Barak Hussein Obama is planning a mass brainwashing of children in their classrooms from Pre-K through the Sixth grade next Tuesday, September 8, 2009.
If this doesn't get your attention, I don't know what will. You will not believe his agenda and if you have kids or grand kids you need to pass this info on. Voice your objection to this assault on how you want your kids to be served. Haven't you all had enough?
There is no reason that any child should be forced to participate in this activity.
I do not know what Obama will say--it is supposed to be a speech about succeeding in school. We'll see. I don't like the fact that parents are not being asked to give their permission.
Obama is infringing on turf where he doesn't belong.
The instructions to the teachers are below
This agenda was put out by the US Dept of Education (this department, among others should be abolished--we don't need government meddling in our schools.)
Menu of Classroom Activities
President Obama’s Address to Students Across America
(PreK‐6)
Produced by Teaching Ambassador Fellows, U.S. Department of Education
September 8, 2009
Before the Speech
•Teachers can build background knowledge about the President of the United States and his speech by reading books about presidents and Barack Obama.
•Teachers could motivate students by asking the following questions:
Who is the President of the United States?
What do you think it takes to be president?
To whom do you think the president is going to be speaking?
Why do you think he wants to speak to you?
What do you think he will say to you?
•Teachers can ask students to imagine that they are delivering a speech to all of the students in the United States.
If you were the president, what would you tell students?
What can students do to help in our schools?
•Teachers can chart ideas about what students would say.
Why is it important that we listen to the president and other elected officials, like the mayor, senators, members of congress, or the governor? Why is what they say important?
During the Speech
As the president speaks, teachers can ask students to write down key ideas or phrases that are important or personally meaningful. Students could use a note‐taking graphic organizer such as a “cluster web;” or, students could record their thoughts on sticky notes. Younger children could draw pictures and write as appropriate. As students listen to the speech, they could think about the following:
What is the president trying to tell me?
What is the president asking me to do?
What new ideas and actions is the president challenging me to think about?
• Students could record important parts of the speech where the president is asking them to do something. Students might think about the following:
What specific job is he asking me to do?
Is he asking anything of anyone else?
Teachers? Principals? Parents? The American people?
•Students could record questions they have while he is speaking and then discuss them after the speech. Younger children may need to dictate their questions.
After the Speech
•Teachers could ask students to share the ideas they recorded, exchange sticky notes, or place notes on a butcher‐paper poster in the classroom to discuss main ideas from the speech, such as citizenship, personal responsibility, and civic duty.
•Students could discuss their responses to the following questions:
What do you think the president wants us to do?
Does the speech make you want to do anything?
Are we able to do what President Obama is asking of us?
What would you like to tell the president?
Extension of the Speech
•Teachers could extend learning by having students:
•Create posters of their goals. Posters could be formatted in quadrants, puzzle pieces, or trails marked with the following labels: personal, academic, community, and country. Each area could be labeled with three steps for achieving goals in that area. It might make sense to focus first on personal and academic goals so that community and country goals can be more readily created.
•Write letters to themselves about how they can achieve their short‐term and long‐term education goals. Teachers would collect and redistribute these letters at an appropriate later date to enable students to monitor their progress.
•Write goals on colored index cards or precut designs to post around the classroom.
•Interview one another and share goals with the class to create a supportive community.
•Participate in school‐wide incentive programs or contests for those students who achieve their goals.
•Write about their goals in a variety of genres, such as poems, songs, and personal essays.
•Create artistic projects based on the themes of their goals.
•Graph individual progress toward goals.
Want to change the world order? Brainwash children. Control their thinking and their actions--
Education was used by Hitler to brainwash a generation to serve his diabolical ideals. I am not saying Obama is a Hitler, but he is definitely treading in places he shouldn't ... we have czars who are accountable to no one but the President. We have a President who is creating "lesson plans" for our children so that he can become their hero. He is an ego-maniac.
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I'm not a fan of the President, but while I tend to think this is an ego-driven activity to boost his poll numbers, I can't believe that he's going to tell elementary children anything controversial. The backlash would be huge and his polls aren't great to begin with. He knows that he's being watched and with the Tea Parties....he doesnt need to further inflame the moderates.
Let's not get carried away here. I agree with Karen that "the backlash would be huge," if it was anything over-the-top.
The reality is we live in a democracy and having our students exposed to our president is part of the learning process. I would guess that if parents are concerned they ought to watch also and process what he said with their children when they get home from school. Now for many parents that would be a novel experience; discussing what their children learned in school today.
What a scary thought! I am so thankful that my girls are close to graduating! They started off in Christian school, so I believe an awesome seed was planted at an Early age ~ this thought helps with them going off to college in the near future :~) As for Obama brainwashing them, they were raised by a very strong parent who truely believes in our country and the principals of our Founding Fathers! In high school, during the elections, the students were asked to "vote". I am proud to say my girls did not vote for the current president :~)
Karen and Steve, I am opposed to the department of Ed setting an agenda for class activities--this is the job of local school admin and teachers. We don't need them in the classroom. And, I trust Obama as far as I can throw him. I am also alarmed that this is a FIRST. While, teachers don't have to climb on board for the speech, the liberal ones CERTAINLY will and they will be sure to shape the minds of their students.
This "shaping minds to the way of the liberals" is a common occurence in education from PRE-K to Grad School.
Karen and Steve, I am opposed to the department of Ed setting an agenda for class activities--this is the job of local school admin and teachers. We don't need them in the classroom. And, I trust Obama as far as I can throw him. I am also alarmed that this is a FIRST. While, teachers don't have to climb on board for the speech, the liberal ones CERTAINLY will and they will be sure to shape the minds of their students.
This "shaping minds to the way of the liberals" is a common occurence in education from PRE-K to Grad School.
Kelli, you are fortunate, what my teacher sister-in-law tells me, and it's been my experience as well, most parents are no involved --all is left to teacher.
Wanda, believe me you'll be glad to know I am not a teacher. We don't need the president o tell us what you suggest. The majority of Americans ALREADY know this--and that's what parents should be teaching their children--you don't need OBAMA to do it... it would be far better if he focused on things like jobs, national security, and getting his nose out of healthcare.
You folks are just amazing. Paranoia sure is running rampant here. I am trying to come up with another word... other than "amazing"... to describe what I see in these comments... but the only other word that fits... is "sad."
I have just re-read the agenda for teachers to use in preparation for President Obama's presentation to the kids... for before it, during it, and afterwards. I really do NOT see what you are all so upset about.
You also mentioned that you would like to see the Department of Education abolished. Wasn't that something that Bill Bennett also wanted to do. He's another one afflicted with paranoia. No Department of Ed ? I suppose you all want to homeschool your children, too ? What a disaster.
John, I can see why homeschooling is gaining such popularity. In our district even our congressmans family homescholls, I wish I would have with my daughter.
Karen, I wouldn't expect you to "get it." Statistics for Children who are homeschooled show that they perform well above average. So you don't know what you're talking about. If you'd like to get educated on the matter, click the link
Hugh, when my kids were growing up we were very fortunate to be a a great public school system. Don't know if it's changed or not, but I think homeschooling is a great option!
John - I have to agree with what others have said, nothing in what you've written above poses a threat. If that is ALL that is promoted, then what's the problem?
The problem, I believe, is in the strong potential for the message to expand, or shift, to one promoting Obama and his political policies and stances, one promoting Big Government.
which, although mostly harmless, if not good, clearly goes over the line in one or two places, and goes right up to the line of controversy in others.
1:46 - "to advance stem-cell research" (fine - unless you're supporting forced-taxpayer-funding for embryonic stem-cell research - in which case it's going right up to the line of controversy)
3:17 - "to be of service to Barack Obama" (what happened to the concept of "Public Servant?" Now he wants to be "Public Massah" while we're supposed to be his slaves and serve him? Clearly over the line.)
3:54 - "to be a servant to our President" (repeated from above - to drive home the message? Again, clearly over the line.)
As they say, "the proof will be in the pudding." It's good to be aware of potential for problems, but don't jump to conclusions.
If obama wants to address school children then it should be done at night when the students are with their parents who have the right to turn him off.
Most teachers are liberal, my student is not. What will be the impact on his relationship with his teacher if on day one he disagrees with this message?
Would all you who just "don't get it" have been ok with President Bush speaking to your children? Let's be honest and admit that you would have been ticked off.
Politics does not belong in the schools and most especially not in elementary school where the kids are so easily influenced.
If obama wants to address school children then it should be done at night when the students are with their parents who have the right to turn him off.
Most teachers are liberal, my student is not. What will be the impact on his relationship with his teacher if on day one he disagrees with this message?
Would all you who just "don't get it" have been ok with President Bush speaking to your children? Let's be honest and admit that you would have been ticked off.
Politics does not belong in the schools and most especially not in elementary school where the kids are so easily influenced.
Hi John,Thanks for the update on our ruler..I wonder what color shirts the teacher's will be wearing to entice the children..We should unite and demand a stop to this a the day of service on 9/11 he is proposing as well!
David: my problem is that Obama has a forum that will be promoted by liberal teachers--I don't care what the content is--whether it's a positive, well-intentioned message or liberal bunk. My second problem is that LESSON PLAN has been created--and who knows how this will be used--teachers who are liberal have demonstrated over and over again, that they are pushing an agenda--this is just one more avenue for them to do their thing. By the way, that video sickens me.
Hey Kim, can you imagine...IMAGINE... the outcry, if Bush did as OBAMA and his Dept of Ed are doing? The press would fry him at the stake.
Wanda, get a life. What does you comment have to do with this post?
Bill Lauler:
BREAKING NEWS--I hear Obama is backing off a bit on some of the "agenda"
If the President wants to address school children about the importance of education I do not have a problem with that. He is an example of someone who reached a goal through education. Whether I agree with his policies or not is immaterial to his educational life experiences.
I think any address should be a prepared video that is optional to be shown if the Board of Education for each school approves of the content. Any lesson in civics offered to our children is a pre-approved curriculum. I do not think it should be a media event. I do not think it should be impromptu.
I have a problem with "Why is it important that we listen to the president and other elected officials, like the mayor, senators, members of congress, or the governor? Why is what they say important?"
We were all told as children"listen to your elders". Listen means to obey. Children K-6 grade are being given a message to obey. That is not the message I want a child during formative years given concerning political leaders.
Is the counterpoint to that message being supplied? Question your leaders? If not, we are not teaching our children to think for themselves we are encouraging them to be mindless sheep.
John I feel your post has a bible thumping on a pulpit somewhere. Do you have so little faith in the American system of government ( see Checks and Balances US. Govt) that you believe one man can take over this enormous diverse country. I wonder who in your state builds the schools, pays for the teachers and maintenance of facilities. I believe that the state collected tax’s and elected officials do that work, but lets keep government out of the school. I can not help but think about the first black students the national guard had to protect on the way into the southern school and the racists who decried the destruction of America by this act of govt. IS this different, yes, is it wrong, no. Do you as a parent (or your neighbors) need to talk to your children about this, yes. The reality is we should talk to our young students about everything they learn in school not just one speech by one man. In four years this man could be gone, but he is our President and the office holds value to this country and should get respect for that office. To through around the Hitler phrase is telling all of your friends and the whole country that they are ignorant fools and that all of the media, conservative and liberal will fall in line to support the new chancellor of the US and abolish our Senate, House of Rep’s and the Supreme Court. Not really likely is it, I Obama reaches out and inspires one child to go further with his education, we all win.
John - Now you are a bible thumping right winger. Actually, what is the difference in the propaganda Hitler did with the youth in Germany? I am sure what Hitler said to the youth at those meetings were encouraging success and education, but also made an idol of him. Obama should stay out of our children's classrooms and allow teachers and parents educate our children.
Government should stay out of education and especially the mindset of the youth of America.
Bonnie, good suggestions. I think the Obama administration prefers mindless sheep and are getting the surprise of the life as more and more Americans are speaking up and standing up for our rights.
Oly, where do you get that I am thumping my bible? Are you asleep? Do you realize that there are 44 CZARS appointed by this president, not accountable to anyone but him? Have you not witnessed the radical changes that this administration wants to foist on to this country--and how they want to PUSH through there agenda in spite of the rejection by the majority of Americans for proposed policies? Obama an inspiration? Why? Because he is black? I'd rather have Colin Powell speak to the children. He'd be a far better example of someone who set worthy goals, worked hard and served his country with honor and in a most meaningful way. If you think all that has been going on in the last 9 months is business as usual, you need to smell the coffee and stop drinking the koolAid.
Nick: You're right, I am to the right of the late Jerry Falwell. And, yes, Obama wants to be loved by the little ones and everyone, for that matter. He craves this kind of attention.
John- After reading that hate filled post by a young lady on this site now we know what to look forward to when obama takes over the class. Maybe racist Van Jones will show up also?
John your comments, "I am opposed to the department of Ed setting an agenda for class activities--this is the job of local school admin and teachers. We don't need them in the classroom. And, I trust Obama as far as I can throw him. I am also alarmed that this is a FIRST. While, teachers don't have to climb on board for the speech, the liberal ones CERTAINLY will and they will be sure to shape the minds of their students. This "shaping minds to the way of the liberals" is a common occurence in education from PRE-K to Grad School."
I trust you are an intelligent man, but I have to say you haven't done your homework. Most schools are giving the students a choice to watch or not watch the President's speech. The bottom line for you and others who seem hell bent on railing against this speech along with anything coming out of this administration is that you just can't stand the fact that Obama won the election! With that being said, he is trying to make changes to our country in areas that are broken or aren't fully functioning. I don't agree or fully understand everything he is doing (health care for example), as I have never agreed fully with what any of our administrations have done, but give the guy a chance. Yes he's progressive, but unlike the previous administration he isn't repressive and regressive. I suspect that nothing will change your position, but just give the guy a chance to excel for us or fail for us without all the NOISE from people like Nicholas who really needs lessons in humility, American values, and maybe even some "chill" pills!
Usually, the one who calls for another to be humble needs a good dose of humility themselves. I see you have the corner on "American Values". What is that exactly? Taking from others to give to others (redistribution of wealth) Having the Government insert itself into our lives; telling us what kind of cars we should drive, what kind of healthcare we should have? What we should eat, not eat?
I have done my homework. (By the way, have you taken the time to read the healthcare bill?,obviously you have not)
Progressive?
I take it this is what you want for you and your family:
Steve, There is nothing wrong with a rah rah educational message from the President. Personally I have no problem if he wants to do an infomercial for education. He is the perfect success story to appeal to young minds.
That is not the issue. It is the preparation before the speech, note taking during the speech, questions and answers after the speech, letter writing after the speech and various other activities.
This is not a 10 minute video. This is taking away from the lessons plans that are already in place and substituting a learning experience the Board of Education has not approved.
Most children are led. They do not know enough to say they want to opt out of the Presidents speech. To say they have free will in school is unrealistic. A third grader is not going to stand up and say they wish to be excused.
It is an opportunity to implant political messages, no matter how sublime in young impressionable minds.
We the people - support our educational system and pay teacher salaries through our local tax dollars. We have a right to object to curriculum and activities our children are exposed to.
We do not have time to sit back and give this guy a chance to fail. Today the unemployment rate hit a 26 year high. 9.7% up from 9.4% from the previous month. We are losing 200 thousands jobs per month.
This "guy" needs to focus on jobs and the economy which is an immediate need and what he was elected to do. Get the country under control and stop printing money we don't have.
John -
Just an update. Virginia my home state is refusing to broadcast the speech. It joins about 5 other states. This is not parents keeping children home from school. This is an entire state.
Virginia has a Democratic Governor Tim Kaine. Obama carried Virginia in the election. Evidently it is not just Republicans and the Glen Beck lovers who find this objectionable.
Now Bonnie, You make perfect sense unlike a few others posting on this issue.
We started to fail well before Obama's administration came to office. The plan that has been put in place for the economy will take time in order for us to see the full results. Are we moving in the right direction economically right now? What would those objecting to the administration's economic plan propose to do instead of what's being done currently to stabilize the economy? Economists with far greater minds than I will ever possess have agreed that something drastic had to be done or we would be in a full fledge recession that would equal the recession of the 1929-30's. Unemployment numbers would have been further depressed than they are now. Of course our involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan couldn't have impacted on our budget deficit, could it?
There are no easy answers and no easy solutions, but if Obama succeeds will you and others give him credit?
John you really don't have the time to come up to New Hampshire for any of our “KoolAid” but rather for the sake of your community stay put in sunny SC (I love going to Kiawah) get to work on really important things like your own state government's problems. Lot’s of bad national press lately.
Karen, I homeschool some of my kids off and on over the years, currently my 10th grader and guess what, they do better on aptitude and/or standardized testing than 90% of kids who have only had public schooling. You can't debate that with me!!! Most people are ignorant of the TRUE facts and stats regarding homeschooled kids. Do some research, you might be enlightened.
I stopped reading comments when I saw that rediculous dribble.
John, Here's my problem with this....yesterday my 5th grader was at school. Obama was brought up. She and a black friend got into a discussion and my daughter said we don't like Obama. The other girl asked her why and Kaylie told her what she knew from asking me questions about things she hears or sees on tv. She's a very inquisitive kid! The other girl said she didn't believe her and called her a racist. A RACIST! Nothing my daughter said had anything to do with RACE! It was all based on policy. I am sick, sick, sick of people calling us racist because we don't like Obama's policies!! I didn't like Clinton's either but no one called me racist! THIS IS REDICULOUS!
If Obama wants to talk to my kids, he can do it around 7 in the evening when I am there to listen with them rather than do it at school. I wasn't aware that Bush talked to the kids as well but at least I agreed with most of his policies. My kids will not attend school on Tuesday if they plan to air this.
"What would those objecting to the administration's economic plan propose..." the answer: let the FREE MARKET ECONOMY do its work"
Do I get an "A" teach?
Oh yeah, "A free market is one without economic intervention and regulation by government."
As to your last comment--I assume you're talking about Gov Sanford or is it our unemployment rate? Don't know which--neither has anything to do with the discussion.
John thanks for taking the time to search me out. I feel special, and you wouldn't get an A in American Government, sorry:)
"As to your last comment--I assume you're talking about Gov Sanford or is it our unemployment rate? Don't know which--neither has anything to do with the discussion." Nice cop-out, but they are relevant
Karen.Too bad that those of us who disagree with Obama's Admin are painted as racists--now where do you suppose a 5th grader gets the idea that anyone who doesn't like OBAMA is a racist? From their parents.
I am sure it is also hard for kids who are taught by any of those NEA loving liberal teachers, to speak up about how they feel or what they believe for fear that they will be ostrocized by their peers and or verbally attacked because they are not going along with the crowd (led by the teacher.)
Obama could address children--as past presidents have done--without all of the fanfare and lesson plans.
Steve, it matters not when we started to fail or under whose administration it was.
It matters that the unemployment rate in reality is not 9.7%. It's in double digits. The numbers being reported only encompass those currently receiving benefits. Not benefits that expired. Not those who gave up looking. Not those who took part time employment to survive.
If the fixes are working why are we losing 200 thousand jobs per month? How many new jobs are being created by this administration? You would need to create 200 thousand a month just to keep even. 300 thousand per month to chip away at the unemployment numbers. I'm no economist but that is simple math.
Viet Nam cost the American people in today's dollars 680 odd billion dollars. What was our economy like during those years? That war spanned Democratic and Republican presidencies.
Iraq has cost us to date 690 odd Billion dollars. The war alone did not create the mess we are in. Whether we were right or wrong is immaterial. Democrats as well as Republicans supported the President based on the information at hand at the time. Hind sight is 20/20.
Afghanistan was supported by all Americans and a coalition of nations. We were attacked just like Pearl Harbor. We had the responsibility to retaliate and we had allies to assist us. We probably did not do it forcibly enough or we would not be engaging now.
We threw billions of stimulus money into insurance companies with one hand With the other hand we want to enact legislation to offer public health care which in effect will run insurance companies out of business. Help me understand how that makes sense?
Parents dub Sept. 8 'Keep Your Kids at Home Day' Widespread movement to opt-out of Obama's televised speech to children Posted: September 03, 2009 9:33 pm Eastern
Following widespread concern about President Obama's nationally televised address to schoolchildren, many parents and schools are opting to forgo the Sept. 8 speech.
School officials have been asked to take a break from normal educational activities to allow students to view the speech from the president and participate in recommended brainstorming exercises following the broadcast. Obama will give the speech at Wakefield High School in Arlington, Va. The speech is scheduled to broadcast live at 12 noon EST on C-SPAN and at whitehouse.gov.
But parents across the nation are complaining about the speech taking up valuable classroom instruction time and possibly "indoctrinating" young children.
"He will also call for a shared responsibility and commitment on the part of students, parents and educators to ensure that every child in every school receives the best education possible so they can compete in the global economy for good jobs and live rewarding and productive lives as American citizens."
Some schools allow parents to opt-out
Donald Phillips, superintendent of California's Poway Unified School District, sent a letter to parents Wednesday announcing that the district "will not be encouraging" teachers to include the viewing of the president's speech as a part of a supplemental classroom learning activity. If teachers choose to do so, they must inform parents by Friday and give them an opportunity to opt-out of the Tuesday broadcast.
John - Sorry for taking so long to get back to you. I thought I'd subscribed, but never saw anything else. Mea culpa.
While it's true that many teachers are coming from a Liberal perspective, far from all hold that view. (Thankfully!) But that's more a cause for Parents to be more involved in their children's education, and to be instilling their values in their kids, and training them to be leaders not merely followers of the crowd.
And you've got a good point with regard to disrupting lesson plans. Although, I can see the value of "sharpening the saw" by getting a celebrity (Obama) to inspire kids to apply themselves to learning. By starting off the school year with a "sharp saw", the kids will be better equipped to learn the lessons, and the time then spent on the lessons will be more effectively (and efficiently) used.
I really liked Kim's suggestion, that Obama could address this in the evening - when most kids could be home with their parents. It would not only be promoting education, but also promoting building family-relationships. (Both things that kids need.)
Dave, Addressing "families" in the evening is a good idea. Most people don't have a problem with the President encouraging kids to do well in school. It's the extra activities and unmonitored discussions that will take place that causes the concern.
My question is do kids K-6 consider the President of the United States a role model? I'm not trying to be disrespectful, but Hannah Montana is a more recognizable figure to kids.
Who stands a better chance of getting the education message across? Daniel Radcliffe or Barack Obama?
John, we are from the same space on all these social agendas being push down our throats and our kids. I don't see how people don't see this coming. I guess all or many of the people here who say it ok business's are doing fine. I am living but no where near what it was in the past. Follow me on twitter @frankrubi. When the session is back in I for one will do my part in letting everyone know that I am against No Care Health Care. I guess the people above all will keep the health insurance the same once they realize what I am talking about. The hospital have already started to look at changing to co exist with the new system. I am a health care professional and still practice from time to time. There is no way the new system will work other than cutting out service. GOOD LUCK Patients! Bottom line I am against this guy talking about anything other than education. No more people like Van Jones who hate THE USA. GOD BLESS AMERICA. Why do you think he wants to talk to kids in school and not at home.
Bottom line is this MID TERM elections are coming and we will see that anything can be repealed.
Larry - "After reading that hate filled post by a young lady on this site now we know what to look forward to when obama takes over the class. .." So does your lack of balls (exemplified by speaking of another AR blogger behind their back) mean that you have a huge wallet as well?
Steve Bush - sadly, this is very much like arguing with 'the dining room table"... Good luck.:-)
Inna, Larry did not mention the blogger by name. I have no idea who he was referring to nor do I really care. His remark was discrete.
I was mentioned yesterday behind my back and by name on a blog which I did not contribute to. The posters were two of your like minded political AR friends who you champion on a regular basis. That blatant behavior was far more egregious than Larry's veiled reference.
Bonnie dearest, it's whom I champion, as you put it. As for the veiled reference - that's precisely what I have a problem with. See, I am one of those people that if I disagree with someone, I would let them know that on their blog. This way they are aware of my comment and have an opportunity to respond. To me, that's only fair.
So I stand by what I had stated to Larry initially - he is a bloody coward.:-)
Inna, The point is Larry did not mention the name of the author of the blog he read. How do you know he did not register his disagreement on that blog? I have no idea the identity of the blogger. Do you?
So let me see if I understand. It's ok to post a disagreement on a blog. That's fair.
It's not ok, at some other time to reference your disagreement with nameless author? That's not fair?
Inna, I'm going to send you a gross of red pens. That way you can correct not only my grammar, but everyone equally. That's fair isn't it?
Inna- The world does not revolve around you sweethart. Once again you are jumping to conclusions.
You appear to have some issues with anger, I have never run across such a vile woman in my life, well.... except for another "young lady" on AR.
Over the last year or so I have told you directly my positions and you dismiss them everytime, never give a opposing position or a reason why you hold those beliefs. The arguments you make are empty, and all you can respond with are insults.
Dave, the speech is a political event. Everything Obama does is for a political reason. Why is he doing this in the first place? why is he doing this now. When it comes to Obama, this is what you must ask--what is the underlying political angle.
Frank, what puzzles me is that the lefties want to ignore the outrage and paint all of those who oppose anything obama as an organized effort by the "rightt wing"
Inna, grow up already. And, the crude language doesn't help your cause.
Bonnie, do send the pens.
Frank, you could tell a liberal the truth but they just can't comprehend it--they love their hero too, too much
Larry, I think you're right about the anger thing.
My dear Larry - i never said you were referring to myself, it's the idea of this weird veiled (or discrete) calling out of other bloggers on posts they are unaware of that I find cowardly.
John - yeah, ok.
Really... I think It is Great that he is speaking to the children and I love Obama. Why don't you just home school your fun-de-mental kids. You are the brainwashed ones, the repugs are a bunch of losers and poor ones at that
Jane, yeah that's the answer-- home school our fun-de-mental kids,--gotta love that obama, sterling job he is doing, not only in education but also in economics, and let's not forget all of those GREEN JOBS he is creating--you just won't admit you have a president who is failing and has FAILED POLICIES--doesn't that sound familiar? Also, it would be nice if you learned how to communicate like a grown up and provide some substance instead of name-calling.
Inna, that's what I'd expect from you. Wow, really creative.
Bob, Obama is only interested in getting what he wants and America is waking up big time. The next thing we must go after are the 44 CZARS--his way of circumventing the constitution. Perhaps the Van Jones thing will get things started.
John ,
You are correct about the homeschoolers . The ones I have met and the ones I have worked with are unbelieveably smart. They are very clear headed and practical in their work and life decisions. I believe unlike Karen S. that there is a lot to be paranoid about. If the President just wanted to visit a few classrooms and say hello ...fine.
Larry - I think you're referring to a situation where I was addressing someone and they objected to me using their name. (Oddly... or not... they never did respond to my question about how they'd prefer to be addressed... when I was talking to them.) If so, that was not Inna, but rather someone else who holds similar views but has a serious infection of BDS.
Larry - I've no idea what you are talking about, but that's ok. Not the first time.
Just so we are on the same page - I think that ANY TIME a blogger on this network brings up another blogger in their post - they should have the decency to ADDRESS ANYTHING that blogger may have said that they disagree with on the post where the BLOGGER IN QUESTION has the opportunity to respond. Hope that's clear enough.
Inna, I agree with you totally. When a blogger is mentioned by name by another blogger, they should have the opportunity to respond to that which is said about them. Let me make that perfectly clear - by name.
Are you a selective in your admonishment or an equal opportunity one? Might be a good idea for you to apply the same level of fair play to your FRIENDS and admonish them equally. I'll wager you are a selective in who whom you admonish.
Well, Bonnie, then I guess there is no point in arguing. Did I comment on that particular thread? I am asking becuase you obviously disagree with whatever my reaction to behaviour you believe is abhorent, yet, i don't not recall either condoning or condemning anything on that post. In fact, I am pretty sure there is no comment from me at all. So are we done now?
I can't help but think that the venom spewing forth from the righteous right in these posts is exactly what decent people in our country should be concerned with. With slogans from Nicholas like "Heil Obama' and relating Obama's strategy to Hitler, as well as the fact that when John gets angry he lashes out and shuts another AR member out, and Larry wants Sarah Palin to speak after Obama so she can repudiate his lies to our children (NOW I WOULD PAY TO SEE THAT!), it suggests that we have more to fear from within than from outside our country right now.
John when do you and those who think like you plan to take up arms against the leftist pinky racist government that you so despise? Didn't firearms sales increase dramatically after Obama won the election? I’m just wondering, because maybe I need to get a gun too; better yet isn’t “the pen mightier than the sword?” If that be the case your cause is already defeated.
Steve - I don't expect your point to get across the righteous barriers... Sadly. I, too, would pay to see Sarah Palin address the nation's kids - I kind of miss her, for comedic reasons.:-)
Steve, your post is hilarious. You, too have not much to contribute. Just insults and barbs. Hope you can find better use of your time. And Inna's comments are not worth much, either. Birds of a feather...
P.S. read the text of the speech. I love how Obama has focused on "today's family" single moms, father's who have departed--his constituents. Read the number ot "I's" in the speech--you seen its all about The Bama.
--1/3RD OF OUR NATION'S CHILDREN DON'T GRADUATE HIGH SCHOOL--
I am sure HIS SPEECH will cure the problem: Steve, as an educator I am sure you know all about this.
John, when you wrote this rant, before the speech had been released, it was silly, out-of-line, but forgivable, given the sources from which you tend to gather your info. Now that the speech has been published, and you are still bitching in the worst way - this is no longer excusable behaviour, befitting neither an adult nor a Christian.
There are plenty of wrongs in the world than need fixing - why don't you try to concentrate your powers on that, instead of making a rather public ass of yourself.
John, thank you for giving the consummate right wing confused response :) I didn't insult and throw barbs. I quoted your fellow brethren and made observations based on fact. What's your problem? Are you starting to freek out? I don't hear facts which are important to me and most people! Stick to the facts and stop jabbing at the dark. Are you still pissed off you lost the war? Civil War! Let's get with the program and answer the questions, or are you running from the truth...again?
John, I heard a commentary today questioning how Van Jones got through the vetting process. Seems there is a question on the form that ask specifically about associations that might be of embarrassment to the administration.
He did not complete the form No Czar has completed the vetting form. No vetting has taken place with any of the Czars.
The administration was aware according to the reports, of his background but did not think it would be troublesome.
It was reported he was working on that speech over the weekend. If it had been finalized prior to the furor it would have been released already.
We pay for the buildings, the equipment and the salaries of teachers and staff. They work for us. We have a right to object to the activities that take place within those institutions.
Awwww. Hugh.. Don't you just feel so bad for people who resort to name calling? I would like to take the high road here butfrom the looks of it I'd guess shes way older than you... :) Have a great night....
Thank you for identifying yourselves and showing that you are as progressively backwards as John. You all despise it when you can't think of anything to say that shows any depth of knowledge on the subjects being discussed. I wonder Hugh and Tana how many young people you have given encouragement to over the years? Now knowing the burden of ignorance, based on your responses to the subjects being discussed in this blog, I'd easily conjecture little to none.
John is angry again so I've been banned. It's like the kid who gets angry picks up his toys and goes home, thereby ending the game. In this case he lost the debate because he can only surround himself with those who have nothing to say like Tana who says I name called. Where did I name call Tana? If I called you progressively backwards in this post as I did Hugh, than that's not name calling. It is through your deep and insightful post that you and Hugh showed a high level of ignorance. John also lost the debate because deep down he knows he has no solid foundation to base his claims on except to what he listens to in the deep right wing sector of those like him. Now he has new friends that will comfort him in his time of confusion. Hugh and Tana welcome to his sandbox:)
Steve, I'll leave your last comment here so that people can get a feel for your "logic."
34.6 Percent of children in Baltimore'cs city schools get a High School diplomas
Indianpolis 30.5%
Detroit 25 %
New York City 45.2%
Maybe Obama should make a trip to these cities schools and make a speech to mak it better.
I am not angry--just appalled by Obama lovers who are content to have the government insert themselves in every area of our lives--
steve, You got banned because you used can't conduct yourself civily and without making personal attacks--and your language is crude--very bad example for an educator--
Hugh and Tana, thanks for your comments and you see what we are dealing with here. Steve is the one in the know--as you can see he has all the answers. And, his comments are here for all to see.
You are so sad. You grasp at anything you can to support you. If you believe that those in your posts have been civil and haven't slandered than you've lost your way as a Christian and as an American, but God Bless You anyway. I promise I won't bother trying to get through to you any more, as Inna said, "your talking to the dinning room table."
Tana - I would very much like to know where you get your info from sometimes (like 99% of the time)... How do you know what was in the speech before, considering it was only released once, on Monday? Please, point me to a ligitimate source for that info, it it's not too much trouble.
John - in case you are not aware of it, Hugh has always been able to stand up for himself. I doubt he required your policing assistance.
Lastly - the banning and telling those who disagree with this asinine post is starting to remind me of Glenn Beck screaming at his callers to 'get off his phone' - in a way only a coliky psychotic toddler should be allowed to. I don't recal ever asking any of you to not comment on any of my posts, as much as we disagree, and as much as i find some things you say nasty and vicious in sentiment, which always goes deeper than any vulgarity I could possibly throw in your direction.
I think you've let fear affect you too much. We don't bite - we think. There is a difference.
Steve, If you want the facts and truly want to understand people who differ with your opinion let's try this. These are my objections, perhaps they are not Johns but they are shared by others.
The speech was troubling to many people because of trust. Obama has not endeared himself to many Americans by his actions. Those who disapprove of his performance- and the numbers are growing from both sides of the fence - do not trust him.
He has been stumping since he took office. The content of the speech due to the unknown context became troublesome to those who do not agree with him.
While other Presidents have addressed school children it never occurred in the midst of huge political controversy. Those speeches occurred 20-25 years ago when the political climate was completely different. Neither President was under sharp criticism for fiscal or domestic problems at the time.
Added to the unknown speech came the lesson plans from the Dept of Education. The Dept of Education is under the control of the President. Objectionable exercises included instructions for children to write to the President to tell him how YOU can join in and help him.
That smacks of organization. Community organization is a trademark of Obama. In this instance it appears his speech is the prelude to organizing our children.
Why would some Americans feel the President is not trustworthy? His actions over the last 8 months and his lack of transparency in spite of his promises.
Telling Americans to get out the way so he could march forward with his agenda was extremely abrasive and UnAmerican. That candid sentence translated to my way or the highway. It was a glimpse of the real Barack Obama rarely seen.
That is not how the leader of a democracy addresses the country. That is however how a leader of a socialists or communists country addresses the masses. You tell me any other President of the United States who has said something remotely similar to the American people when his policies were under fire?
Why would anyone object to the President encouraging children to do well in school? There is an incredible irony encouraging children to do well so they can contribute to their country.
Economics tells us it's going to be critical for our children and grandchildren to do well and earn lots of money so they can pay taxes and support the 9 trillion dollar plus deficit being piled on their backs.
The President who is encouraging them to stay in school so they can be gainfully employed and contribute to the country is the same one who is stealing their future from them.
Let's hope that is all he is encouraging them to do isstay in school. Why doesn't Obama stop trying to get his face on every channel and start fixing the mess he made of the debit he brought on us.
72% of the public no longer have faith in his stimulus..They want him to return the stimulus money to the taxpayer..That sure would stimulate our economy and save the housing market. This is according to the Gallup poll for all you liberals more facts you can slander.
Obama wants to be popular then he should start ruling according to the Gallup poll - Taxpayers seem to know more about stimulating the economy than the President...Oh maybe he has a different agenda and that is why we don't want him talking to our Children..anyone smell something that stinks yet? Looks like 3/4ths of these comments smell it.
Wake up America or sit and be destroyed, keep that denial coming and pretend this is the old America, just keep saying we conservatives are over reacting while you sit on your behinds and lose all your freedom..
Sorry for all the nasty little comments you opened yourself up to here, personally I find answering the liberals a waste of time but you are more gracious John..I am sick of trying to warn them...I wonder how God feels Hugh, he is much more patient and gracious than me but even this current life style is calling upon him to say - enough soon!
Steve Bush... Thanks for attacking me... I have NO idea what provoked you... I wasnt and never do call anyone names....What I was referring to is a comment from someone named JANE that called Hugh a name....(the comment is now deleted) I was joking more than anything... it had nothing to do with you... I have no idea who you are and have never seen your name before. But I certainly hope you have a great day. You won't get a rise out of me... You might work on someone else though.... :)
When Bush spoke to students, Democrats investigated, held hearings
By: BYRON YORK Chief Political Correspondent 09/08/09 7:11 AM EDT
The controversy over President Obama's speech to the nation's schoolchildren will likely be over shortly after Obama speaks today at Wakefield High School in Arlington, Virginia. But when President George H.W. Bush delivered a similar speech on October 1, 1991, from Alice Deal Junior High School in Washington DC, the controversy was just beginning. Democrats, then the majority party in Congress, not only denounced Bush's speech -- they also ordered the General Accounting Office to investigate its production and later summoned top Bush administration officials to Capitol Hill for an extensive hearing on the issue.
Unlike the Obama speech, in 1991 most of the controversy came after, not before, the president's school appearance. The day after Bush spoke, the Washington Post published a front-page story suggesting the speech was carefully staged for the president's political benefit. "The White House turned a Northwest Washington junior high classroom into a television studio and its students into props," the Post reported.
With the Post article in hand, Democrats pounced. "The Department of Education should not be producing paid political advertising for the president, it should be helping us to produce smarter students," said Richard Gephardt, then the House Majority Leader. "And the president should be doing more about education than saying, 'Lights, camera, action.'"
Democrats did not stop with words. Rep. William Ford, then chairman of the House Education and Labor Committee, ordered the General Accounting Office to investigate the cost and legality of Bush's appearance. On October 17, 1991, Ford summoned then-Education Secretary Lamar Alexander and other top Bush administration officials to testify at a hearing devoted to the speech. "The hearing this morning is to really examine the expenditure of $26,750 of the Department of Education funds to produce and televise an appearance by President Bush at Alice Deal Junior High School in Washington, DC," Ford began. "As the chairman of the committee charged with the authorization and implementation of education programs, I am very much interested in the justification, rationale for giving the White House scarce education funds to produce a media event."
Unfortunately for Ford, the General Accounting Office concluded that the Bush administration had not acted improperly. "The speech itself and the use of the department's funds to support it, including the cost of the production contract, appear to be legal," the GAO wrote in a letter to Chairman Ford. "The speech also does not appear to have violated the restrictions on the use of appropriations for publicity and propaganda."
That didn't stop Democratic allies from taking their own shots at Bush. The National Education Association denounced the speech, saying it "cannot endorse a president who spends $26,000 of taxpayers' money on a staged media event at Alice Deal Junior High School in Washington, D.C. -- while cutting school lunch funds for our neediest youngsters."
Lost in all the denouncing and investigating was the fact that Bush's speech itself, like Obama's today, was entirely unremarkable. "Block out the kids who think it's not cool to be smart," the president told students. "If someone goofs off today, are they cool? Are they still cool years from now, when they're stuck in a dead end job. Don't let peer pressure stand between you and your dreams.
Do you have any idea how silly you look? Are you acquainted with the basic human value of working hard and succeeding without whining about your circumstances? I'm thinking you need to take a lesson from Obama's speech because that's the crux of his message. These are the very family values the republicans have espoused for decades. That republicans don't stand behind his speech is beyond hypocrisy... it's just plain shameful.
Bonnie thanks for the comment--(they) "Added to the unknown speech (it) came the lesson plans from the Dept of Education." This is the crux of the matter. Bush, didn't have any hidden agenda. everything Obama does is calulated. He revised his speech because of the unexpected respones of so many who took exception to the lesson plan aspect, particularly.
Mary Said: "Wake up America or sit and be destroyed, keep that denial coming and pretend this is the old America, just keep saying we conservatives are over reacting while you sit on your behinds and lose all your freedom.." and I say, AMEN.
Tana, I wouldn't give steve another thought--he is only doing what he knows how to do...
Jennifer, yes it was a wonderful speech-- the Communist News Network (CNN) was drooling all over it--you don't "get it" and I'd be wasting my time trying to convince the likes of you and your pals. And like your pals, you have to stoop to remarks like" do you know how silly you look" Grow Up.
Yeah, that was the re-written edited version after the Public attcked Obama's speech..It all looks so sweet and good. Did you watch the Hitler video not much difference.
John You forgot to say the one difference why no liberals bothered Obama--Because he is one of them so that makes his speech roses and candy except for the arsenic and poison under the subliminal messages that will arise later..If they could advance that they would MIND CONTROL SPECIALISTS FILL NEW POSITION AT THE WHITE HOUSE will run an ad soon!
Speaking of graduation rates, I do think it might be a good idea for Obama to speak to specific cities, but also state-wide broadcasts. For example, South Carolina has one of the worst graduation rates in the country.....he should make multiple visits/broadcasts there.
Me and 'my friends'? I'm in no particular league here and your assumption that I am - or that I'm of a particular political stripe - is the same kind of simplistic thinking that invites a less than glowing assessment of this post. Yes, you DO look silly here. And calling CNN the communist news network is a perfect example of that. Very childish. But don't mind me... I just stopped by for a quick laugh.
The Bama doesn't have to travel that far! The DC public schools are rated third worst in the nation, perhaps obama should spend time there--it's pretty close to home wouldn't you say? Then, he'd have more time to work out a bi-partisan healthcare program with republicans who he hasn't met with since April --and when they asked for a meeting he declined. Part of his talk to the kiddies could be about the importance of teamwork.
(By the way, Florida High Schools rank near the bottom as well.)
And the Obama administration saw fit to discontinue the Opportunity Scholarship program--open to just for 1700 families for a measly $7500 per kid/year--(I mean compared to trillions of dollars, $7500/ year is chump change)-- that money allowed families to get their kids out of the DC public school system into private schools. These vouchers let students get out of a system that only graduates 59% of students and only a fifth of those end up going to college. DC area private schools graduate close to 100% And I suppose you know why, right?
You know why this program is discontinued? The NEA doesn't really want the admin funding anything other than public education--NEA represents lots of votes for your pres.and his Democrat cronies.
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Following widespread concern about President Obama's nationally televised address to schoolchildren, many parents and schools are opting to forgo the Sept. 8 speech.
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I'm not a fan of the President, but while I tend to think this is an ego-driven activity to boost his poll numbers, I can't believe that he's going to tell elementary children anything controversial. The backlash would be huge and his polls aren't great to begin with. He knows that he's being watched and with the Tea Parties....he doesnt need to further inflame the moderates.