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Thursday evening I noticed something very interesting going on within the "financial media".  All of a sudden the evening before Friday's big jobs report many of the media outlets started to run stories about how great the jobs report on Friday was going to be, and how it was clearly going to show our economy had turned the corner.  Several financial analysts (and I use the term analysts lightly) suddenly downgraded their predictions for job losses to around 250k from much higher numbers and CNBC even took the effort of running a 1/2 hour special on how great the numbers were going to be.

Pumping up impending economic numbers in the financial media is not uncommon but this went FAR beyond anything I'd ever seen before.  It was pretty clear there was some type of coordinated leak.  The media outlets would have not stuck their necks out to the degree they did the evening before the numbers came out if they weren't sure of the outcome.  It's not uncommon for gov. administrations to influence the media this way, by leaking reports to create positive press but this tactic seems is being taken to an extreme level lately.

Sure enough Friday morning the jobs report came and we only had 247k job losses a huge improvement from previous months, <sarcasm>clearly a sign the recession is nearing it's end</sarcasm>.  Simply the that fact you saw unemployment rates decline at the same time you had 200k job losses should be a tip off that unemployment statistics are not all that they are cracked up to be.  In fact when you look inside the internals of the report you see a lot of interesting number fudging to make the headline number look much better than it should have been.  The report on the whole was certainly not what I would label as proof that our economy is on the mend.

One thing that pops out was the insanely huge number (422k) of people that "exited the workforce" in July. Due to the method unemployment statistics are calculated, they don't count.  One reason for this is many of the layoffs, particularly at large unionized companies happen through "early retirement" programs and thus don't effect the unemployment stats in the same way.  The other is as people use up their unemployment benefits without finding a job they drop off the reporting.  From the standpoint of economic health, it's still less people working, earning less money to spend and paying less taxes.  In fact if the US has a shrinking workforce at the same time our population is still expanding that is really bad news economically.

There were also some other one time items that added a positive influenced the jobs report more positively such as a large number of the jobs created were census workers, who will only be on the job for a couple months.  The birth-death model a model that's supposed to account for creation of jobs via new companies that otherwise don't show up in the statistics also showed by far and away the largest job creation during a July in history.  Never mind this is a completely ficticious number that just comes out of a computer model, not from any actual data.  These numbers get revised at the end of the year based off real tax withholding data.  So far tax withholding data from the first six months of the year suggests we had 500k-1m more job losses than the computer models say.

There seems to be a huge and coordinated initiative to spin and scew any economic data being presented right now, to increase public confidence.  It's really starting to bother me, I don't like being lied to or manipulated.  True, this happens all the time, but to the degree it's occuring right now makes me think there maybe a lot more fear in the gov. about our economic situation than they are letting on.

 

34 Comments on Jobs Report - Damn Lies and Statistics

AUG
08
2009
179,006 Points 13 Featured Posts

Matt, I have been thinking this same thing for some time now, "but to the degree it's occurring right now makes me think there maybe a lot more fear in the gov. about our economic situation than they are letting on."

Additionally, what I don't understand is how when 247,000 people lost their job this month, that the U-6 rate can decline from 16.5% in June to 16.3% in July.  The U-6 is supposed to "catch" those that have fallen out of the labor market.

4:02pm • #1
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Also unbelievable was the rally on Wall Street .... just enough to sucker in ordinary investors so that when professional traders take their profits next week there will be willing buyers.

4:07pm • #2
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Mark: I'll have to check but I believe U-6 still doesn't capture those people that fell out of the workforce.  This blog post claims that had it not been for the massive amount of people exiting the workforce U-6 would have been flat on the month and U-3 would have increased instead of fallen, but I haven't taken the time to attempt the math myself.

Stewart: Yeah, I'm still sticking by my prediction this is a sucker rally and we take out the market lows again late this fall.  The data seems to suggest it's been almost entirely driven by traders, high frequency trading and lots of short covering.  The institutional investors have mainly stayed away.  If it is the "fast money" driving it, it is likely to collapse just as fast as we went up and the retail investors piling in near the top will get killed again.  The so called "V bottom" is basically a myth, if you look a historical charts from many different markets an apparent "V bottom" is almost a dead givaway that it was not in fact "the bottom"

4:20pm • #3
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You wrote:  "It's really starting to bother me, I don't like being lied to or manipulated."

Get used to it.  Our government is totally into control.  Manipulating economic data is necessary to keep the eyes off the footnotes. 

The jobs data showed that Health & Welfare and government jobs showed the biggest growth.  Also not a surprise.

IMO, this economy will not even have an "L" recovery.  It will, if we are lucky, have a protected period of stagnation.  After all, about 25,000,000 American home owners are "out of the market economy".  The government has yet to factor that shrinkage of the consumers into their numbers.  All of their projections for the next year includes a projected 4% growth.  HA!

Wait until interest rates start to skyrocket.  How long can the fed continue to buy Fannie's toilet paper?? 

The government doublespeak has reach a level where not a word can be taken as face value. 

Just watch what they do and ignore what they say.

6:35pm • #4
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Hi Matt: I learned to never believe what I read in print (or see on tv).

:)

6:48pm • #5
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We saw these reports and felt the same -- there are so many people who have fallen off the job seeking roles because they have been looking for so long -- the reports "might" look better -- but in reality they are not.

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 Matt, Love your posts!  

7:00pm • #7
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There seems to be a huge and coordinated initiative to spin and scew any economic data being presented right now, to increase public confidence. 

Hi Matt,

That's possible, but why would they do it?  Won't the truth come out eventually?

Do you think they're trying to ramp up consumer confidence now so that people will spend heavily during the critical Christmas shopping season?

7:27pm • #8
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Bruce: Many people in the administration (and the last one too) truly believe our economic ills are simply a confidence problem.  If people's confidence increases they'll start buying things and our economy will recover.  That is not just a guess at what they are thinking, I've heard several key members of the administration make that statement in interviews. 

The main problems with this is that they won't take many of the steps needed to put our financial system back on a solid footing out of fear taking those steps would hurt confidence in the short term.  Treating it as a confidence problem allows them to avoid the tough decisions. 

There is also the fact that every administration wants to make themselves look good and that there policies are working.  They're were some mighty big promises made around the massive stimulus package.  If the stimulus package begins to appear as a success it gets easier to pass other initiatives like the health care bill.

8:34pm • #9
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Both Forbes and the Wall Street Journal published articles on this topic.  It's nice to see not all of the main stream media is taking the headline number at face value.

http://www.forbes.com/2009/08/08/jobs-unemployment-layoffs-business-washington-figures.html

 

8:48pm • #10
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Mark: I found the answer to your question in the Forbes article above. 

"He notes that in calculating its broadest jobless rate, the so-called "U-6," the Labor Department in 1994 stopped including unemployed workers who had stopped looking for a job for more than year."

So that's how U-6 went down even while we lost jobs.

8:55pm • #11
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Matt,

I never realized that html has finally progressed to include a tag for sarcasm. I've been waiting for that.

I read last week here in Maryland that they can't identify the number of jobs that have been created by the stimulous plan. The reason...the Feds haven't told them how to do the accounting yet.

Disraeli was right with his famous quote about statistics.

Rich

9:30pm • #12
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Unfortunatly most browser's don't seem to render my sarcasm tag correcty, hopefully it gets standard support in the next version of HTML.

9:36pm • #13
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Hi Matt -- I totally agree.  I don't trust a whole lot of what comes out of the feds, except for stating the total national debt keeps rising.  Underemployed, those no longer looking for work, etc., aren't counted in the unemployment stats, among other things.  Sometime's I think there are a bunch of Freshman 1st Lieutenants steering a large aircraft carrier using buoys as guidance with no captain on board, and you get a bunch of underinformed, relative and shallow opinions.

9:55pm • #14
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I don't think they counted the number of folks whose unemployement benefits ran out either.

Most jobs being created now are government for short terms effects.

10:24pm • #15
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Does it really surprise anybody that the numbers have been manipulated and are not truly representative?

11:09pm • #16
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09
2009
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I'm very cynical about what  I read in print.  What spin is the government going to put on the job situation next week.  I often check the BBC site to get a more global view of what is actually happening in our own country.

12:23am • #17
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When so many have lost their job already... the jobs lost numbers go down. New "non-government" jobs keeps declining...

The really scary thing brewing up is the number of people on the Extended Unemployment benefits that are set to run out starting in September.... unless it's extended even more with borrowed money. I'm actually shocked by how many people I personally know that are nearing the end of their Unemployment Benefits. Luckily... many of the ones I know own their homes free and clear but I'm sure there are quite a few that are not so lucky.

5:56am • #18
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Matt, I'm with you here.  It's amazing how less bad news, or not as bad news is now becoming good news!

7:44am • #19
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This administration has been very clever and good at spinning all kinds of stats.   It has also been really good at contradicting itself.  Remember Obama stating that he doesn't look at the stock market and later using the rising Dow as an example of the economy improving?  The media and the average person who voted for Obama doesn't care.  Anything he says is gold to them.

9:05am • #20
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Matt:  Thanks for the follow up.  That makes a lot of sense.  Apparently we need a new U-7 number to start tracking unemployment. ;)

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Matt- They are not counting the people who have given up looking for a job and are no longer getting unemployment and they are not counting the people forced into part time jobs instead of their full time jobs that they got laid off from.

I don't like being lied to but as far back as I can remember, they have been lying to us. Of course, it has gotten worse. But if you read Forgotten Man and see some of the horrific things that FDR did during the depression, like not allowing food to be sold while people are starving to keep the prices up on food!  Katerina

3:05pm • #22
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Matt - Then we have all the self-employed contractors, Realtors®, mortgage brokers, etc, whose income has dropped or disappeared. That's a huge chunk of potential consumers who have no confidence; and as to confidence, it cannot rise until there are fundamental reasons for it to do so.

4:23pm • #23

An old radio talk show host here in the Detroit area Mark Scott; coined the phrase "I love my country but I fear my government" -- nuff said.

5:09pm • #24
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We have a edia that largely supports this administration.  Many of the same folks that will spin this FOR the administration were questioning things a couple f years ago. 

But there is no doubt that the government, regardless of who might be in charge, is perfectly willing to drop transparency in order to meet its own goals.

9:20pm • #25
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2009
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The spin that gets entangled around everything sure is discouraging.  So where is the truth.. can it be found?

10:07pm • #26
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If they would just cut waste in gov't jobs, and cut the spending that is taking us down the wrong road, there would be a chance of recovery.

9:37pm • #27
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"What you do speaks so loudly I can't hear what you say." Not sure who said that but he or she was a pretty smart person.

10:30pm • #28
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I live in a town Forbes has voited to be #1 city for jobs - Austin, Texas. I scratch my head everytime I hear these types of statements. I have so many friends here in Austin that have been out of work, let's say now for about two years, it just blows my mind. They all have Master's Degrees and are good honest, altruistic people. They have applied for work at $10 hr and are overqualified; other jobs most likely they are "too old" (hey, is not the 50's the new 30's??) Maybe I dreamt that. 

I have a handful of potential customers that want to buy homes, however, the job market is eluding them - and their families! Personally, I think our country is pretty clueless about what's going on. My market lately has been the investor market. I can tell you this...Austin, Texas is an incredible place to invest. Current population now is @750k with an expected growth out to 2030 or 3 million. So, with that said, I'm staying put! You know what they say...."This too shall pass."

 

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