Why are politics such a volatile subject?  I watched the president's speech last night.  I do not want to debate Health-care Reform here.  I do not want the far right and the far left going to war on my Thankful Thursday post.  I listened to President Obama.  What a speaker!  I really could listen to him speak for hours.  Clearly something must be done, but I'm not smart enough, or I should say educated enough on the topic, to decide what that something should be.  Someone made a comment on Facebook last night, someone who doesn't agree with our President (and careful.... I'm not going to argue with anyone.... I am not saying I agree with him...).  He said that he guesses that if you don't agree with the president you are being immoral.  I commented that back during our former President's administration, if you didn't agree on the war, you were being unpatriotic, so, fair is fair.  I was being lighthearted about it.  It's the way I see it, but I wasn't being confrontational, I started my comment with a "now, now".  Politics makes people so angry and confrontational.  I think it's kind of sad that this is the only thing he took away from that awesome speech, but, I'm not surprised.  Well, this morning, I was in a pretty good mood.  I signed onto my email and there it was.  Someone I do not know, responding directly to me.  I'll cut and paste: 

 

So let me get this straight, Susan? Rather than do what is best for the country we are supposed to play "got ya" and "well he started it". You are not un patriotic if you are against the war, just if you undermine the troops in the field... The left loves a good protest EVERYTIME some group of nut jobs protest at a fallen soldiers funeral... But God forbid you stand up at a town hall??? Just sayin...

 

Now I do not know this person.  He does not know me.  What makes him think that with this short comment "now, now. If you didn't support the war you were unpatriotic, so fair is fair." that I was trying to play tit for tat?  That I was suggesting we NOT do what is best for this country?  I thought I was being lighthearted.  This person, again, I don't know him, came out slugging.  He says the left loves a good protest, but I suggest this guy just loves a dirty fight. 

So, and I hate to admit this, I lost my temper.  I replied to someone I don't know and don't want to know.

Mark, no reason to bully. I didn't realize this discussion was only for people who agree with you. In fact, I don't even know you, and I could care less what you think about the issue. I have no desire to debate someone who comes out fighting without really knowing where I am coming from. To quote you... "just saying".

and to the person who originally made the comment:

I apologize. I didn't realize "the left nut jobs" as Mark put it, weren't included in the discussion.

You might ask what the heck all of this has to do with being Thankful.  Well, I'm working on it.  It appears that we live in a free country.  We have to right to disagree with our leaders.  Not just a right, but an obligation if we feel they are leading us in the wrong direction.  Well, I am thankful for that.  I am thankful that I got to hear an eloquent and dignified man give a wonderful speech last night.  I really don't know yet where I stand on his health-care reform.  I know that I pay a lot of money for health-care for my family.  Personally, while I would like it to be more affordable, I'm not in a hurry for the government to run it.  I'm quite happy with my plan.  But I am thankful I live in this country, at this time, where I can learn more, be more, do more, than women who live in other places. 

I just wish that if people didn't agree, they wouldn't be so damn disagreeable.  And I wasn't so thin skinned (I admit it). If you don't agree with me, please agree to disagree, because this post isn't about arguing your point.

Just saying.

Carpe Diem!

 

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People are just too passionate about their feelings on the subject of politics. They can't discuss the topic, because in their mind they know they are right and the other side is wrong. It's the mentality that causes the argument.

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Pat, I love the way you describe you and your husband.  My husband and I are definitely a house divided when it comes to politics as well, but we do not manage to do it with as much grace as you do.  Frankly, I prefer not to speak to my husband about it, because he falls into the "bullying and shouting louder than you" category of debater when it comes to this subject. 

Hi Robby, I definitely have thin skin and that guy really got me.  My fault, I should have turned the other cheek and let him kiss my Italian butt. :-0   Oh well.  And you are right.  The weather is unseasonably cool!  xxoo

 

8:54am • #8
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Hi JL!  You are right, of course.  And I am guilty of thinking I am right about a lot of things.  But I try not to berate and belittle people who do not agree with me.  Loved your top 10 list.  Very funny.

8:59am • #9
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Susan - I agree with you, the president is an excellent speaker. But thanks for being thankful for the ability to express dissent. It is an important part of our heritage and is disappearing in so many places, including democratic countries.

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Susan, One thing is certain...it is hard to have a disagreemnt with anyone regarding much of anything with out people becoming immediately antagonistic. I try to stop my self when I disagree and just listen for awhile. It can be quite enlightening. Good post!

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Prefect!
Richard bolen
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Mike, you are right.  It is an important part of our heritage.  I just wish that when we expressed our dissent, the other side didn't go on the attack.

Barb, you are right.  I guess that's why they say we have two ears and one mouth!!  Thanks!

10:17am • #13
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Susan, I have a book suggestion you might like. Deepak Chopra's The Seven Spiritual Laws of Success."

10:37am • #14
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Hi Susan

I'm thankful for living in America and having the right to speak my mind. Health care why the rush to approve a bill that not written that won.t go into effect until 2013 and after the Presidential election.

Good luck and success.

Lou Ludwig 

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Susan, with the disagreeable dissenters poking at you, you are not encouraging me to jump on Facebook anytime soon. But it is a free country with lots of opinions. I too wish people could voice their opinion without being hostile. I am thankful though also for freedom of speech. When people DON'T know you they seem to get even more disagreeable cause they can jump to conclusions and hide behind that keyboard far, far away.

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Janice, I'll look that book up.

Lou, why the rush?  I have no idea.  But thankfully, you have the right to ask. Thanks, as always, for visiting.

Gary, when people are that hostile, it's a sure fire way never to get to know me.  I have no tolerance for bullies.  Did you see the latest comment on my Gary Woltal post?

1:05pm • #17
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Susan, Some people feel the need to attack....it makes them feel more powerful.  I know it would bother me as well and then I'd just let it go so it doesn't ruin my day. 

4:10pm • #18
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Carole, it did bother me and it took me a while, but I kept reminding myself that this person is nothing to me.  I think I would have understood it better if it was someone that I knew.

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ManGiggly...

Before shutting down for the day I want to share this song with you. Sometimes, we just do what has to be done for the betterment of others. The last six months have been like that for me :)

TLW...ROAR!

6:54pm • #20
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Billie, I understand totally.  Thanks for sharing it, my friend. I am over the moon happy for you to have your best friend and son moving so close by.  Blessed.  That is what you are.  xxoo 

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Susan - Wow - I don't understand people who get so upset.  I think it shows their immaturity, for they only want to see it one way and they are so narrow-minded - they can't see there could be another way.  I am also thankful to be living in America with freedom of speech but to go out of your way to use words to hurt someone is unnecessary.

8:21pm • #22
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Oh Susie, I'm not going there.  But I do agree that we need not be snide or nasty to disagree.  Oddly enough, I instantly adored you *even though I am far far to the right of you, when you posted last fall about both a McCain and Obama sign in your yard.  Since I loved you instantly, *in spite of your politics, I figured God put you in my path for a purpose.  And I'm sure I'm right about that. America is a great place to live.  I'm Thankful I met you.

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Susan, we are blessed to live in a country where we can have our own thoughts and opinions, especially as women! Freedom to speak our minds and not have retributions! Civility is really needed though!

You wrote a very fine post and I applaud you as one woman to another!!

7:37am • #24
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I am just putting off my morning and waiting for a Thankful Thursday post so I came back and read this again. I am still amazed at the people who goo of on others over 1 or 2 issues...maybe I should post my own semi-rant/opinion on this. I like theeven handed way you wrote this!

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"I just wish that if people didn't agree, they wouldn't be so damn disagreeable." - I loved this!  You want to know what I find INCREDIBLY ironic?  A few of the comments are by people who HERE attest to "agree to disagree".  Something must have happened between the time you wrote this post and the last few day because they have certainly come out swinging......too funny!  C'est la vie....... 

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