Yesterday, a colleague from Long and Foster called with an interesting little tidbit. 

He'd been at a condo board meeting (he wouldn't say which one) the night before.  And they were having one of those contentious meetings about whether to amend the association's bylaws to allow dogs.  Then, at the peak of the arguments someone stood up and said:

"Well, in Pat Kennedy's blog, she says there should never be dogs in condos!" 

And that was that.  The dogs got voted down!

Now, I can't find the blog where I allegedly wrote this.  I might have been BWL'ing* - or I might not have even written it!

But this is what I think I would have meant to write if I wrote about this at all:

My beloved dog, Willie the Hyperactive Labradoodle, should never, ever live in a condo - at least not one that involved an elevator ride to get to the great outdoors.  He would hump legs.  He would inappropriately pee in the hallways.  He would roll in puddles outside and track in muddy paw prints through the lobby.  And he would bark his little head off any time anyone opened a door and stepped into the hallway. 

While this applies to Willie, and probably to a few other dogs out there, I've known many dogs who behaved perfectly living in condos and coops.  It depends on the dog and it's owner. Some dogs (and their humans) are very well trained and can live in total harmony with their neighbors, whether in a house or an apartment.  Others should live on a farm with lots of sheep they can chase around to burn off energy.

What I have written about a few times are condo associations with overly restrictive pet rules.  Those with no pet policies are much harder to sell than those in more pet friendly buildings.  And the prices tend to be lower in the more restricted buildings, even if their residents don't have to worry about being molested in the elevator by a large, drooling canine. 

So, bottom line, I would never, under any circumstances, ever buy a condo in a no-pet building.  Even if Willie were not an issue, I have a couple of cats who are fine with the great indoors.  Still, I understand how this is a topic that makes people on both sides of the issue crazy if they inhabit the same condo building.

That's one reason I live in a house.

 

*Um, BLW, for those of you unfamiliar with the term, stands for "Blogging While Loopy", something frowned upon in the Active Rain blogging guidelines.

 

 

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FIRST off, love the profile photo.... with pets, dogs or cats, I think the rules just need to be common sense and "reasonable" for all concerned....

2:44pm • #1
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Gary, if we could all agree about what was reasonable, it would be a whole lot easier.

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Hi Pat... I live in a highrise condo that does allow dogs and you are absolutely right.  Some dogs are very well suited to condo living and others simply are not.  If a dog is a frequent barker, then my advice to buyers is do yourself and everyone a favor and buy a detached home.  I adore dogs.  I have been quoted as saying I like most dogs more than I like most people, but even I do not want to listen to someone else's dog bark incessantly while trying to watch TV , read a book or sleep... and condos may require an owner to get rid of a dog that is deemed a nuisance.

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Hi Pat!
You did a great job explaining the pros and cons of dogs and condos.  I am of the same mind as you.  The problem is, some people really think that cute yippy little dog is loved by one and all! As you said, some dogs are great in condos...we just hope that their owners know which ones are appropriate and which ones aren't!

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Pat ~ I for one did not know what BWL meant, so now I know. Well, even though they maybe got the blog post wrong arn't you flattered that someone read and mentioned you by name. You are now the expert on Condos and dogs! LOL

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Sometimes how one thing written could be swayed so drastically! It's hard to explain exactly what we mean in writing.

BTW, I like your new profile pic!

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Hi Pat, Bet you did not realize how powerful you and your blog have become.

 So anyone wanting  condo rules changed, just notify Pat to write a blog about the subject in dispute...and it is decided.

Right now all my condos and coops are pet restricted. Plenty of calls looking for pet friendly properties.

 

Agree with Gary, love the photo

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Pat

Very informative post thanks for sharing your insight.

Good luck and success.

Lou Ludwig

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Patricia,

We deal with both pet friendly, and no pet condos. I find nothing wrong with that. Some people would not by in No Pets condo, some don't mind even though they do not have pets, and there are also those who do not want pets in the condo.

That is OK. What is not OK, however, is changing rules on the go. First there are two dogs with no weight mentioned. Then they come with 50 lb limit per dog, them 50 lb between the two dogs. This is unfair, and the problem is that the association can do that.

The other problem is why they count cats? Cats do not need to go out, do not bark, bite, and pee in elevators. So how on the scales of the Associatons they are the same as dogs?

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I love it...

"Well, in Pat Kennedy's blog, she says there should never be dogs in condos!" h

Truly a testament to how powerful the RAIN is !

I agree, my Tiki would not fair well in a condo either!

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I agree dogs should be allowed in condos but the owners need to understand the rules and take care of the dog.

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Has anyone reported you to the ASPCA yet?  I love the fact that you were quoted - and they obeyed!  Poor dogs.  Ummm, much the same couold be said about small children.  Now that could be a good post too.

 

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Patricia- I had a vacation condo with a sign prominently displayed at the entrance which read "No Dogs" however in the fine print of the by-laws owners were exempt. This applied to renters on vacation, and was enforced to reduce the liability risks. (dog bites)

However, when I bought this lakeside unit-I got a lot of grief from the HOA members who summered there.  My dog was a service dog. 

It was not until they saw me point to the bush at the bottom of my porch step where he could urinate on command that really impressed them. He never once soiled the property.  He waited until we were off property to do that in a designated area.  Over time, they realized his rather special skill set made him extremely unique.  Much to our surprise-they threw him a surprise birthday party and gave him an Omoha Steak for his birthday- he promptly responded by saying "I LOVE YOU" audibly and clearly (on a sign language cue he had mastered.)  He was an amazing dog who changed their hearts and minds.

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Steve, I dream of living in a high rise condo with a fabulous view.  Not gonna happen.  This dog will probably way outlive me!

Paula, the only time I've ever been bitten was by a tiny little thing who lived in a listing I had.  There's not much correllation between size and behavior.

Janice, now how can I turn this expertise into income?

Leolinda, that's assuming I even wrote it.  Which I might have.  Hmmm.

Margaret, I can just feel the muscles bulging through my little computer's keyboard!

Lou, thank you!

Jon, regulating pets in a condo can be a horrible hassle, and I think a lot of buildings here just feel no pets will cause fewer issues among neighbors. 

Sheila, we need a play group for Tiki and Willie!

And Terry & Bonnie, I think the problems with pets and condos are not with the pets, but with the owners!

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I was on our condo board when I was out voted about restricting the size of dogs in the building (I voted NO). At the time we had two problem dogs.  A large puppy that the dog walker didn't pick up after in the back stairwell and a little dog that let loose in the lobby.  So what did they do?  Outlawed the big dogs. Now we have a building full of this tiny yappy dogs who bark when the wind blows.   Terrific :-) 

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Your comments on Willie made me LOL.  And I now know what BWL means.  Too funny.  The only downside on pets in condos or apartments are the irresponsible pet owners.  The ones that don't pick up after their pets or let them do their business in the stairwells - again with no clean-up.  Thanks for the photo!

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