It all started with the signing of Economic treaty on August 19, which opened the way for Germany to Russian raw materials, that Hitler needed for his expansion plans, and without which all his plans were not really realistic.

And then on August 23, 1939, Molotov, as foreign minister for USSR (with smiling Joseph Stalin standing behind) and Ribbentrop, as foreign minister for Germany signed the Treaty of nonaggression.

Hitler was  extremely pleased with it. He needed it as soon as he could and in a private message to Stalin he asked that he arranges the meeting with German Foreign Minister. They met on August 23rd, and the signing happen right there.

The Supreme Soviet (Parliament) ratified the agreement, but they were not aware of a secret protocol. The Protocol specified who gets what and how the Europe was going to be divided. The Soviet Union was getting Bessarabia (now Moldova), Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, and Finland. Germany was getting parts of Poland and some other territories.

Stalin, Molotov & RibbentropThe Treaty was ratified on August 31, 1939, and Wehrmacht (German army) started the war next day, September 1, 1939. The WWII began.

We all know that the Soviet Union fought Germany in the war. But that's not how it started. The WWII started by Nazi Germany with the Soviet Union as allies. Red Army entered Poland territory September 17, and September 22 in Brest there was a military parade of Wehrmacht and the Red Army celebrating the victory over Poland and the transfer of the keys to Brest, which was a Polish city, to the Soviets according to the Secret Protocol.

It was later that the relationship between the best enemies began deteriorating, Stalin started dragging providing raw materials, and Hitler was getting increasingly getting angry, and it all ended on June 22, 1941, when German Armies cross the border of the Soviet Union in what was the biggest military operation in History - Plan Barbarossa.

The Soviet Union has always denied the existence of Secret protocol. They retrieved the German original in 1945 when they took Berlin, and declared the microfilm of the Protocol a fake. I emember Gorbachev saying that there has never been any Protocol, and he kept saying it until 1989, even though he knew about it existence. The Protocol was not good for the Soviet Union.

The troubled part is that today Russia is taking a stand that this Protocol was needed and was the only way the country could protect itself of the imminent war and got nearly 2-year delay, and also by annexing the Baltic republic was able to set the borders way further to the west.

I think it is not easy to find more BS than that. Yes, they got 2 years, but the June invason was unexpected by the Soviets, and the country was not ready for the war. Stalin did not believe that Hitler would do it to the partner.

Moving the borders did not help either as 2 weeks into the war all these annexed territories went under German control.

What it shows, however, is that Russia is on its path to becoming a bigger military and political player, and as usual, no rules or decency. It is all about political convenience, and today the idea of everything done right is warming the hearts of patriots, who betrayed the world 70 years ago. Are they ready to betray it today?

At the time they were talking with Germany behind the scenes, they were talking to Britain and France. It  is not clear why they did not get far enough with the West, and whose blame that was, but it is clear that the Soviet Union had chosen Nazi Germany, and this alliance is considered by today's Russia as the right one. A very frightening interpretation. It was bad in 1989, and suddenly it became good today. There is a reason why Russia was always calle "the country with unpredictable past".

Never a shame, just a matter of convenience

 
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Isn't hindsight a wonderful thing?  If only they knew in advance what we know now that we can look back.

2:35am • #1
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Jon:  What a great lesson in history.  And, I love the quote about Russia being "the country with the unpredictable past."  It must have been pretty handy for them to be able to re-write history to justify their present-day actions.

By the way... my father's parents were both from Lithuania, so this got pretty personal for me.  I cheered and cheered when Lithuania was finally able to break away from the Soviets.

2:36am • #2
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Thanks Jon,

This was grade school history for our generation,. The scary part is that it is no longer taught at all! The USSR has no copy right on revisionist history and no patten on socialist despots!

Bill

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Which supports my view of all politicians. 

Don't listen to what they say.  Watch what they do. 

Merely listening to politicians and believing what comes out of their lying mouths lets them buy time to get their plans in place to a point where it just may be too late to stop them from getting their plans in place and on autopilot. 

Has anyone else noticed what is actually happening in the U.S. government as we speak.  Or, are folks simply listening to what they say???

 

 

5:10am • #4
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Jon - a good history lesson and reminder. While we were taught this in history, once upon a time, as Bill said, it is also forgotten here. FDR also caved to Stalin, ceding even more than what Russia would have gotton from the secret protocol.

7:45am • #5
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Jon, this is just a wonderful history lesson.  I never understood what was behind the German attacks on Russia.  They leave so much out of our text books!

9:20am • #6

Lenn: Why yes. I have been paying attention and wow, what a breath of fresh air the past seven months have been. The previous eight years were a dismal failure on a multitude of levels. Obama is far from perfect, but he is trying to make the country a better place. Thanks you for noticing.

11:29am • #7
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"Why yes. I have been paying attention and wow, what a breath of fresh air the past seven months have been. The previous eight years were a dismal failure on a multitude of levels. Obama is far from perfect, but he is trying to make the country a better place. Thanks you for noticing."*

To merely type this accurate statement would be plagiarism so I was sure to footnote the reference.  :-)

 

* Scott Smith of Gloucester & Rockport, MA in 'The World Was Betrayed 70 Years Ago', August 28, 2009 at 11:29am.

 

1:00pm • #8
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Jon - Thank you for the lesson, I always appreciate learning new things.

1:00pm • #9
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We can learn a lot by watching how the Russians did things.  Politicians in Russia are no different than politicians in the US.  Never trust what they say at face value.  Also never trust the government's history books to give you the real story.

10:04pm • #11
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Richard - I think it is not about hindsight, but who you associate with.

12:19am • #12
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Karen Anne - wow, you have some Lithuanian roots. I have been to Lithuania once and I fell in love with this beautiful country. It is very different from Russia, where everything is huge. If you are on a train and you are going through taiga (forest), you would be seeing it for days, if these are fields, it is miles and miles.

Lithuania is like other European countries, small and everything is on a more human scale. You see a field, then there is a lake, a forest, and then a hillside. The eye is never bored.

They are going through a difficult time. They were independent and free from 1918 until 1940. One would think that what;s the problem, now you are free again. But it is a very slow and painful process. You can't simply say "bye socialism, hi capitalism". Capitalism is not a candy for deserting socialism, like many in the Eastern block think. It is more sweat than you ever imagined, and sweating is out of the question for many.

It is easier to rewrite a history book adjusting it to the new ruler, but it is way more difficult to make even a small step in any direction after destroying people's sense of ownership, individuality, entrepreneurship.

12:29am • #13
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Bill - this is unfortunate. My 17-year old grandson does not understand that he has grandparents, and I never had them, as they were exterminated by Nazi in 1941, and they were not in the army, they were not fighting, they simply happen to be Jews, and Jews in Russia.

Hitler for him is not really that far from Batman

12:32am • #14
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Lenn - we all have. Some are worrying at the U-turn, others are enjoying fresh air. I am among those who is worrying about the U-turn, as I think we could get something better for the trillions of dollars wasted than just... fresh air.

Isn't fresh air the biggest commodity for politicians?

12:36am • #15
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Mike - I responded to Bill's comment, and did not even think of what you made me think. The funny thing is that you, guys, here in America knew about it, but we back there in the Soviet Union didn't. It is not that I am reminding you about it, it is my relatively knew knowledge, and many there still did not get it,and with the efforts of today;s government in Russian, they would not. And that is scary part. Not denouncing a indecent and wrong move, but justify it as historical necessity.

Russians like to remind the world about the Munich's shameful agreement of 1938. Rightfully so. But it was denounced by every nation.

Russia's politics is not based on humanity or morals, only on today's convenience.

12:43am • #16
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Patricia - let's hope that this is just for history books.

12:44am • #17
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Interesting how often history repeats. There are important lessons that can be learned though it is unfortunate that these lessons often aren't taught today.
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Jon - In retrospect, there's one thing I'm not quite understanding.  The Soviets signed an agreement with Germany, but were they not aware of Hitler's own writings (ie, Mein Kampf)?

2:20am • #19
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Scott - Due to my age and background, I am very suspicious of Presidents trying the make a country a better place. I would say that I would feel more comfortable with the administration trying to preserve what is already done by other generations and build on that, rather then destroying it with the promise of reaching a brilliant future.

It is like promising to buildpalaces instead of shabby houses, but for that they need to level the shabbyhouses. And we all know that there is enough money for bulldozer only. But we are told not to worry because the minute we start tearing the houses down, the money miraculously would pop up in huge quantities.

So far we have watched billions disappearing in that miracle even since last January, but have not a single $billion miraculously falling from the blue.

As I said, I wholeheartedly agree with you that we are getting a lot of fresh air for Trillions of dollars.

12:19pm • #20
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Tim - I know that it is very tempting to see them in the same light as you see politicians in the US, but it is not the same. And the difference is so many times greater than the similarities.

I amy sound naive but in the US people do have power. They can elect and impeach. It may not be easy, but there is a due process and the mechanisms to do that.

You do not have that in Russia and for many reasons. Politicians and political landscape, and political culture there is very different, and on the other side the electorate is very different. It is the political frolicking under the sheets behind the scenes, pure power struggle.

But we have enough scare with our politicians here, so let's leave Russia alone. I do not think there will be serious changes in that respect for a long time to come. If they never condemned their bloody past, how can they build a democratic society? It is just a new name for the old game, and Putin is the soldier and the Master of it.

12:25pm • #21
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Charles - How true. Who would have imagined that in Russia, which suffered so much in WWII, skinheads with swastikas would be marching the downtown? Would anyone try it in 1965, he would be killed on the spot by angry people.

Veterans were the role models. Now they are very old, and do not look like heroes. They live poor miserable lives, and younger generation would rather not see them at all, and even less to admire.

Such a shame

12:30pm • #22
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Tchaka - The Soviet ideology (and socialist ideology in general) is based on practical applicability at any given moment, so alligning with Hitler was just a calculated move. They made a choice between Great Britain, and the rest of Western Europe and Hitler. As for what they write and what they say, the can't care less.

I suspect the West did not do a stellar diplomatic job in their negotiations with the Soviets, but to a degree I think it was not even that relevant. I think Stalin sensed that in the long run, they would be a stronger opponents to his expansion (not difference in the globality of plans to instill their regime on other nations) than Hitler, who, in their calculations, would be so weakened in the exhaustive war, that would become an easy target for the Soviets.

There is no decency and no morals there. If you read the newspapers published half a year prior to signing the Pact, they were so anti-germany, so blatantly aggressively against... and then 2 months prior to the signing the tone changed. No attacking of fascism, now we friends, doing business together.

Both had daggers behind their backs, and were just looking to stub the others. In a word - great partners.

 

12:52pm • #23

Jon: A better place. Yes, indeed. Unless you live in a bubble or in utopia in Daytona, isn't that something we, as Americans, should be striving for in the first place. We do not live in a static world. Things are constanttly changing. Sometimes for the better and sometimes not so. I would prefer that we become better than we were yesterday. In the early 20th century, women could note vote however, they can vote today (psst...and get elected too). Blacks can own property, vote and even marry white people. I thinks that makes it a better place, although the racists still believe their Bible tells them differently. Gay people can be open about whom them love with out being beaten and murdered...(scratch that one, gays are STILL being murdered for being born gay). See, we can become a better place. Shall I continue with the many ways we can become a BETTER PLACE or are you satisfied with what you have and they way things are?

6:27pm • #24
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Scott - history lessons work both ways. We become a better place is very different from Obama is trying to make America a better place. The difference is between democracies where people are moving in certain directions and certain individuals with power moving the nations in certain directions.

Unless, of course, you live  in Utopia called belief in one great man's powers

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Jon: So you live in your world and I will live in mine. I kinda like mine better.

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