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When do you turn down a listing?

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Real Estate Agent with Sibcy Cline Realtors®

  Three months ago I met a very nice couple. Their desire was to sell the home that they had bought nine months earlier. They could easily meet their payments but wanted to live in another area.  I only ran into a few problems doing our analysis with meeting their needs.

  1. They wanted to sell without having to bring money to close.
  2. They had bought the home with no money down.
  3. The improvements that they did were not improvements-- covering a Slate floor with Pergo.
  4. They had a one car garage. The standard for the area is a two car.

  When I ran a comp report on the property I came up with a lower range pricing than would meet their needs.

 

Projected Values Calculated by:

Assessed valueSq Footage
$148,120.00  $153,962.62  

 

 I told them we could put the home on the market and always have it showing ready. I also told them that at the price they needed to market the home at we would not get many showings and they might become frustrated with the sale of their home.

  Well they listed the property with another agent for 189,900.00 one week after I talked to them. I recieved a call from them last night. They told me that they were getting no showings on their home and wanted to know what to do. I told them that they needed to contact the REALTOR® that had listed their home for her advice and to see what could be done to market better. They told me that they were calling her every week and were try to find out why they had only had two showings of the home in three months and she could not come up with a better idea than drop the price.  

 Well that agent bought a listing but her strategy is not working. Just remember There is nothing worse than having no listings other than having a listing that will not sell.

 

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Mike Jaquish
Realty Arts - Cary, NC
919-880-2769 Cary, NC, Real Estate

Great story, James.

You can't sell them all, so you might as well avoid the unsellable ones.

 

Jun 05, 2007 11:46 PM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

Love it, love it, love it.

Happens every day.  AgentS buying listings and sellers disappointed.  Homes sitting and sitting and sitting. 

Folks call me regularly and want to know what they can do to sell their home.  I send them right back to their listing agent. 

"THAT IS AGENCY LEVEL ADVICE, CALL YOUR AGENT". 

Jun 05, 2007 11:53 PM
Rosemary Brooks
BMC Real Estate - 209-910-3706 - Stockton, CA
The Mother & Daughter Realty Team

In this time of where the market is and how slow the houses are moving, I feel just as bad for the seller as the agents - being one I know that it is hard to get them to see that their lovely home might be sitting on the market for no apparent reason at all.  There are just not enough willing, able and ready buyers for all the homes that are out there accumulating DOM #s.  I look at the price reduction numbers often and they are just climbing on a daily basis. And by comparison, most homes are NOT priced too high, its the market!

So hang in there and don't take on someone's headache - if another agent has the listing... they would need to work it, work it, work it.  And that seller just need to be guided right back to the one those chose to represent them.  Keep pointing them back, they will learn.

 

Jun 06, 2007 12:38 AM
New Jersey Real Estate James Boyer Morris, Essex & Union County NJ Realtor
RE/MAX Properties Unlimited, Real Estate - Morristown, NJ

I would have taken the listing anyway, but with the following statements having been made to the people.

Up front I would tell them:

If the home is over priced it will get very few showings by other agents.

A home will always sell for the highest price it is going to sell at in the first 2 or 3 weeks on the market, after that it is just a down hill battle to get it sold at the price a less motivated buyer is willing to pay.

A over priced home is only of benefit to the listing agent (I will likely get buyers from the home, but not buyers for your home) I am telling you this up front, it is not really what I want for you though.

Yes I will list the home at the price you are asking, be aware I am not going to spend more money marketing your home than I spend on any other home. (It does not matter how much you spend marketing a over priced home, it will not sell until it is priced properly)

If they still want to list with me, great.  If not well, great.

If they call me later after having listed with someone else asking the question you stated, I would not turn them back on their current realtor with advice to press on marketing, that is not what is needed and you know it.  I would remind them of the price they should have listed the house at to start with, and leave it at that. (remember they called you, you did not call them).

 

Jim 

Jun 06, 2007 01:07 AM
Donna Harris
Donna Homes, powered by JPAR - TexasRealEstateMediationServices.com - Austin, TX
Realtor,Mediator,Ombudsman,Property Tax Arbitrator

My new standard saying is, " I sell homes, I don't list homes."  They kinda look at me and ask again if I would be willing to try x dollars to list it.  If it's a reasonable starting point, I'll go ahead and humor them, as long as they sign something that says we'll be adjusting our price strategy within 3 weeks.  If they're what I consider well overpriced, I tell them I can't sell it at that price and they need to talk with someone else who has the power to do it.

Jun 06, 2007 01:56 AM
Loreena and Michael Yeo
3:16 team REALTY ~ Locally-owned Prosper TX Real Estate Co. - Prosper, TX
Real Estate Agents

I typically dont take overpriced listings. I do not want to waste time with an overpriced listing, then having to adjust it later either. I not only track my record for selling homes, I track it based on price adjustments.

I seriously think it does the seller no justice just to "try out the market". We have wasted the whole time it was priced incorrectly. I have a heart-felt personal experience to share with my sellers, something I am not proud of. Usually after I share that story, they accept my answer for why I think it is worth what it is worth.

Good post!

Jun 07, 2007 12:47 AM
Nancy Lohman
Highlands Ranch, CO

Great post.  This situation is happening all over our area.  I had a conversation with a top Realtor the other day and we came to the conclusion that it is better to be the third agent to get the expired listing. The clients are by that time convinced they must lower the price.

It is funny, I think that they go to another agent and lower the price to save face??? Even though the original agent diligently tried to get the client to lower the price.  I think it is important to really educate our listings about PRICE.  In the past the houses were selling like hotcakes, it is a very hard pill for most people to swallow. Their houses are not worth what they thought..... then of course many owe more than their house is worth in todays market.  I spoke with a title company rep who said more and more sellers are bringing money to the closing table.  Times are changing, thats for sure.

Nancy Lohman

www.nancylohman.com

 

Jun 07, 2007 01:44 AM
Theresa Mertes REALTOR®
Algonquin, IL

I agree, but for us newbies, we are hungry for anything. I have little inventory and trying to get my name out there,.

I have been able to educate the sellers once I take their listing then to come down on price. 

 

P.S. Thank you James for your comment. It is priced right.

Jun 14, 2007 02:13 AM
Paul Viau
Nova Scotia Real Estate Blog - Halifax, NS
Nova Scotia Real Estate Blog + Photo Services
Well - I just turned down a listing that ended up going to a new comer. My only problem with taking a listing at any price is that it skews the market data for people pricing new listings that havn't actually seen that particular listing. I guess it might be OK if you are 20 or 30,000 over, but in a specialty market when you are 150,000 over? It just doesn't make sense.
Jun 14, 2007 02:30 AM
James Gordon
Sibcy Cline Realtors® - Cincinnati, OH
REALTOR, PBD SFR SRS
Theresa Yes I am sorry it is priced right to meet the sellers financial needs but it is not priced right to sell as the home is on the market for 20,000.00 higher over anything else in the neighborhood!
Jun 14, 2007 02:30 AM
Rosemary Brooks
BMC Real Estate - 209-910-3706 - Stockton, CA
The Mother & Daughter Realty Team
Well this is like what the appraised values did back the 2004/05 - its the start of a mess.  Now we are all suffering from the too high values and high number of sales at those higher price tags.  I don't think we will be able to stop it, if its not the appraised value, its the listing agent that will go higher knowing that it is too high for the comps and the areas.  BUt then the house will sell.  So how do you stop it?
Jun 15, 2007 11:42 AM
Sue Nelson, Broker/Associate Las Vegas Real Estate ~Team Rhino~
ERA Sunbelt Realty - Las Vegas, NV
If a listing isn't going to MAKE you money, it will COST you money.  Best advice I have for everyone is... NEXT!  Some might be thinking  "easy for you to say - you have lots of listings".  That's why I can say it... I know from experience.
Jun 15, 2007 11:56 AM
Steven Shewell
Primary Residential Mortgage, Inc. - Ephrata, PA
The Mortgage Maverick

Having no listings is stressful.  Having listings that are over priced and cost money to market without selling is even more stressful.

Always have the courage to walk away if the sellers won't agree to your terms.  Remember:  YOU are the professional.

Jun 15, 2007 11:59 AM
Rosemary Brooks
BMC Real Estate - 209-910-3706 - Stockton, CA
The Mother & Daughter Realty Team

I haven't had to turn one down yet.  And probably would be nervous to do so in this day and time.  But I sure have had to prove what I am saying to the seller.  I guess it is just as easy to not give up so easily and remember to make a good impression at the beginning so that they stay with you and what you have to say when needed.

But I am sure if I lose one or a few because they wanted to control the situation, I'd be disappointed for a minute then I'd get over it because I'd figure that one was not for me.

Jun 15, 2007 06:12 PM