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In case you missed the first part of my full reading of the proposed health care bill HR 3200, here it is:

A Layman's View of the Proposed Health Care Bill (HR 3200) - I am reading through the whole thing....slowly

After my first post on this topic, I was a little surprised at how many emails and phone calls I received, the overwhelming majority of which were in support of what I am trying to accomplish.  However, there were also a handful of not-so-nice messages mixed in.  One person called me "naive" (I feel like I am probably closer to "hardened" sometimes), and I was told that I shouldn't express a layman's opinion on this topic, but listen to others instead.  One person told me that I was ignoring the facts, and another one implied that I was being selfish.  I guess my skin got a bit thicker over the past few days, because here is the latest installment.  :)  I don't expect everyone to agree with me, but at least you will see where I am getting my information.

Here's what I am actually trying to do:

I want to form an opinion for myself based exclusively on the facts, rather than listening to so-called experts on either side.  I also hope to spur debate and discussion on this massive piece of proposed legislation.  

In my opinion, everyone's ideas are filtered through their experiences and priorities.  I have already shared what is important to me in my first post.  I have an online network of almost 17,000 people who regularly pay attention to what I say (this comes from my involvement on multiple platforms).  I am hoping to have at least a small impact on this critical debate.  After all, this is one of the few things that will affect everyone in this country.

The post I wrote a couple of days ago (link above) was forwarded to a U.S. Congressmen, a national TV personality, and a link will be included in a newspaper article set to be published next week in a city up north.  Additionally, it was re-posted on many blogs, and it was included in a massive email blast by one reader.  If you don't yet understand how powerful blogging can be, let that sink in for a moment.

This is an even longer post than before, and I am only a little over 10% of the way through the bill.  Without further ado, my observations are below.

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SEC. 201. ESTABLISHMENT OF HEALTH INSURANCE EXCHANGE; OUTLINE OF DUTIES; DEFINITIONS.
 
(b) Outline of Duties of Commissioner- In accordance with this subtitle and in coordination with appropriate Federal and State officials as provided under section 143(b), the Commissioner shall--

(1) under section 204 establish standards for, accept bids from, and negotiate and enter into contracts with, QHBP offering entities for the offering of health benefits plans through the Health Insurance Exchange, with different levels of benefits required under section 203, and including with respect to oversight and enforcement.

MY NOTE: Again, this seems to come back to the point I made in my original post.  Isn't the insurance industry already regulated at the state level?  I know that we have the Texas Department of Insurance for this stuff.  I wonder if this will add another layer of regulation, or if it will shift to the federal level instead.  As I mentioned previously, the newly-appointed Commissioner appears to have an amazing amount of responsibility and power.
 

 

SEC. 202. EXCHANGE-ELIGIBLE INDIVIDUALS AND EMPLOYERS.
(a) Access to Coverage- In accordance with this section, all individuals are eligible to obtain coverage through enrollment in an Exchange-participating health benefits plan offered through the Health Insurance Exchange unless such individuals are enrolled in another qualified health benefits plan or other acceptable coverage.

MY NOTE: Does this mean that only people with no insurance coverage at all are eligible, or does it mean that you have to cancel your current coverage if you are accepted into one of the health exchange plans?  I think it probably means the latter, but the meaning is certainly not clear at this point.  I hope this section is edited later.

 

(3) FAR NOT APPLICABLE- The provisions of the Federal Acquisition Regulation shall not apply to contracts between the Commissioner and QHBP offering entities for the offering of Exchange-participating health benefits plans under this title.

MY NOTE: I had to look this up to understand what the Federal Acquisition Regulation (FAR) actually does.  Basically, this is in place to regulate the purchase of good and services by the federal government.  Why is the Commissioner allowed to enter contracts without the normal safeguards in place for other agencies? 

 

SEC 204 (b)(4)  ENROLLMENT- The entity shall accept all enrollments under this subtitle, subject to such exceptions (such as capacity limitations) in accordance with the requirements under title I for a qualified health benefits plan. The entity shall notify the Commissioner if the entity projects or anticipates reaching such a capacity limitation that would result in a limitation in enrollment.

MY NOTE: Could someone explain to me why an insurance company would be limited to a specific number of enrollees?  This seems like a bad business plan to me.  I am just a real estate broker, but I think I would call this "a good problem to have", meaning that I would hire the necessary help to handle all of the clients that we have. 

I don't think a provision should be included to allow companies to invoke this "capacity limitation" to avoid covering specific people.  It seems like the type of thing that could easily lead to abuse.

 

SEC. 205. OUTREACH AND ENROLLMENT OF EXCHANGE-ELIGIBLE INDIVIDUALS AND EMPLOYERS IN EXCHANGE-PARTICIPATING HEALTH BENEFITS PLAN.

(b)(2)(B) SPECIAL ENROLLMENT- The Commissioner shall also provide for special enrollment periods to take into account special circumstances of individuals and employers, such as an individual who--

(i) loses acceptable coverage;

(ii) experiences a change in marital or other dependent status;

(iii) moves outside the service area of the Exchange-participating health benefits plan in which the individual is enrolled; or

(iv) experiences a significant change in income


MY NOTE: It's hard to argue with that section, but I'm sure someone will find a way to do so.  :)  Clearly, they are trying to make allowances for the current economic climate., which I can appreciate.

 

SEC. 205 (c)(2)(D) ensure that the Internet website described in subparagraph (A) and the information described in subparagraph (B) is developed using plain language (as defined in section 133(a)(2)).

MY NOTE: This section is one of several that allude to using "plain language" to describe benefits, etc. to the public.  Why is it not possible to do this with the bill itself?  I realize that this stuff is written by teams of attorneys, but this is something that will all of us, at least to some degree.  I guess it just seems ironic to me.

 


SEC 205 (d)(1) COVERAGE FOR CERTAIN NEWBORNS

(A) IN GENERAL- In the case of a child born in the United States who at the time of birth is not otherwise covered under acceptable coverage, for the period of time beginning on the date of birth and ending on the date the child otherwise is covered under acceptable coverage (or, if earlier, the end of the month in which the 60-day period, beginning on the date of birth, ends), the child shall be deemed

(i) to be a non-traditional Medicaid eligible individual (as defined in subsection (e)(5)) for purposes of this division and Medicaid; and

(ii) to have elected to enroll in Medicaid through the application of paragraph (3).

2(B) EXTENDED TREATMENT AS TRADITIONAL MEDICAID ELIGIBLE INDIVIDUAL- In the case of a child described in subparagraph (A) who at the end of the period referred to in such subparagraph is not otherwise covered under acceptable coverage, the child shall be deemed (until such time as the child obtains such coverage or the State otherwise makes a determination of the child's eligibility for medical assistance under its Medicaid plan pursuant to section 1943(c)(1) of the Social Security Act) to be a traditional Medicaid eligible individual described in section 1902(l)(1)(B) of such Act

MY NOTE: As I read this last night, I saw a lot of potential for major political disagreement over these paragraphs.  Since no distinction is made about the parents of the child born here in the U.S., this section would clearly cover newborns with parents who are here illegally, for at least the first 2 months.  As it stands right now, no one can be denied care if they are admitted into an emergency room in the U.S.  This is under the Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (EMTALA), which requires hospitals and ambulance services to provide care to anyone needing emergency treatment regardless of citizenship, legal status or ability to pay.  This section of the bill seems to grant even more benefits, providing for automatic coverage for anyone born on U.S. soil to be eligible for Medicare immediately.  Please note that it doesn't provide this for anyone who already has insurance in place.

As a father of four, I am obviously in favor of taking care of babies, who are utterly helpless.  However, I think this section has the potential to cause a huge influx of immigrants who want to take advantage of this loophole, once the word begins to spread.  This is bothersome to me, and I hope this is clarified further as the bill progresses into committee discussion.

 

SEC. 206 (c)(1) (1) ESTABLISHMENT; APPOINTMENT.--There is hereby established the Office of the Special Inspector General for the Health Insurance Exchange, to be headed by a Special Inspector General for the Health Insurance Exchange (in this subsection referred to as the ''Special Inspector General'') to be appointed by the President, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate.

(2) DUTIES- The Special Inspector General shall--

(A) conduct, supervise, and coordinate audits, evaluations and investigations of the Health Insurance Exchange to protect the integrity of the Health Insurance Exchange, as well as the health and welfare of participants in the Exchange;

(B) report both to the Commissioner and to the Congress regarding program and management problems and recommendations to correct them;

(C) have other duties (described in paragraphs (2) and (3) of section 121 of division A of Public Law 110-343) in relation to the duties described in the previous subparagraphs; and

(D) have the authorities provided in section 6 of the Inspector General Act of 1978 in carrying out duties under this paragraph.

MY NOTE: I got excited while reading this section, because I thought it was finally going to provide for some accountability for the Commissioner, too.  Unfortunately, this extra position that the bill seeks to create would REPORT to the Commissioner.  Darn.  This attempt at accountability is also controlled by the Commissioner, it seems. 

Furthermore, the Inspector General position terminates completely after five years.  And yes, I am sure.  It doesn't say that it's a five-year term.  It states, "(5) TERMINATION- The Office of the Special Inspector General shall terminate five years after the date of the enactment of this Act."  Why is that?

 

SEC. 207. HEALTH INSURANCE EXCHANGE TRUST FUND.

(b) Payments From Trust Fund- The Commissioner shall pay from time to time from the Trust Fund such amounts as the Commissioner determines are necessary to make payments to operate the Health Insurance Exchange, including payments under subtitle C (relating to affordability credits).

MY NOTE: Again, this appears to give one person carte blanche to determine how much money is needed to run the exchange.

(c) Transfers to Trust Fund-


(1) DEDICATED PAYMENTS- There is hereby appropriated to the Trust Fund amounts equivalent to the following:

(A) TAXES ON INDIVIDUALS NOT OBTAINING ACCEPTABLE COVERAGE- The amounts received in the Treasury under section 59B of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 (relating to requirement of health insurance coverage for individuals).

(B) EMPLOYMENT TAXES ON EMPLOYERS NOT PROVIDING ACCEPTABLE COVERAGE- The amounts received in the Treasury under section 3111(c) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 (relating to employers electing to not provide health benefits).

(C) EXCISE TAX ON FAILURES TO MEET CERTAIN HEALTH COVERAGE REQUIREMENTS- The amounts received in the Treasury under section 4980H(b) (relating to excise tax with respect to failure to meet health coverage participation requirements).

MY NOTES: Where do I start with this one?  In a nutshell, each subparagraph here appears to refer to something that is either repealed or that they are hoping to create with the bill itself.  Frankly, this seems to be lifted from a previous document, since some of the reference points are outdated.

Under section (A), it refers to amounts received under section 59B on the Internal Revenue Code of 1986.  Because of the intriguing title of that subparagraph, I wanted to see what the Code actually says in that section.  Based on my research today, it appears as though this section of the tax code was repealed on December 13, 1989.  How is it possible to collect funds under a law that no longer exists?

Here's a link to one place that I found this, on the Cornell University Law School website:

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/search/display.html?terms=59b&url=/uscode/html/uscode26/usc_sec_26_00000059---B000-.html

Under section (B), it refers to 3111 (c) of the same tax code.  This bill appears to create that section as part of the federal tax code(i.e. did not exist before).

As for section (C), it seems as though this would also create a new section within the tax code.  I found 4980G, but not H.

 

SEC. 208. OPTIONAL OPERATION OF STATE-BASED HEALTH INSURANCE EXCHANGES.

(b) Requirements for Approval -

(5) Such other requirements as the Commissioner may specify.

(2) TERMINATION; HEALTH INSURANCE EXCHANGE RESUMPTION OF FUNCTIONS- The Commissioner may terminate the approval (for some or all functions) of a State-based Health Insurance Exchange under this section if the Commissioner determines that such Exchange no longer meets the requirements of subsection (b) or is no longer capable of carrying out such functions in accordance with the requirements of this subtitle. In lieu of terminating such approval, the Commissioner may temporarily assume some or all functions of the State-based Health Insurance Exchange until such time as the Commissioner determines the State-based Health Insurance Exchange meets such requirements of subsection (b) and is capable of carrying out such functions in accordance with the requirements of this subtitle.

    MY NOTE: I think I am detecting a theme here.  What do you think?  This basically says that the Health Commissioner can dictate whatever requirements he/she feels are necessary for a state-based health insurance exchange to operate.  Then, it goes on in section (2) to state that the Commissioner can terminate an exchange with the same amount of unilateral power.  Basically, if this bill is passed, states will only be allowed to operate programs if the Health Commissioner approves the program.

 

I have read through 115 pages as of today.  I will return sometime soon with more of my input.  Thanks for reading!

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TYPOS/MISTAKES I FOUND:

Sec. 202 (h) (3) REPORT- Not later than January 1 of Y3, in Y6, and thereafter, the Commissioner shall submit... wrong year listed?

Sec. 207 (c)(1)(C) Presumably, the words, "of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986" need to be added, in order to make this section consistent.

 

     

 

 

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23 Comments on A Layman's View of the Proposed Health Care Bill (HR 3200) - Part Two (Title II, Subtitle A)

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02
2009
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Jason,

You are a brave soul to tackle this monumental task and I applaud your efforts to do this so you can make an informed decision! I appreciate your weeding through each point which our senators should also be doing. Thank you!! You are doing a great job!!

5:36pm • #1
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OK, I have tried and failed to make it through all this. I do believe from what I have gathered it is not an improvement but rather another bureaucracy! Great effort!

5:44pm • #2
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Another good one Jason and I commend you for using your brain, AGAIN, how dare you?!?!

Anyways with the non-citizens.  We pay for them anyways.  They come here now.  Take advantage of the system that cannot deny them emergency health care and then those of us that actually have to pay (or have insurance to get billed,) pays for it in the end through higher costs.  We can call that "dine and dash".

Heh.

5:49pm • #3

Jason, I really have to hand it to you on this one.  I try to read your post and when it is actually the part as written in the bill, I find myself skipping over it and going directly to your notes.  I, like you, think they should write it in everyday English. Thanks for taking th e time to try to let us know what actually is in there.  I have complained about congress not reading bills before they vote, but they probably can not understand the legalize either.

Linda Tremblay
5:58pm • #4
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Jason...

Doesn't a real estate agent have a "significant change in income" every day? Wow, I wonder who gets to define that phrase!

6:08pm • #5
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Jason - You're doing a terrific job. Keep at it.  Unbelievable that you were "told that I shouldn't express a layman's opinion..."  That's what's great, about this country.  Laymen are allowed to have AND express their opinions.

Some thoughts.

Sec 202 It may simply mean that you can't be enrolled in two programs i.e. obtain double coverage

SEC 204 (b)(4)  ENROLLMENT  Also not sure what they're trying to accomplish.  Is it meant to insure competition and prevent any one company from becoming a monopoly?  I certainly wouldn't want it to be a loophole to turn anyone down.

I know you've only scratched the surface and I'm sure there are points that need further debate, but I still don't see anything to cause mass hysteria.

6:17pm • #6
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I've been reading along with you Jason. And while I do feel that something must be done, my concern with today's installment is the enormous amount of leverage the newly formed commissioner seems to have.

 

6:44pm • #7
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Jason, we need to clone you!  What you are doing is so amazing.  I doubt that more than 10 members of Congress have read this thing. 

You're a good citizen, and this country would work a whole lot better if we all did what you're doing.  I'm in awe!

8:01pm • #8
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Jason - Great job so far. I feel like you have only scratched the surface. What we are finding out is that the bill will enable the white house to contol all of healthcare, if it's passed as is.

Do we really want anyone from either party to have that responsibility. Remember that the only doctors in the Senate are republicans, and we know what they think.

8:12pm • #9
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Jason - My thought when I read the capacity limitation portion was one of financial capacity not human capacity.  In other words, the insurance company would have a maximum leverage amount.  At the point where claims caused the company to near that threshold, they could not accept new enrollees.  Of course, the flaw in this theory is without new enrollees, the only ways out of the financial constraint is 1) raise rates, 2) negotiate lower costs, or 3) hope enough people stop making claims.  

8:21pm • #10
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Jason, I think you're doing an amazing job here. Like Linda said, I'm scanning this and going directly to your notes too.

8:22pm • #11

This is exciting!

Not only do we get different opinions about what the proposed bill is trying to say, but you are continuing to readdress earlier assumptions about what the previous sections may have meant. I'm looking forward to future installments! Keep up the open dialogue Jason, I'm really enjoying this.

I agree that some wording is very vague and/or confusing. Do we have a contract lawyer out there that can process some of this into more understandable terms? I have been listening to Randy Rhodes (a Radio Talk Show Host out of D.C.) and she has gone over this with a lawyer to help with the legalese, and her take on this has been fascinating, but I only get to catch about 20 minutes of her show at the end of my work day. Maybe we could get the same type of help here?

Either way, thanks for the info Jason and the open minded approach to this subject. As for the negative comments... well some of the comments are hard to read, but I guess I'd rather see people overly passionate about something this important than to sit around passively and not speak up at all. :)

Sunny Miller-O'Connor
8:39pm • #12
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Jason....are there cliff notes available?  LOL  That is such dry reading.  I appreciate you translating for us.

10:19pm • #13
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Lina - These posts ARE the Cliff's Notes.  I think I will market them later as Crouch Notes.  :)

10:22pm • #14
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Jason- While we may not read everything on the surface, there is always something going on underneath the surface. This bill is 1000 pages long and there is no where in this bill any tort reform which even Howard Dean said the reason why is because the trial lawyers won't allow tort reform. They make BILLIONS of dollars a year on fraudulent law suits. Of course, there are warranted law suits but I doubt that the majority of the money awarded goes to the victim of malpractise but rather to line the lawyers pockets. With just some tweaking in tort reform, we could save 100 to 200 Billion dollars a year which would easily pay for the 12 million people who are poor and uninsured. But that is not going to be in the bill.

10:51pm • #15
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03
2009
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Dude....I am remiss to say that I haven't been through the book yet.  However, from the parts I've read, I agree with your conclusions.  there's so much ambiguity and there's so much power going to one ruler.  The whole bill, I believe, is ambiguous and innocuous.  Here's my digression:

Health INSURANCE is not a right.  All people, legal and illegal already have access to healthcare.  Mike Saunder's told me that he hasn't had health insurance in 19 years, but has better health insurance now than whatever the government would provide him.  Health insurance is NOT a right.  I know you well enough to know that you (please take this affectionately) don't like to rock the boat.  In other words, you are so even with your flow that all types like you.  I, however, feel like sometimes things need to be called out and opinions need to be expressed.  I do think that there's a moral responsibility that God has given each one of us.  I love the fact that you're getting out of the real estate arena for a bit and into the moral arena AS THIS WILL AFFECT EVERYONE IN THE UNITED STATES.  Kudos to you.  Thanks for doing this homework.  I appreciate it and I appreciate you.  Again....THANKS.

8:37am • #16
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Jason, I have to echo what Linda said above.  I had to start going to your notes and then back up to try to understand this.  Quite honestly I don't trust anything that isn't clear and this proposal seems to have so many interpretations I find it incredulous that they are trying to put it into effect.  My private insurance just jumped (just for myself) from $887 to $1,143.00 a month....quite a hefty increase.  I STILL don't want the government making decisions on what care I can or cannot have.

8:49am • #17
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Jason, thank you for the wonderful Crouch Notes, I have read parts of this bill and I agree it gives tooo much unexplained power to 1 person, who is only accountable to the President.  Absolute power absolutely corrupts. (has been proved throughout history). 

 I believe if the government is meaning to be Transparent, there needs to be much more clairty in this and other bills before being voted on. The general public should be able to know exactly what they will be paying for, for people to think they will not pay for this somewhere somehow, is just plain silly. 

 Of course the public pays, or the ones who earn income do. The government does not GIVE anyone ANYTHING, they take tax dollars and redistribute the money.  The government has no ability to EARN money to give away except through taxes.  A simple concept that many people do not grasp.

9:17am • #18
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Jason - I don't know whether this will make you feel better or worse, but the level of authority being granted is not without precedent.  The Secretary of Homeland Security has control of "All functions of all officers, employees, and organizational units of the Department are vested in the Secretary."   In fact, the wording that creates each position is very similar. 

 

3:13pm • #19
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04
2009
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Jason,

I'm glad that somebody on Active Rain is making this a focal point of a conversation. I for one, don't fully understand it because I am listening to the media and depending on the biased network I am being told different things. All I know is that we have a serious issue with healthcare. I don't know if universal health care is the answer at all.  I do know that the gov't can barely run the post office and they compete with Fed-Ex & UPS. Interesting how the latter circumvented the process by knocking on doors and ringing doorbells. The Post Office didn't stir competition, it only gets in the way and labors micromanaging atmospheres that create horrible profit margins. What about the Social Security? Good God. Whose holding the Government accountable again?

1:38am • #20
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2009
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Jason,

I get a headache trying to make sense of it all and sometimes I think that is what the proponents of this legislation are banking on.  Too much power in one place makes me nervous and ambiguous wording of such powers is even worse.  It leads to abuse and usually someone (the little guy, us ) holding the bag.  Thanks so much for helping us wade through it all.

11:29am • #21
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2009
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Jason:  Regardless of anyone's personal views, they have to admire the fact that you are even attempting this monumental task!  I certainly appreciate the opportunity to read your observations and the comments made by so many here on AR.  It's a learning experience, for sure.

I was wondering though ... did the speech by the president the other night sway or change your opinion on anything? It would be interesting to know first-hand if it clarified anything for you or changed your outlook?

Will be watching for additional posts regarding your efforts ... and others.  Thanks again, Jason.

Gene 

1:55am • #22
OCT
26
2009

I am a Veteran and I use the "Public Option" that is available to Veterans. (Another words, I would rather use the VA than use a plan offered by Blue Cross & Blue Shield, Aetna or any other HMO). I use the VA facility in Fayetteville, AR. I have never had to wait more than 15 minutes to see my doctor. I get all my prescriptions for $7 a month. If I have anything I want the Doc to check out, other than the normal physical and blood work they do on me every time, I tell him and he does it. They do a complete physical and blood work each time. Even with all of this, it has never taken more than an hour and 30 minutes, in and out, and cost me $7. My friends who use the local, non-VA medical clinic, have a normal wait time of 1 - 3 hours just to get in to see the doctor. They can't believe it when I tell them about the VA clinic.

I don't know of 1 Congressmen, Senator, Veteran, anyone who is eligible for Medicare or State & Federal Employee who would not choose to use their "Public Option" and use Insurance through a Government subsidized provider.

To bad 30 million uninsured Americans currenlty don't have an option.

Maybe if we take another 30 years to come up with a perfect health care plan, one that the Insurance companies will approve of, we will get it done.

Side Note:  The U.S. has spent more in the Iraq war than it would cost to provide health care to every US citizen for the next several years ....

Steve
8:56am • #23

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