Some reductions are not very pleasant like a reduction in pay or benefits, not good. A reduction in your weight, now there's a reason to be happy. Most things are made not to modified or reduced. If they are designed to be altered there are specific guidelines that are to be followed when making an alteration. Yet I find all manner of creative, not right, modifications to stuff all the time.reducer

Lately I have run into more than a few water heater TPR (Temperature Pressure Relief) valve discharge line modification. The installation requirements of these pipes are pretty straight forward. Here is a warning from the Watts Company a manufacturer of these valves.

WARNING: To avoid water damage or scalding due to valve operation, discharge line must be connected to valve outlet and run to a safe place of disposal. Discharge line must be as short as possible and be the same size as the valve discharge connection throughout its entire length. Discharge line must pitch downward from the valve and terminate at least 6" (152mm) above a drain where any discharge will be clearly visible. The discharge line shall terminate plain, not threaded. Discharge line material must conform to local plumbing codes or ASME requirements. Excessive length over 30' (9.14m), or use of more than four elbows or reducing discharge line size will cause a restriction and reduce the discharge capacity of the valve.up hill

This is fairly simple to understand. This information is printed on the yellow tag attached to the valves. See the tags in both water heater photos?

Does anyone read these tags???

The second photo shows a discharge pipe plumbed up, a no no, and has just in the picture alone 3 elbows. There were two more elbows on the pipe for a total of 5. Another no no.

Why all the fuss over a pipe and valve? Simply water heaters can become bombs. I have talked with more than a few people who seem to have a bit of dificulty in believing that a water can cause massive destruction.

In the last picture the devastation you see was caused by a 5 gallon water heater that blew up in a Massachuetts school. The average size water heater in most homes is 40 gallons.

Suspected causes for the blast were;

"Additionally several elements of the (TPR) valve were missing either by the force of the blast or they were removed prior to the blast by untrained personnel at the school."

destructionWhat may have occurred, all though this was not established conclusively, was the water heater was leaking or malfuctioning and someone modified the unit which led to the explosion.

As I said most things are not designed to be modified or altered.

One more thing regarding TPR valves. If you ever see yours leaking do not open the valve.  This can cause a sudden release of super hot steam or worse an explosion if the water heater is in an over temperature state.

The best thing to do before something like this occurs is to learn how to shut your water heater down in an emergency. If you see the valve leaking immeadiately shut down the unit and then call a licensed plumber to check out the cause of the problem and repair it.

Reduction and modifications are best left for our tummies.

James Quarello
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Wow.  Great photos & explanation.  Isn't it amazing that the yellow tag says "must pitch downward" and someone totally ignores it and does what they want.  We had a home recently where the hot water heater connection wasn't cut right and was duct-taped to work.  The seller was shocked.  He had paid for a company to install a new hot water heater and didn't know their installation was so shoddy.  He had it fixed for our buyer.  How would you know?  You expect a company to do what they promised.  Thank goodness for our home inspector!

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Susan, You hit on a very common and unfortunate occurrence. A homeowner hires a company and assumes the work to be done correctly and safely. How sad that we can not trust people to do their jobs correctly.

9:21am • #2
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Wow, how'd they get that TPR pipe to go through the supply pipe without leaking?  They're GOOOOD!

Good to see that water heater didn't take out the soda machine...

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Great explanation James.  It always amazes me the that the explosive power of our home water heaters can be "de-fused" when the TPR is correctly sized, installed and in otherwise good working order.  John

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Yikes that last photo is scary. But I still laughed at => Reduction and modifications are best left for our tummies.

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James,

Some botched up version of a TPR or drain has to be one of the most common things we find.

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Thanks for making me aware of some possible water heater dangers.

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James you should link the Utube video of the tank going through a structure 400 plus feet in the air:)

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Jay, Yea at least the kids could have soda because the caf was wrecked.

Alexander, It is an essential component.

Kate, A little levity. Can't be serious all the time. :)

Steve, No doubt. More common than it should be.

Irene, My pleasure.

Charlie, I don't think I've seen that particular one. I watched a very old film put out by Watts where they blew up a bunch of water heaters. That was cool!

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James, that's a scary picture.  I'm becoming afraid to be in the same house with a water heater after all the scary things you guys show!  Thanks, however, for the free advice.

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James, I was going to write about that today as I saw it in a house yesterday. You stole my thunder! Alas, I inspected a real 'challenging' property that had PLENTY of blog fodder...

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4:47am • #11
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Barbara, Nothing to be scared of, but you should be aware of the potential danger.

Michael, Put it on the back burner, it's a subject the bears repeating.

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Mr James,

Some of the stuff Mrs Kate does to me makes me so made maybe I should also have a TPR valve and drain.

Nutsy

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James: It's great if we can point out these things to a buyer. It's also great if a good inspector can point the out as well. Thanks!

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Nutsy, I heard you blew a gasket a long time ago.

Matt, This is a defect that any inspector should find and bring to the attention of the buyer.

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Nutsy, since you asked, I will explain. You do not have enough between your ears to justify a valve and drain... heheh

9:48am • #16

Thanks for the information James.  The problem I see so often is the valve either doesn't have a pipe off of it going to a drain, or they just stuck the water heater in a closet and there is no drain.

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Brian, I see thos types of problems way to often myself.

6:00pm • #18
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Brian, I see thos types of problems way to often myself.

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