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What's Wrong With This Poster ?

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Real Estate Agent with New Home Hunters of Fort Worth and Tarrant County

A few days ago I was reading a post by one of my... shall we say... "more conservative" friends.  She was writing about the typical conservative talking points that many of her "tribe" enjoy... when out of nowhere... the poster below was shown in her post.

I believe the original post was about all the "upset" that the far right was "feeling" about President Obama spending some time speaking to the nation's children... trying to impress upon them the importance of staying in school... and of making the best of their educational opportunities.

                    

And then came this poster above.  I think the "upset" was something like... "Can you imagine... going into a classroom in our nation's public schools... and seeing that the teacher has posted THIS... on one of the classroom bulletin boards."

For those who may be having truble reading the poster... is says...

"I Pledge Allegiance... to the Earth... and all the LIFE which it supports... ONE PLANET, in our care, irreplaceable, with SUSTENANCE and RESPECT FOR ALL."

The post writer went on and on... just piling on "upset" after "upset" about this horrible poster.  It was "un-American"... it was somehow anti-Christian... and these poor folks were just "beside themselves" with their upset.

So... dear readers... I ask your help.  What is wrong with this poster ?

Do you... see it as somehow "un-American ?"

And finally... do you see it as somehow being "anti-Christian ?"

Help me out here... I just don't get it ?

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Bonnie Vaughan
Scranton, PA
CNE SFR - Buyers/Sellers - Lackawanna & Surroundin

Inna, how nice to see, true to your word you are an equal opportunity admonisher!

Sep 09, 2009 06:36 AM
Susan Mangigian
RE/MAX Preferred - West Chester, PA
Chester & Delaware County Homes, Delaware and Ches

Well if our children are being used to ram home an agenda as a result of this speech, I'd welcome the agenda of trying harder, not letting today's circumstances affect your tomorrows, never giving up and all of the positive things our President had to say.  It's time to put this to rest.  The speech was wonderful, it lifted our children up, and hopefully, some, like my son, actually listened to it and came away with feelings of hope.  Not such a bad thing in this world. 

Oh, and my mom smoked while I was on her lap growing up!   Since I'm 50, I'm guessing a lot of moms did, mainly because they didn't know any better.

Sep 09, 2009 06:56 AM
Bonnie Vaughan
Scranton, PA
CNE SFR - Buyers/Sellers - Lackawanna & Surroundin

Susan, At the time we smoked it was just becoming an issue.  My reference was just an illustration of how our children have been used to deliver messages to sway habits or opinions.

The classroom is being used to discuss topics like health care and gay marriage.  I wrote a blog about a child who was being ridiculed by her liberal teacher because she disagreed.  The child in question was an 11th grader from Quakertown Pa.

If a panel of students was formed one group representing the pro and one representing to debate in front of the class, I would not see a problem with that.  That would be an exercise in democracy.

Sep 09, 2009 07:21 AM
Susan Mangigian
RE/MAX Preferred - West Chester, PA
Chester & Delaware County Homes, Delaware and Ches

Bonnie,  I was not implying anything about you with my comment about my mom.  It was just done then.  My sister smoked through her daughter's entire childhood and still smokes, and we certainly knew better at some point during her childhood.  I apologize if I came across as putting you down for it.  It was not my intention.

I'm sure there are also very conservative teachers that put children down for disagreeing.  Both sides would be wrong in doing so.

Sep 09, 2009 07:52 AM
Bonnie Vaughan
Scranton, PA
CNE SFR - Buyers/Sellers - Lackawanna & Surroundin

Susan, No offense taken.  I was offended when my child was turned into an in home anti smoking campaign.

You also make a valid point that there is an equal risk that a conversative teacher could do the same thing.  Consequently we should be outraged when ANY teacher strays into that terriority.

 

Sep 09, 2009 08:04 AM
Bonnie Vaughan
Scranton, PA
CNE SFR - Buyers/Sellers - Lackawanna & Surroundin

What's Wrong With This Poster?

The I Pledge Poster is a Unitarian Univeralist Congregation Pledge.  It is therefore religious in nature and should be prohibited in the classroom.

It is found for sale on a website http://www.northernsun.com/n/s/index.html They supply all manner of products delivering liberal and in some instances offensive messages.

Among the selections are: Sara Palin SHUT THE HELL UP tees.

WAS COLUMBUS A TERRORIST OR ILLEGAL ALIEN? bumper sticker.

UNIVERSAL SINGLE PAYER HEALTH CARE button

DARWIN Fish Magnets

The selections include Pro Obama material, Pro Choice, Pagan, Unitarian Universalism, Anti Bush, Pro Immigration to name a few.

So would one surmise that the teacher who posted this in the classroom had both a liberal and religious agenda?

Left wing or right wing – if it carries political, pagan or any religious oriented message it does not belong in the classroom!


 

 

 

Sep 09, 2009 08:08 AM
Alice Linahan
Voices Empower - Argyle, TX

Bonnie,

Bravo, Bravo!!!

You are right on target!!

As I stated on your blog Obama's marketing machine has been at work on his agenda and using our children is just one more piece of HIS pie.

 You can't tell me this is not planned to coinside with President Obama's speech!!

Get Schooled: Nickelodeon & friends want your kids to "change the system"

By Michelle Malkin  •  September 8, 2009 10:14 PM

Longtime readers are aware of the left-wing bent of children's TV network Nickelodeon.

They p.c.-i-fied the Alamo in 2005.

They went moonbatty on the military and the war on terror in 2007.

And they pushed pro-illegal alien amnesty propaganda in 2008.

Well, they're at it again, along with liberal philanthropists, bloggers, and the Viacom conglomerate - launching a new initiative in conjunction with President Obama's education campaign:

The launch of Get Schooled, at the Paramount Pictures lot, includes a conference featuring a line-up of distinguished speakers: Bill Gates, Philippe Dauman, U.S. Deputy Secretary of Education Tony Miller, filmmaker Davis Guggenheim, author and political columnist Arianna Huffington, New York City Department of Education Chancellor Joel Klein and Los Angeles-area High School Athletic Director Stephen Minix. The education conference will be attended by an audience of almost one thousand - including corporate and nonprofit partners, students, thought leaders, celebrities and other education stakeholders. Its goal is to highlight fresh perspectives on ways to dramatically increase high school graduation rates and college completion rates. The speakers will draw from their personal and professional experiences, sharing insights on how to ensure that all students receive a top-notch education and are ready to compete in a global marketplace.

The launch events on the Paramount Pictures lot also include the premiere of the Get Schooled: You Have the Right documentary featuring President Barack Obama, Kelly Clarkson and LeBron James, and three professionals who work alongside them, which will air across all of Viacom's U.S. networks, including BET, MTV, VH1, CMT, Comedy Central, Spike TV, TV Land and Nickelodeon, at 8
p.m. Eastern/Pacific and 7 p.m. Central.

All sounds innocuous, just like Obama's speech today.

But the supporting website has the same activist, entitlement culture-nurturing bent of the White House education guides: "I want, I want, I want."

How about "I WANT TO MASTER CORE ACADEMIC SUBJECTS?"

As I've pointed out repeatedly over the last week, Obama/Ayers/Klonsky and company are not interested in imparting knowledge. They are interested in creating "social justice" activists.

Accordingly, Get Schooled features a "student bill of rights." (Hey, how about just learning the original Bill of Rights?)

There's a "Write your governor" action campaign for the junior lobbyists to press for more education funding and higher teacher salaries:

And look, it's the same "revolutionary" rhetoric perfected by Obama's education "comrade" Bill Ayers and the recently departed Van Jones:

But never mind all this. There's no political agenda here. Yea Right!!

 

Sep 09, 2009 08:25 AM
Charles Buell
Charles Buell Inspections Inc. - Seattle, WA
Seattle Home Inspector

In some ways I think that we have been riding the horse in the wrong direction really hard and putting it up wet for so long we actually think that the poor horse knew where it was going----now that it would appear that the horse knows where it is going people are freaking out----I say give the horse a chance.

Sep 09, 2009 08:39 AM
Bonnie Vaughan
Scranton, PA
CNE SFR - Buyers/Sellers - Lackawanna & Surroundin

Charles, When the horse comes from the same barn where they show their colors in this manner -


 

 

 

 

 

I would sooner give a nag a chance.


 

Sep 09, 2009 09:00 AM
Charles Buell
Charles Buell Inspections Inc. - Seattle, WA
Seattle Home Inspector

Hey, I have one of those magnets on my fridge too:)

Sep 09, 2009 09:06 AM
Inna Hardison
ha media group - Orlando, FL
Wordpress for Real Estate & Design, Print HaMedia Group

Bonnie - and yet, there is absolutely nothing wrong with that poster in this blog.  There is also absolutely nothing wrong with the President's speech to youngsters, and no matter how hard you try to spin it, you will not be able to inject evil where there was none.  You might, however, look rather silly trying.

Sep 09, 2009 10:01 AM
Bonnie Vaughan
Scranton, PA
CNE SFR - Buyers/Sellers - Lackawanna & Surroundin

Inna, The poster is a religious/pagan pledge.  There is something wrong with it.  It does not belong in a public school.

I did not say anything was wrong with the speech. Stick to the point and quote me accurately instead of being Gumby.

My Statement was:No one objected to the President delivering a speech to children providing the focus was educational.

Kindly show me how you can construe that I objected to the President addressing students.  The evil that lurks here are those who twist and manipulate the words of others for their self serving agenda.

 

Sep 09, 2009 10:49 AM
Karen Anne Stone
New Home Hunters of Fort Worth and Tarrant County - Fort Worth, TX
Fort Worth Real Estate

Previously in this comment I had asked Alice and Bonnie to "tone down" their comments, delete the links, and more or less, take out what I thought were the more "over the edge" parts.  I requested that they do that... and said I would delete them if it didn't happen.

After being emailed by several of the above commentors, I have decided to just simply leave the comments as they are... in the interest of allowing both sides of this issue to fully show their positions.  Sorry for the confusion.

Sep 09, 2009 11:21 AM
Bonnie Vaughan
Scranton, PA
CNE SFR - Buyers/Sellers - Lackawanna & Surroundin

Karen Anne, I am not familiar with any rules regarding the use of capital letters or colored text. As a matter of fact we all just had a wonderful 3 part lesson on colored text in blogs and comments that was a featured post.  If it was against AR policy I'm sure it would not have been a featured post.  As a matter of fact it was encouraged for members to take advantage of.

I did not write in caps so I have no idea what you are referring to. 

Many posters in support of their position use links in comments as reference to  support their position. It goes on all the time,  If that is against the AR community rules I should think it would be available for review someplace.

I did not hijack your post. I followed the thread that had already been started previously.

Delete what you want, but I suggest that if you have such iron clad hard fast rules about your blog and what you consider fair play, that you make full disclosure in advance so all posters know the game plan.

Sep 09, 2009 11:38 AM
Karen Anne Stone
New Home Hunters of Fort Worth and Tarrant County - Fort Worth, TX
Fort Worth Real Estate

Bonnie:  There is actually very little for me to object to in your comments. 

But... by the way... I love the quote in your comment # 55.  One hope for my own daughter is that she grows up to help do away with the white racist, homophobic, patriarchial bullshit paradigm.  I believe all of that does exist... and I would love to change that paradigm.

Sep 09, 2009 12:38 PM
Susan Mangigian
RE/MAX Preferred - West Chester, PA
Chester & Delaware County Homes, Delaware and Ches

Karen Anne, sigh.  Take a deep breath and just ignore.  Although I have to thank Alice for this poster.  I like it!

I want

 

Sep 09, 2009 12:41 PM
Alice Linahan
Voices Empower - Argyle, TX

Karen Anne,

I agree with Bonnie, Delete what you want.

I stand by my comments and my back up to support my position. I did not attack you or anyone I just presented how I came to my position.

Here is my request. Please do not use my name or misrepresent my posts on your blog.

 It is not appreciated.

Sep 09, 2009 03:31 PM
Tchaka Owen
Galleria International Realty - Hollywood, FL

Don't worry, Karen Anne.......that will be very difficult for you to do!!!

Sep 09, 2009 07:24 PM
Karen Anne Stone
New Home Hunters of Fort Worth and Tarrant County - Fort Worth, TX
Fort Worth Real Estate

Susan:  Thanks for the suggestion.  I think that is just what i will do.  Ingore the theatrics, and just respond to the comments.  I had had a long day yesterday, and was just not in the mood to put up with all that "stuff."

Sep 09, 2009 10:52 PM
Karen Anne Stone
New Home Hunters of Fort Worth and Tarrant County - Fort Worth, TX
Fort Worth Real Estate

Tchaka:  I know it will take forever, but the racist, homopobic, christian-Taliban attitudes, along with living in such a patriarchail society... all this is just not acceptable in a country that is supposed to be "the land of the free."

Sep 09, 2009 10:55 PM
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