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An Electrifying Discovery - Sneaking in The Back Door

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Home Inspector with JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC HOI 394

Electricity is a mysterious energy source. You can't see it but you most certainly can feel if you come in contact with an energized wire. After which you may just have a new hair do.

I was inspecting a home the other day that had clearly been recently updated. Nice looking place which an obviously single couple was occupying.

Remodeled always gets my radar going at ultra high frequency. Often there is work done by someone other than a professional. As I went through this home it was clear the remodeler was the homeowner.

As they say the devil is in the details and that is where it was apparent our homeowner was the handy man. Not to take any thing away from the guy because all in all it was not bad workmanship.

But as I said electricity is a mysterious energy source and takes a level of knowledge above the homeowner handyman to comprehend.

In the electric panel I found a newer 220 volt wire. It didn't look right from the start. The wire appeared to be for the newer dryer.

I noticed that the ground wire was not connected to the panel. This was odd because there was a ground terminal in this panel. I put my voltage detector on the wire and;

Houston we have a problem!

Hot!There should not be any current coming through the ground wire unless there is a ground fault or other problem.

My guess is Harry Homeowner crossed some wires. When he discovered that the wire was hot, he then probably decided to leave it as you see it. After all the dryer works.

This problem is often referred to as back feeding but usually occurs on the neutral wire. That wire is in very close proximity to the panel and if it makes contact would energize the panel. Then all someone has to do is touch and the panel and zzzzzzt, new hair do or worse.

Bottom line here is it's a danger and needs to be repaired by a licensed electrician. This illustrates once again why professionals should be doing the work and not the homeowner or his Uncle or Cousin, etc.

 

James Quarello
NRSB #8SS0022
JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC

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James Quarello
Connecticut Home Inspector
Former SNEC-ASHI President
JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC

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Robert Rauf
CMG Home Loans - Toms River, NJ

OK, that is just a weeeee bit scary!  never mess with an electric panel if you dont know what you are doing!

Sep 21, 2009 04:22 AM
Kate Kate
San Diego, CA

That hair-do is pretty electrifying but not so humorous if courtesy of the electrical panel.

Sep 21, 2009 04:30 AM
Dan Callahan
Callahan's Home Inspections - Casper, WY

Around my area I am seeing home sellers "updating" their homes by switching out the old two prong outlets by going to Home Depot and buying the 3 prong outlets. Of course, and I know you see it coming James. They are not grounding the outlets. I have received a multitude of calls asking me how to fix an open ground. I always point them to getting a qualified electrician.

Sep 21, 2009 06:30 AM
Nick T Pappas
Assoc. Broker ABR, CRS, SFR, e-Pro, @Homes Realty Group, Broker/Providence Property Mgmnt, LLC Huntsville AL - Huntsville, AL
Madison & Huntsville Alabama Real Estate Resource

I've done most of my on electrical work in homes that I've owned...but I always have my father in-law (an electrician for over 35 years) check everything.  I too have found many scary things in homes I've owned. 

Sep 21, 2009 09:29 AM
Andrea Swiedler
Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices New England Properties - New Milford, CT
Realtor, Southern Litchfield County CT

Jim, I have TOLD you how I feel about electricity type stuff. Now I will have nightmares. I was afraid to touch my keyboard after looking at this, went and put on rubber boots and very gingerly touched the keys. Safe again.

Fools, really.

Sep 21, 2009 10:21 AM
James Quarello
JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC - Wallingford, CT
Connecticut Home Inspector

Robert, That is wise advice.

Kate, I wonder how Nutsy would look with a do like that.

Dan, so very common to find. best thing to do is point them to an electrician.

Nick, How lucky for you to have an electrician in the family.

Andrea, You seem drawn to my posts on electrical issues like a moth to a flame. I wrote a very tame blog about my new resident woodchuck Chuckie didn't see you there. Nope you like the scary stuff :D

Sep 21, 2009 10:48 AM
Kate Kate
San Diego, CA

James, maybe Charles would offer a visual aid.

Sep 21, 2009 11:02 AM
Barbara S. Duncan
RE/MAX Advantage - Searcy, AR
GRI, e-PRO, Executive Broker, Searcy AR

I guess my husband is pretty smart.  He refused to touch anything electrical because he says electricity is just too dangerous.

Sep 21, 2009 01:39 PM
TeamCHI - Complete Home Inspections, Inc.
Complete Home Inspections, Inc. - Brentwood, TN
Home Inspectons - Nashville, TN area - 615.661.029

James, I hate to see Unhandy Andy make pitiful attempts at being an electrician. Maybe he should stick to plumbing - much safer... 

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Sep 21, 2009 09:19 PM
James Quarello
JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC - Wallingford, CT
Connecticut Home Inspector

Kate, That I would like to see.

Barbara, Your husband is a wise man.

Michael, I would agree 100%. Getting wet is much safer.

Sep 21, 2009 10:51 PM
Steven L. Smith
King of the House Home Inspection, Inc. - Bellingham, WA
Bellingham WA Home Inspector

Mr Quintillo,

That was very informative in my mind.

Nutsy

Sep 22, 2009 02:36 PM
James Quarello
JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC - Wallingford, CT
Connecticut Home Inspector

Nutsy, When are you going to change your profile pictue. My favorite is this one;

Sep 22, 2009 11:39 PM
Steven L. Smith
King of the House Home Inspection, Inc. - Bellingham, WA
Bellingham WA Home Inspector

Mr Charles,

That offends me and the boss too. You are just too easily manipulated by Mr Charles

Sep 23, 2009 02:48 PM
James Quarello
JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC - Wallingford, CT
Connecticut Home Inspector

Nutsy, You have mistaken me for someone else.

Sep 23, 2009 11:43 PM
Kate Kate
San Diego, CA

James, he has walked one too many electrical wires. We knew it would fry his brain eventually.

Sep 24, 2009 03:18 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Is that a picture of your buyer when she heard the news?

Sep 30, 2009 11:16 PM
James Quarello
JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC - Wallingford, CT
Connecticut Home Inspector

Jay, No it was the real estate agent:)

Oct 01, 2009 02:42 AM