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A stern warning (or lack thereof) - Flickr is watching you.

Reblogger Mike Mueller
Education & Training with Tech and Social Media Consultant

I would have loved to have had this topic covered in REBarcamp San Francisco.

Such an important message, and a huge difference it could make in your online precence (overnight)!

I'm very sorry it hapened to Matt.

 

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Original content by Matt Stigliano

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photo courtesy of Flickr and their TOS

Flickr won't tolerate you and your real estate ways.

Flickr, the widely popular photo sharing service, is not going to let you abuse them anymore.  By abuse, I mean use them for commercial purposes.  It states in their terms of service that you won't use the site for commercial purposes, but I never really caught onto that.  Until recently.  Seems my content violated their terms of service (it was commercial in nature, no doubt about that) and they closed my account with even a warning.  Because there was no warning, I spent time emailing customer support and asking their Twitter account (@flickr) for help, advice, or at least an answer.  The only way to contact Flickr support is via email and the last time I had a problem (about 6 months ago)...well, I still haven't heard back from them.

While I respect Flickr's right to set rules and use them to control the site, I am not a huge fan of the way they handle it.  Without warning, my account is gone.  A PRO account (paid).  Gone, canceled, terminated, and deleted.  It's only $25, but I'm a little peeved that they were able to cancel my account and keep my money.  I spoke with Emily at customer support today and while I appreciated her taking the time to answer my questions, I felt that the robotic answers made Flickr's responses seem harsh and out of touch with the internet's customer service oriented push.

In asking about how they define commercial purposes, I was met with little more than a link: http://www.flickr.com/guidelines.gne

"Flickr is for personal use only. If we find you selling products, services, or yourself through your photostream, we will terminate your account."

So I ask the real estate agent public - how do you use Flickr?  I definitely stepped over the boundaries in using Flickr, of that there is no doubt (I admit, I rarely read a site's TOS).  How about those of you that have photo blogs?  Is your use of photos to showcase your town a commercial use?  When I asked Flickr support, they didn't have much of a solid answer other than the link above.  In addition, when you lose your account, you lose your username.  Gone forever.  Have you branded your Flickr page with a name you commonly use (such as my "rerockstar")?  What do you do when that is locked out forever?  I have a lot of unanswered questions thanks to Flickr support.

If we can't use Flickr to host "commercial" content, how can we search for Creative Commons licensing for "commercial" use?  It seems a bit awkward to me.  Admittedly, I'm just a bit bitter now, since I will have to go back through all my photos and recreate some blog pieces as well as all of my slide shows (which are the core of my Neighborhoods section on my site).

Next time you upload a photo to Flickr, think about it - is this for commercial use?  If it is, you may find yourself staring at the photo above - all over your blog and without your former username.

Comments(3)

Matt Stigliano
Kimberly Howell Properties (210) 646-HOME - San Antonio, TX

Mike - Thanks for re-blogging this.  I definitely hope more agents (or businesses) don't fall under the axe.  It hurt.  I'm still trying to gather my resources to get myself back on top.  It's not easy with all the links, that's for sure.  I'll get there though, I hope enough people read it to get them to understand (as much as they can) Flickr's TOS and what it means to us.

Aug 06, 2009 01:35 AM
Mike Mueller
Tech and Social Media Consultant - Walnut Creek, CA

I had a great conversation yesterday with Teresa Boardman about this.

BTW: I NEVER read the TOS - who does?

Aug 06, 2009 01:38 AM
Matt Stigliano
Kimberly Howell Properties (210) 646-HOME - San Antonio, TX

Mike - Yeah, TOS reading is about as fun as reading the IP logs of my website.  Actually, I'd rather read IP logs.  You'll have to fill me in on your talk with Teresa - would love to hear her thoughts.

Aug 10, 2009 08:14 AM