This isn't a sales pitch; it's some straight talk about the reverse mortgage market.  If you're considering a reverse mortgage, you ought to do it now.  Not tomorrow, not next year,

....now.

The reverse mortgage market has a ticking time-bomb in it much like the sub-prime market did; it's priced all wrong.  Sub-prime loans used to be a very healthy product when the risk they carried was priced appropriately.  In 2005, secondary market investors bought too many of these loans, causing a "price war".  The darned loans were so cheap that good credit borrowers used them to buy homes bigger than they could afford.  The result was increased risk upon a system that was priced for lower risk.

We all know what happened to the sub-prime market.  It crashed and disappeared.

Two factors have increased risk on the reverse mortgage market:

1- A national price decline eroded home equity.  That's pretty easy to mitigate because the loan-to-value can be cut to reflect that decline. People look at their home equity differently now.  Five years ago, Americans felt "wealthy" because home equity kept growing.  Today, the reduced home equity makes people realize that it could disappear tomorrow.  Home equity harvesting is what's driving the current reverse mortgage boom.

2- Like the sub-prime market, reverse mortgages haven't appropriately priced in the increased risk.  Follow me on this.  In the reverse mortgage market, borrowers who live past the actuarial age start costing the lender money.  Simply put, if the borrowers don't die on time, the system could crash.

Look at this actuarial table and pay close attention to the life expectancies for the years 1940 and 1950.  Males born in 1950 are expected to live 4 years longer than their older brothers, born in 1940.  1950-born females are expected to live a full six years longer than their older sisters.

Here are the problems with the current reverse mortgage pricing model:

  • The underwriters haven't adjusted for these actuarial differences. 
  • There are a lot more people turning 62, in the next 10 years.  In 1940, there were 2.6 million births in America.  In 1950, there were 3.6 million births.  In 1954, the birth number broke 4 million.
  • Scientific advances could skew the life expectancy data even worse (or better if living is your plan).

Like sub-prime, this mortgage product is going to be a victim of its own success.  As the product gains popularity, more market participants will join the reverse mortgage boom and margin pressures will exist.  You know how that story goes, the first thing compromised when margin pressures contract is the loan pricing model.  We could start pricing this product cheaper when we should be pricing it more expensively.

I'd like to think we can learn from our past mistakes.  If that happens, the reverse mortgage product will get much more expensive, really soon. Get the reverse mortgage money while you can; it might not be around tomorrow

 
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38 Comments on Why The Reverse Mortgage Market Will Disappear

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Hi Brian! This is some really great commentary. My company in Northern California offers this product as well, and while it's a great program, I never really thought about the sustainability of it till now.

Props!

-Dan

Dan
10:26pm • #1
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Brian, while I'm not in the mortgage business, I've felt the same for some time. I've even been collecting some info so I could share my feelings on my website. Yeah, I think both the clock and the bomb are ticking.

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Hi Brain, a brilliant post and one that we should all read, understand and take action on. We need to get the word out to the Reverse Mortgage candidate community and bring the issues surrounding Reverse mortgages to these consumers. Well done Sir and as always brilliantly presented.

10:28pm • #3
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Thanks all.  Dan, I'd start calling everyone who might be on the fence...quickly.  John, I"m interested in your data, as you gather it.

William, thank you for the great conversation the other day!  As always, it's a blast visiting with you.

10:33pm • #4
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Brian, quite an interesting article.  I'm curious as to your take on WHEN you think we might see the collapse of the reverse mortgage products? 

10:42pm • #5

Brian, i agree there is a correction coming in the reverse market. There is already talk of cutting the LTVs on reverse mortgages which i think will be  the first step. If home values continue to decline this will definitely cause some issues down the road. I agree that anyone who is considering a reverse mortgage really needs to look at potential lowered ltvs and the loan limits being dropped back down as creating the perfect arguement to move forward now.

10:46pm • #6
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There are a lot of valid points in your discussion and reasons for the disappearance of the reverse mortgage, and like many things, people may delay too long.

11:17pm • #7
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Brian: As will all the special loan programs, they can be here today and gone tomorrow.

11:38pm • #8
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I'm curious as to your take on WHEN you think we might see the collapse of the reverse mortgage products?

Well, definitely in 2030 if the actuarial tables don't change and they continue originating the product.  I don't think that will happen, though.  I think GNMA will understand this, severly reprice the product to reflect the risk, and the product will become far less popular.

I"ll reiterate; a reverse mortgage is a GREAT deal for a borrower today.

12:12am • #9
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The reverse mortgage offers no relief for the home owner whose equity has evaporated.  Taking equity out in monthly payment through a reverse mortgage isn't possible when there is no equity. 

Just more home owners who are prisoners of their mortgage and negative equity.

Rant, rant.

 

5:11am • #10
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Just hang on to this post for a few years (or maybe months)...and you will be able to prove you told us so.

Where was this kind of thoughtful prophesy about mortgages a few years ago?

Rant more!

5:19am • #11
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Reverse mortgages seem to be a closely-held topic. My husband has requested information FIVE times, told that it will be forthcoming, but has never received a thing. We are interested in knowing more about a reverse mortgage for ourselves as we have no children to inherit our home. I also want to be better informed, as a realtor. I will take this subject OFF the "back burner" now that I've read your post! Thanks for the info.

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Brian -

I was thinking pretty much the same thing, relative to eroding levels of equity, and the buying behavior of the younger boomers.

Agree with you - a year or so from now, you won't even here of this option.

Thanks for the share!

DEAN & DEAN'S TEAM CHICAGO

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Hi Brian, Thanks for the information. I just lost a listing to a reverse mortgage. Fortunately the home owner had a lot of equity (30 years worth) and decided to keep her apartment and get a reverse mortgage rather than selling.

7:41am • #14

HUD has already priced in a "floor" rate of 5.5% when calculating the seniors LTV.  If home values continue to go down, we're all in trouble, no matter what type of mrtg we have on our home. 

alex gardner
9:04am • #15

Well said. The equity piece has been my biggest concern.

9:37am • #16

Good post and it has been an issue that no one is talking about. 

The RM is based on the fact that house values continually increase in small increments.  Not so any longer.  The lender (gov't insured, usually) pays either a lump sum or a monthly "annuity" or a line of credit or a combination expecting the loan to be paid off when you are no longer living in the house.  The amount you receive is based upon your life expectancy and the value of the home.

How RM's work when the equity in the home is not enough to cover the amount due when the occupants leave the home is a good question.  Is it considered another short sale, a foreclosure, or do the lenders come after the former owners, or the estate?

I do know that it is a great tool for our older citizens to bridge the gap between retirement income and living expenses.  One of the hardest parts of selling a RM is getting past the children who think their parents are wasting their inheritance.  Shameful of them really, fighting for their future benefit over their parents current condition, but difficult to overcome all the same.  Nothing like having a child of a client call you up and calling you a thief and worse.

Have a friend in NJ who's parents had no mortgage but had a horrible time paying outrageous RE taxes and their house needed some repairs.  Every time I suggested opening a RM credit line, just to cover these types of expenses I would hear him scream.. No Way.. that's my inheritance.

I'm not sure that RMs will completely disappear remember.. our older citizens tend to be more careful with their finances and weren't using their houses as ATMs.  But I can definately see the program needing a bailout as the outstanding balances will not be covered by the outstanding collateral.

 

9:41am • #17

Hi Dan, good article, I do think the pricing is agressive but also look at the matrix that makes up the Principal limits, Age, equity and expected interst rate, my last loan ended up being at 52% LTV in a down market. I think the loans made today are secure due to the values being driven down the last few years, the loans done at the height of the market have some big risks. I'm not sure how many people will out live their loans. While the loan matrix uses the youngest borrower living to be 100 and the up front FHA preimum of 2% I would hope this would help offest some of the risk. It is only a guess but I would think very few will out live thier loans using the Tenure paymnet plan but that is agian just a guess.

I used to think the general public seniors need to be better educated on RM's but I also in looking at some of the comments we all could be better educated on them.

Thank you again for your post, 

Dan

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Dan Pena
11:04am • #18

Hi Brian,

Interesting idea.  Do you think this will be more impactful on Middle America, where home values don't fluctuate as much?  Thinking that the loan is going negative for potentially a long time and perhaps the equity doesn't keep pace.

11:23am • #19

Brian,

Thanks for this Comparison! You're right...get it now!!!

Kathy Opatka

 

11:37am • #20
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Hey Dan,

Firstly, reverse mortgages are an excellent tool; your article about how it helped your client is an example of why this innovative financial product needs to be offered, moving forward.  In order to preserve that, the matrix needs to be updated to reflect both the lifespan extension and growing size of this market.  The matrix you cited is still based on the 1940 births.

Mike,

I don't think the price decline factor is as important as the actuarial tables.  Fix those and we'll preserve the product for future borrowers which brings me to...

Kathy,

Correct.  Now should be the best pricing reverse mortgage borrowers see.

 

11:44am • #21

I think these type of loans have a greater chance of surviving than Social Security !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

12:30pm • #22

I must go talk to my clients today then and see if they want to check this out.  Fits their needs to a "T", but think they will not go for it due to thinking they will owe money on their house.  Older clients who have lived through a depression (yeah, we might fit that category in years to come) don't trust banks or people offering them something for nothing, in their opinion.

Great Thoughts and Post.

Eddie Palmer
12:33pm • #23
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What A great Article Brian!

It took me a little while to understand the actuarial table. I recently started believing that if you can control your own money do that, as opposed to having the bank do that for you.

I.e Cash out a lump sum, Iinvest and live off the interest. as opposed to having the bank invest the money with you for interest, where they reserve the right to calling to loan due under certain circumstances.

 

Just my thoughts!
Joel silberstein

2:08pm • #24

Brian,

Social Security and Medicare have one foot in the grave and another on a banana peel just as all the boomers hit retirement. Reverse mortgages are one option they can explore. I hope the consumer takes time to get informed about the pro's an con's.

2:32pm • #25
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Reverse mortgages can be very confusing for consumers to understand just how they work.

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Hi Brian.  I am sure ObamaCare will get the old folks out of the house sooner than they planned.  In all seriousness, the next few years may be tough, but I think in 3 to 5 years we will see inflation and high interest rates that may save the current investors in those homes and make new reverse mortgages attractive for seniors.

2:59pm • #27

I have to question about the insurance paid up front; would that not cover the cost to the lender if the borrower does live longer or the house value declines?  So the lender is protected just as the estate is protected from having to pay more then the house is worth on the open market.

Paul Vose
3:59pm • #29

Great post. Definitely something to tell your young clients who may be banking on possibly doing a reverse mortgage sometime down the road. I know someone personally who has the reverse mortgage as part of their estate planning. He's 35 years old now.

-Mako

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I wouldn't think the percentage is, or will be, high enough to cause as much economical damage as the ARMS did.  I'd like to hear your thoughts

It's not so much the "percentage" of the pool as much as the size of the pool.  In my article, I cite that the pool doubled in a fifteen year period.  Moreover, baby boomers are much less prepared for retirement than their older cousins and rely on home equity more than pensions, 401-k plans, etc.  The baby-boomers have always been an optimistic generation with a heavy reliance on debt.

I have to question about the insurance paid up front; would that not cover the cost to the lender if the borrower does live longer or the house value declines?

Good question, Paul.  The expected overload will bankrupt the insurance pool.  The insurance premium needs to be larger.

5:41pm • #32

Interesting post... but...after looking at the new Obama health care plan...I am sure he will figure out a way to keep that life expectancy lower.  At least it appears that way. 

My question is...is it healthy for any aged family to do a reverse mortgage?  Maybe I don't know enough about it...but to me, unless you are able to pay it back in a timely manner...it's adding more debt to the ever increasing debt that is already there.  Maybe you could educate me?

5:59pm • #33

Very good post Brian- I don't hear very much about RM's these days, besides scam warnings from the DRE.

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Interesting perspective Brian, I have not had too much experience with this product. It will be interesting to see how this pans out.  Thanks.

9:16pm • #35

Interesting points.  How soon do you think this will happen, because the idea that home prices can go up in the next year can make a big difference in equity.  If the guidelines are the same, the homeowner would likely be better off waiting.

11:28pm • #36
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If the guidelines are the same, the homeowner would likely be better off waiting.

It's not so much the equity that's the problem, it's the actuarial tables, Mike.  Equity erosion simply changes peoples' attitudes about harvesting the equity through loans

12:53am • #37

Your doom and gloom forecasting about reverse mortgages while encouraging homeowners to get it now while you can regrdless of the economy and market conditions may not be advisable especially since most homeowners have suffered significant loss of equity.

Your statistical data about millions of seniors being eligible for reverse mortgages doesn't indicate how many of them are homeowners nor if their homes have enough equity to secure a reverse mortgage.

Speculating about what could, should or might happen is akin to predicting the weather. The facts are determined by the circumstances and because equity has been lost, a better strategy is to postpone getting a reverse mortgage until the real estate market begins to increase in value.

Here's something to think about regardiing actuarial tables since they are tied to the census, which will be taken in 2010. If the Obama administration is successful in enacting their currently proposed health care plan, Medicare will be rationed and more seniors will die sooner than later and that will lead to a reduction of the social security benefits the government must pay out, so with this health care plan, they kill two birds with one stone. Think about that because that scenario is more realistic and could occur sooner than reverse mortgages going away. So, what's more important to your senior homeowner today?

4:01am • #38
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Based on those numbers shown, this product will go the way of the dodo bird.

7:37pm • #39
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I've had this feeling for a while now, but have kept it to myself. 

I could see lower ltvs and higher MIPs in the future.

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