware! 

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Tami,

Mahalo (Thank you) for your post.  I know that I have become too comfortable with my surroundings and have let my guard down.  I need to remember that those things can happen any where, even here in Hawaii.

Aloha and best wishes,

Karla Casey, Principal Broker
Casey & Associates, Hawaii

3:17pm • #116
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We just had an alert go out from our board about someone calling female agents to meet him at a property. When the agent showed up there was another man with him smelling of alcohol and they attacked her. She was able to fight them off.  I was at a broker's open last week and a single man walked in at the very end that I didn't recognize and who didn't look like an agent.  I got a brief scare before he identified himself as the neighbor and told me that the house lights have been left on.  That's why I don't do open houses anymore.  Too scary. I also meet all new prospects at the office if I can, and if not I keep my pepper spray handy.

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Our office has a "code" that is used if anyone feels they are in danger.  I just hope I can remember it ,if I ever need it!!!

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Tami:  Wow! I worked for a Court for 22 years, my sister for local police and fire departments for a total of 20 years.  People think they will know when they see someone that there is something hinky about that person, but I will tell you from experience that is not true.  We had individuals with serious, serious criminal histories coming in for misdemeanor cases and yes some "looked" the part, but many didn't.  Be careful.  Take precautions.  Seek out a self-defense class.  Be safe.  Thanks for the reminder.  Carrie

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As a home inspector I often inspect homes where it is painfully obvious that the male is no longer in residence.  That means that most people viewing the home would see the same thing.  Stay safe yourself but also advise your female lister's to pretend the absent member is still there with a photo together, some "guy" stuff where he used to leave it and appropriate clothes in the closets.  It may understandably be a little painful to have these reminders around but much less painful than an attack.

6:11pm • #120

Tami,

Great post.  A good reminder as to how vulnerable we all are (men included).

Just a thought:  I have often heard your suggestion about holding your keys in in a fist in such a way as have a key sticking out between your fingers.  The idea is to use this as impromptu brass knuckles.  In my opinion, this is not a good idea.  First of all, you'll break your fingers. Try hitting a phone book like this you'll see what I mean.  Also, most women don't know how to punch and don't possess the upper body strength to punch effectively.

A better way is to grip your keys in a fist with the keys protruding from the side. Delivering a hammer blow this way will probably be more effective.

Robin Sagadraca
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I had a very close call myself last year. I followed safety and THANK GOD. I had gotten a call the day before from a man wanting to see a property. It was vacant land by the way. I NEVER show vacant land by myself. My area is to rural. Like you I was very rushed that day. Without even thinking if there was a male available the next day to accompany me I agreed. I took down the number he gave me later to find it was the number to one of our local hotels. That evening I scoured trying to find someone to meet with me. The 2 males that were in my office were booked. I knew I couldn't do it alone. I find another female agent thinking well at least we are in two's. I arrived at my office where I was meeting the gentlemen. It was a Sunday. We waited and waited. Nothing. But in the meantime I kept getting this really eerie feeling. Like I was being watched. I thought I was just over thinking. Half and hour went by and I told the other Agent/Friend I would call the number to see if perhaps he got lost as he said he wasn't from here. That's when I realized it was to the Hotel. I asked if so and so was there and they said there was no one there by that name. Now, I am really spooked. So, that's it. I am leaving. We get into my car and I am not 2 blocks away and my phone rings from a restricted number. I answer and it was this gentlemen. He said " You didn't tell me you were bringing a friend ! " Pretty freaking bold and I still get chills when I think about it and while writing it here. I started to question him and you would only hear long hard breaths into the phone. I hung up and drove immediately to the Police Station and told them what had happened and filed a report. This man watched from the parking lot of the Wal Mart Plaza across the street from my office. This is my likely assumption since the only thing next door to us was , yes, creepy, a Funeral Home and no cars were there. The next day when pulling up my MLS our Association advised us to " be on the look out " 2 women had been raped in 2 adjacent towns from me showing VACANT PROPERTY. Could this be the same person ? Probably. The difference between them and I is I refused to meet at the property only my office. They showed up at the property and alone.

Thanks for sharing your story. We can never be to careful. I can tell you from first hand experience this memory will stay with you forever. It has with me. I am always looking for the red flags now more than ever. Sometimes it gets exhausting and I found myself being suspicious of everyone. It sucked for a while but with the right safety plan like you described it gets a whole lot better. It did help put many new safety measures in place at our office.

12:58am • #123

Women tend to forget about the dangers out there, as they are so focused on their goal for the day.  You just have no clue where and when someone might try to harm you.  Example:  Many years ago, while planning to show a property, I did all of the right things first; called the listing office to notify them that I want to show property, picked up key, called the Seller to notify them.  No answer at Seller's home, therefore, I assumed they were not home.  Arrived at the home with key in hand; asked my clients to wait in the car until I opened the door.  I rang the bell a couple of times, no answer, knocked, no answer.  I then placed the key into the lock at which point, I looked up and a man was standing there pointing a gun in my face!

While in the state of shock, the man put his dog away and the gun away and invited me in.  I motioned to my clients to come in.  We walked through the house (still in shock), left the property and I then told my clients that the man had a gun.  Contacted listing office after I came out of shock and really let them have it.  They told me that this man had just come out of a mental institution and his wife left him at home alone. 

Certainly in retrospect, I should have just left the property immediately, but truly I was in a state of shock.  No one was hurt, but it could have been pretty ugly.

I'm not sure how one prepares for something like this. 

Peggy A Lynch, Capitol Home Staging, LLC

12:12pm • #124

Tami, give your daughter a pat on the back.  Awesome.

Thank you for the reminder to stay on my game.

Cheers,

Colleen

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3:33pm • #125

My last open house experience last year freaked me out enough that I've never done another one. I was holding a home open that was semi seclueded. After a slow afternoon with only a few browsers, I got a phone call on my cell phone. A very unpleasant,detailed phone call from a male caller wanting to know what type of lingere I had on underneath my skirt!

I don't get rattled very easily, but I did indeed have a skirt on so I went into a wee panic. Immediately, I locked all the doors and widows. Several minutes later a lone male pulled up and knocked, rang the bell, I just stayed in the other room feeling like a fool, waiting for him to leave. Poor guy was probably a legitimate prospect, but a I couldn't risk it. I packed up and left an hour early, berating  myself for being such a ninny....but still thinking I made the best decision.

Later that day I recounted my experience to my brother in law, who is an over night truck driver. He took the number from my nasty caller and decided to have a bit of fun by calling him all night long to see what he had wore to bed!

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This was a great reminder. Thank you for the tips, and so glad you are ok.

10:07am • #127
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Absolutley. Unfortunately, there is way too much stuff going on at open houses.

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Tami, you will never know how your experience, and writing about it, may save others from potential tragedy.  Both men and women are victims of assault and robbery so hopefully what you have related will be a wake up call for everyone.

I have re-blogged this excellent post here on Active Rain and intend to send it to everyone I know who works alone.  Reminders like this help to keep us aware and on guard.  THANK YOU for taking the time to share this.

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I'm so glad you were with your son.  We had something similar happen here this week.  Please take a look at my blogs....

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Tami, thanks for the heads up and passing this information on so unselfishly.  My hear pours out to the family and loved ones of the Realtors that lost their life.  We need to stay as proactive as possible at all times.  Thank God, you are OK, and congratulations to your daughter for such a great accomplishment.

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Hi Tami,

You are going to get another round of comments on this one.

Thanks for the post. I came here from your comment and passed it on to my team

PHil

5:43am • #133

I think having a good safety system is a great idea. I will discuss this at our next staff meeting. Thanks for posting it for us. 

10:39am • #134

Being a safety trainer, I love hearing how seriously everyone takes their safety! Men and women alike! I was interviewed by the Des Moines Register after the agent was recently murdered and interviewed by abcnews.com about agent safety. I will post the links for you all to share and read.

I have to comment on a couple of new comments since I last responded. I have already addressed the misnomer of keeping pepper spray hidden in your pockets. It should be visible as a deterrent. Someone mentioned wasp spray as an alternative to pepper spray. That is a no-no. First, it is a federal crime to use wasp spray for anything but its intended purpose. Secondly, although you should use any and everything that you can to protect yourself, you need to make sure it will work. We do not know if wasp spray will stop a human, make them mad enough to escalate the attack or kill them. It is better to not count on the unknown to protect yourself. You can buy a large canister of pepper spray. It sprays as far as the wasp spray and we know how it affects the would-be criminal although nothing is 100%. If wasp spray was so good, police officers would carry it, right? They carry pepper spray!

Finally, the comment about the sheriff discouraging people from utilizing safety tools such as pepper spray. How unfair! He was quoted as saying you need to be prepared to use the tools you are likely to have when unprepared. Your elbows, your body, etc.. First of all, you should always be prepared. Period. Secondly, I am amazed that the occassional law enforcement officer who preaches against 'regular' people carrying a self defense product, has self-defense training, a gun, pepper spray, billy club AND a flashlight to defend themselves. Why can't they use only their bodies to defend themselves as they advise us? Because we all need every advantage we can get, too!

I do stress that you need to learn your weapon and practice with it.

 Links to my safety tip interviews. Please share!

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/dangers-real-estate-criminals-witnesses-safety-expert-keeping/story?id=13375723
 
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20110411/NEWS/104110317/Real-estate-job-carries-risks-expert-says-after-agent-killed-West-Des-Moines   http://www.realtor.org/RMODaily.nsf/pages/News2011041303?OpenDocument

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