I was going to make this a rather technical piece of blogging information.  I printed out page upon page of data to support my stance.  I read through each page of data to compare it to what I really wanted to say about the subject of credit.  Then, as typical, I ripped up the pages because they were quite boring... even though, informative.

My goal is to be less boring (I rarely have lofty expectations;) and just as informative.

To this day, I don't get why people wear shades.  Okay, if the Sun hurts their eyes, I get that.  But I'm convinced that many wear shades because they are under some grand illusion that they actually look cool.  In reality, most just look like tourists.  I bring this up because of the Title of this post.  When you owe folks money, the easiest way to make it seemingly disappear is to hide.  Hide from phone calls, certified letters, emails, and from your neighbor who just got information on your behalf.

Let's be Frank.  You can be Susie.  If you make enough money and handle it correctly... this stuff isn't an issue.  However, if your credit score looks like Ted William's batting average from 1941, there is some serious 'issues' going on.  While you can ignore creditors all you want, it will end up costing more than the comfort your so-called pride could ever allow.

Much has been written about this issue, even by yours truly.  Instead of bombarding you, the reader, with facts, figures, and a brand new way to make money if you spend $19.95 on my 'Secret System', I will give you three Philosophical Facts (oxymoron, I know) about Credit.  By the way, if you are interested in my 'Secret System' and are willing to spend almost twenty dollars for the privilege of implementing such, I'm also thinking about starting a cult in Waco.

Commercial Moment:)

When I read the word 'Dunning', I wondered what it meant.  I'm no language genius and rarely study, as my college GPA can prove.  Dunning is the process of methodically communicating with customers to ensure the collection of accounts receivable.  Interesting.  This would happen to be addressed by the first of three philosophies I have on credit.  Be pro-active!  Call them before they even think of calling you.  Nobody knows your financial situation better than you.  Calling the specific creditor and opening the lines of communication can go a long way in keeping things copacetic.  If you are pro-active enough, it will ensure that you are more methodical than the counterpart you owe, which can help buy time to earn the time to appease your financial crime.

But what happens if I get someone on the line and can't pay them a dime?  Here comes Philosophy Numero two.  I'll use credit cards as an example.  This one is a personal story.  I had a credit card with an available balance of a mere $500.00.   Because of finance charges and an overly high balance, I had incurred their over the balance fee just one month prior.  The first time in seven years.  I called to discuss and get rid of the issue.  That wasn't much of a problem.  Yet, the next month I ran into the same dilemma and their finance charges put me over my balance and I was once again confronted with a pretty staunch fee.   I got on the horn and spoke to a young lady whose English wasn't akin to Shakespeare.  She was passionate in her script in saying that the particular fee I was charged was only able to be waived once ever twelve months.  After about twenty minutes, I asked her four times to let me talk to someone higher-up, a manager per se.  According to her, they would say the same thing.  On the fifth time, she put me on hold.  Magically, she was actually able to waive the fee all by herself.  Before your panties get wet as a reader, I had been a customer with them for quite sometime and had never been late on even one payment.  But Philosophy Numero Two says that you be persistent in all dealings with those you owe money too.  If you can't pay them a dime, they'll often accept a penny or two in the meantime.

Read up on this stuff.  Information is extremely available, and as long as it's the accurate material, you should be quite fine.  When I got my first collection call, I had more anxiety than O.J. after the whole Bronco Chase.  Okay, bad analogy.  But, I got through it.  I learned to deal with it and keep my head about me.  The majority of folks you talk to when dealing with any debts you have are hourly employees who probably are in the same boat.  You'd be surprised about the credit profiles of collectors, doctors, lawyers, and what I do for a living.  Never be intimidated, yet always be gracious.  Don't kill them with kindness, confront them with Professionalism.

Pro-active, persistent, & professional.  Tsk, I should have been a Social Worker.  Then again, :)

 

 
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41 Comments on Is your Credit Report so bright that you gotta wear shades?

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As far as the new Waco cult - I'm in!  Do we bring our own Kool-aid?

Everyone in my family calls me in when they have credit issues or odd charges - they start a conversation, then say, here, talk to my mother/wife/ or whatever I am to them.  I implement the same strategies you seem to have used successfully, too. 

The only one I could not resolve was Homes.com - I finally had to be a real hardass and disputed all of their charges with my bank and got my money back.

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And when all else fails, send a letter with documentation to your Congressional rep.  Credit card companies HATE to get letters from them.

 

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I currently have a client that years ago had a $1000 DMV lien, unpaid. Do you know what the payoff is that he has to cover to close on his new home? $5400. Yup. Ignorance, hiding, and pretending never pay. Another current client paid his rent on time for 10 years. 10 YEARS!!! He has a $3400 lien because he didn't communicate correctly when he left his rental. Pro-active as you mention, AND HUMBLE to pay things even when you think (maybe even know) they are wrong.

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Virginia - Are you kidding me?  Kool-Aid is provided, if not totally recommended;)

Lenn - It's quirky.  When wanting less Government, we go to them to provide us with more support.  Credit Card Companies HATE to deal with a smart enough guy to acknowledge either you accept my terms (as I've accepted yours) or don't collect a bloody cent.  As far as Pennsylvania's Congressional Rep, they'll learn when we finally teach them that it is a Civic Duty and NOT an Occupation.  I still owe the money, though. 

Sis - Me too:)

5:56pm • #5
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Hi Jason,
Most people prefer to "ostrich approach" (bury the head in the sand).  It doesn't work--ignoring a debt certainly won't make it go away and it will eventually catch up.

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Hi Jason -- Interesting post and the importance of good communication cannot be overstated.  I learned about dunning thanks to you!

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Jason,

"Philosophical Facts"??????????????

There was nothing philosophical about credit until recently! It use to be you ether owed the money or you didn't. Now if you owe the money people get philosophical and claim their entitled to forget it.

Bill

PS: Waco is better known for ending cults than starting them.

6:29pm • #8

I like the part when you say "confront them with professionalism". I am defintly going to use that one. It is very discouraging when you have never been late and they lower your credit making it very easy one to go over the limit.

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I think the five times being persistent is the trick Jason. Credit card companies makes so much money on all those fees.

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I ordered my son a new phone, he is away at college. I had to spend an extra 19,95 to send it to him because his address at school is not mine.

Ok...

Yesterday the new phone ( not the right one ) arrived here in MI.

WRONG PHONE, WRONG PLACE FOR IT TO ARRIVE.

I  called to tell them THEIR mistake. Of course they were very apologitic and then told me I had to send it back first, then I could get a new one sent to Jamie.

I don't think so.

I told them, I am going to send it back, but I am also getting in my car and going to the mall, buy a phone and overnight it to him.

MAGICALLY...the second level came on, sent him a new phone, waived the 19.95 to send to him.

Gee....

7:49pm • #11
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Confront them with professionalism - I like this idea.  Also, I expect many people don't have the brightest of credit reports in this day and age.

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Cynthia - Chinese Proverb says, " Long Neck Reaches Common Ground." 

Chris - We both learned something today.

Bill - I won't even cite the "Philosophical .... screw that, I will!  "three Philosophical Facts (oxymoron, I know).  There was context in between, which you failed to bring to light.  I respect you and I love ya, but until you stop with some of this right wing crap (it could be left wing, they're as despicable)you are going to have a hard time dealing with a guy like me.  I don't bull, and that's not just cause I  can't afford it.  It's cause I don't deal with Shit.

KVT - Like Nike, Just DO IT:)

Gary - Greed isn't good.  You seem to be a pious man with time on your hands, Three times tends not to be the charm.

 

 

 

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My opinion is that if you have gotten yourself into a financial predicament then it will take years to improve your scores.

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Jason,

You brought your context to light! I simply chose not to high light it. You made your point.

You don't need to go any where to start a cult, you like our friend Billy have your own cult right here.

Bill

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I think that you make three valid points. Thanks,

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They say over 70% or more have credit reports have mistakes on them. Personally, I recruited a credit restoration company that specializes in this area for my buyers. Get the job done right the first time.

12:52am • #17

Easier said than done! My friend has cancer and no insurance! He has gave me power of attorney and they act sypathetic, then go on to say, well can you make payment arrangements or we can settle this today for x amount. I took over his house and car payments to help him avoid foreclosure and consider myself a tenant for now.

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You wrote:  When wanting less Government, we go to them to provide us with more support.

Don't confuse Congressional constituant services with "going to the government".  This is the essence of an elected representative's constituant service. 

When I go to an elected representative, I have the facts and the documentation to demonstrate illegal or regulatory excess on the part of a business in credit matters.  That is not "going to them to provide us with more support".  That is revealing to our elected representative an illegal or regulatory excess of an entity.  There is no quid pro quo.  Constituant representation is their job and I have found that my representatives have been appreciative of the opportunity to DO THEIR JOB.

In fact, not alerting your elected representative to the illegal or regulatory excess of companies ingaged in providing credit is ignoring the problem. 

Don't just complain, do something.  On our own, we have little individual clout.  OTOH, through an elected representative, we have collective clout. 

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Just another temporary band aid...eventually the band aid needs to be changed or it will just fall off.

My credit report was not accurate but it took becoming a fraud victim myself to have it changed...and even after some accounts I had listed were not correctly closed...it took time and they still didn't close them correctly.

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Hey Sardi -- good to see you back here writing in the Rain!

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Jason - You should write a book or direct some cool movie !  You really are a great writer : ) !  Love your analogies.

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Credit is going to be a big issue for many people in the coming years. Next onslaught coming up. Always great to see/read you Jason.

8:47am • #23

Interesting again...thanks.  I had never thought of the representative call.  It really is part of their job to make sure these companies are not stretching the rules.  These companies get a lot of benefits from congress...and I think it should all be cut off.  Let the free market rule. 

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I have hit these times of issues with the bank of overdraft fees.  I have not argued it when I deserve it, but there have been some real shenanigans were I have not.  The time I spend is not worth what is saves, yet I will do it anyway.  I have walked into a branch set down and refused to leave until they get to the bottom of it.

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some of these credit card companies really do take advantage of a situation or a client for all they can even even when is trying to do their best on the debt they owe

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Great suggestions - I like the three P's, I agree you need to be pro-active and address any minor issues before they become major problems.

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It is all about being persistant in order to get things done the way they should be in regards to almost anything.

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Lenn:

What a great suggestion.  I wouldn't have thought of that.

2:17pm • #29

Hi Jason, Yes I think the 3 p's say it all!  I think you must be persistant and do this in a professional manor.  nice blog..thanks for sharing

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I like the guy above who pointed out your writing skills.  Better start on a book!

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Jason, my father taught me to "go to the top" when I had a problem. I start low but don't waste time if the supervisor above the person on the phone can't won't help. Great points and I love Lenn's suggestion to let our elected officials know.

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Many people put on a face mask. If people continue to believe they are NOT what they are, it might become real.

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Man...it's tough out there and as long as you are mentioning Austin, Texas bands, well, Timbuk 3 would agree that  Life is hard...

Dang, I just got here in time to see that "angelia" spammed your post!

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Interesting post Jason. A family member of mine did this and had his debt settled for 50 cents on the dollar. I prefer to do the honorable thing and pay all debts, however, I know that some people are in a real dilemma right now

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Well now, I am very happy to see this featured and frankly I think all of your posts should be!

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JS - great post as usual.  You had me LMAO  Good stuff my friend!

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Missy - Good for you!  That little story explains a lot. 

Christine -  You may be right.  These days, credit reports may look a bit harsh but I think that can be changed with this little thing we have inside our souls.  I think they call it resilience:)

Russ - A lot of the time, you are probably spot on with that thought.  Time is sometimes the only healer, though I think pro-active measures can be taken and implemented to streamline the process.

Bill - And I hope you are a part of it:) 

James - Me too.

Harry - They are hard to find, yet legitamate entities are out there that do the job right. 

 

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Chris - It was nice speaking with you.  I sincerely hope things work out for your friend.  Let me know.

Lenn -  Great point and I stand corrected.  Thank you.

Neal - It doesn't have to be a mere band aid.  Pro-active can be preventive, which can save a whole lot of tertiary crap down the road.

Erica - What is "This Rain" you speak of? ;)

Chris - Why thank you.  But I don't think Oliver Stone is passing that torch just yet;)

Susie - I agree.  I hope Credit Education remains in the scope of the public eye forever more.

Monica - Lenn made a relevant and I feel, good point.

Gene - Great addition to the conversation and worthy of a post in of itself.

GMS - I just feel we are a bit behind the curve in appropriately dealing with them, that's all.  But I won't disagree with you.  Sometimes I just want to wave a wand and make money something that isn't a worry to any of us.  Then again, my guess is we'll find something else to be greedy about.

Kevin & Monica - The choir hears you:)

Jirius - Philosophically and practically, my guess is that you are right.

Carol - That it was and is.  I've learned a lot from that wise soul.

Ginger - Thank you.

Barbara - Maybe someday:)

Frank & Sharon - The man (your Father) sounds like a very wise soul. 

Loreena - I believe you speak of the term "persona".  Unless it involves Pro-Wrestling or a Film, I was never a big fan.

Russell - Seems like the perpetrator disappeared.  Somebody caught "her" before I did.  I would have given her a verbal scorning along with a lifetime subscription to your blog;)

Mark - I would hope that most would prefer and actually do the honorable thing.  With that, we agree.

Russell - Even the Member's Only Stuff?

Nevin -  We'll talk again.  And your pic still looks like you just saw the entire crew of Baywatch (including Hassleoff) naked.  I won't back down from that one;)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Great post Jason, congrats on the feature in the newsletter. 

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Jason, your persistence paid results!  Lenn and Missy also offered excellent examples.

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