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I'm A Real Estate Expert - What's Wrong With This Statement?

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Real Estate Agent with Kimberly Howell Properties (210) 646-HOME

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Being an expert.

I read a comment on someone's blog today (and won't link to it as the comment doesn't really apply to what I'm writing, it just sent me down this path) that made me think about the word expert and how we use it consistently in real estate.  Everyone wants to hire someone with expertise in their field, no matter what industry you're coming from.  We like to know we're getting the best of the best.  We don't want to hire someone who has no experience in their field.

Merriam-Webster defines expert:

2 : having, involving, or displaying special skill or knowledge derived from training or experience

I certainly don't want someone without training or experience helping me buy and sell my house.  I might as well let my cat sell my house then, right?  I want an expert, right?  But what makes a real estate agent an expert?

Sure, when an agent has sold a ton of real estate, there is a certain level of experience that goes with it.  They train, they read, they learn, they practice.  This is an expert by the very definition of the word.

But once; they didn't have that training, that level of experience, they hadn't sold those homes.  They weren't an expert, right?  They were just somebody with a real estate license.

You learn something new everyday.

Every time I speak with an agent who has more real-time experience than I do, I ask them about how they feel about this or that involving the ins and outs of a contract.  I love to learn from other people when it comes to ideas and theories of real estate.  The one common thread I have found in all of these conversations is the phrase, "You learn something new on every contract you do."

Wait, read that again.  Let's use some logic here.  Follow me.  If an experienced agent learns something new on every contract, that means they encounter something they don't know, don't have experience in, or have not seen before.  It's new to them.  So while doing that contract, that real estate agent isn't an expert (in regards to that specific contract), right?

Now, I know I'm stretching definitions a bit here, but I'm attempting to get you to think a little bit differently.  An expert isn't someone who has training and experience.  You heard me.

So what is an expert then?

When I was young, I had a hard time in school.  I found myself bored and rarely challenged.  Because of that, I often slacked off and just sort of made my way through school.  I felt I was an expert, that's for sure (I may have had a little bit of an ego when I was younger).  One day, while having a conversation with my parents, I told them I was bored and not learning anything in school.  My step-mom explained to me the reason we go to school from her point of view:

You're not going to school to learn facts and figures, you're going to learn how to learn.

That message has stuck with me all my life.  You don't have to know everything, you just have to know how to find the answers to everything.  This, in my book, is what defines an expert.  Everyone in real estate started at the beginning, when they did their first transaction were they so clueless that they shouldn't have been near a real estate contract?  (Possibly.)  But most of us made it through our early transactions - not by being an expert, but knowing how to learn from others' expertise.  We asked questions, read blogs, called agents in our office - whatever it took.  We learned what we needed to in order to complete our first transactions.

When I see someone using the title of expert (especially when it applies to particular disciplines such as short sales or foreclosures), I often wonder how they got there.  Did they sell a few blindly to start?  Did they tell their clients not to worry, they were an expert?  Did they use the experience to learn?

Real estate is a hands on experience.  I was well trained at my first office (and my first broker is known for his training) and excelled at school as well.  I did so many "practice" contracts, I probably killed several forests just trying to figure out how many days it took to get a survey or how much a residential service contract (home warranty) costs.  Despite all of the that training, my first sale was a piece of a land.  A completely different form, a completely different contract.  On top of that, it contained a unique twist of having a mobile home on it that was owned by a third party who wanted to leave it behind when they moved, but wanted to lease it back from the buyer for a few months.  Talk about not being prepared!  Instead of folding; I asked a million questions, got the help I needed, and completed a successful transaction with my buyers walking away very happy.

I was an expert.

David Dee
RMX REALTY - Alhambra, CA
Real Estate - San Gabriel Valley (L.A.) & N. Orang

From the desk of David Dee,

Matt,

Such a well crafted and nicely layout post. It is so true in reference to your definition of being an 'expert'. As in any discipline, it is only through practice and learning which will lead us to become experts. It is a losely used terminology in a sense in that expert is not indicative of being omniscient but of constantly learning the ropes of the trade.

Sep 22, 2009 06:56 PM
Satar Naghshineh
Satar - Amiri Property and Financial Services Corp. - Irvine, CA

I consider myself an expert in short sales. I think you hit it on your blog. An expert takes the time to continue to learn and stay on top of the trends of the subject. They also create trends. They openly debate strategies and information. They strive to excel. They learn the rules so they can bend them to thier advantage. They also create new rules. That's what makes me an expert because I follow those guidelines in my field.

Sep 22, 2009 07:32 PM
Fernando Herboso - Associate Broker MD, & VA
Maxus Realty Group of Samson Properties - Clarksburg, MD
301-246-0001 Serving Maryland, DC and Northern VA

Your knowledge, experience and confidence level makes you an expert. . . .

You must have have all 3 of them. .

If anyone DOES NOT consider themselves an expert. . .is because they lack one of those 3 traits.

Sep 22, 2009 09:34 PM
Jeani Codrey
RE/MAX Corridor - New Braunfels, TX
Director of Opportunity & Agent Development

I prefer to think of myself as experienced.  I have had a lifetime of real estate experiences growing up in the business, but I have also learned that you never stopped learning in this business.  Agents who do not continually strive to arm themselves and their clients with the latest knowledge and about the constant change that takes place in our industry are only cheating themselves and the people they serve.  Good points, good post and congrats on the feature!

Sep 22, 2009 11:21 PM
Clint Miller
Real Estate Pipeline, Inc. - Missoula, MT

I know what Im doing. I know my market space. I know my customer base. And, I know how to get those customers to buy my product. But, am I am expert? Im damn darn good at what I do...but, I am no where qualified enough to be an expert. :-)  And, I can admit that.

Sep 23, 2009 12:47 AM
Terri Poehler
Realtor - Coral Springs, FL
Coral Springs Real Estate Agent

It's great that we learn everyday. I don't want to stop learning. In real estate, alot stays the same, but alot changes. This is a good post. Thanks for that.

Sep 23, 2009 12:47 AM
Matt Stigliano
Kimberly Howell Properties (210) 646-HOME - San Antonio, TX

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Sep 23, 2009 01:08 AM
Joe Pryor
The Virtual Real Estate Team - Oklahoma City, OK
REALTOR® - Oklahoma Investment Properties

I don't put into my marketing the terms expert and professional that much, but I believe that as this industry moves towards recovery and downsizing the number of agents, branding the term expert will be more appropriate. I think that at this time experts with expertise are desired but not expected by the public.

Sep 23, 2009 02:49 AM
Anonymous
Kyle D Jan

I can't agree with you more.  I have always found the term expert to be used by pompus sales people who need to try and convince others that they are knowledgeable.  Why can't they just show it through their actions.  You should never stop learning.  Once you know it all, why continue?

Sep 23, 2009 06:48 AM
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Anonymous
Anonymous

Pompous, sorry for the spelling error.

Sep 23, 2009 06:49 AM
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Matt Stigliano
Kimberly Howell Properties (210) 646-HOME - San Antonio, TX

Candice - Did you just quote Depeche Mode on my blog?  If yes, awesome.  If it was an unintentional thing, then it was still awesome.

Kevin and Monica - And my mom always told me no one likes a know it all.

Jesse - The more I know, the more I want to understand it better.  It never ends.

Shana - The "variables" are what make real estate fun.  They are also what can make it very hard at times.

Terry - Interestingly enough I've read a few court cases with different outcomes for the "expert."  In some the agent was called out for pretending to be an expert.  In others they were admonished for not using their expertise.  In both cases, the judgements could have been flipped with the same reasoning.

Lana - The "expert" tag is valued by many people, yet no one seems to know what it truly means.

Susie - I often wonder how much weight the public places on all these titles, designations, and descriptions.

Chris - That's a big part of it as well.  The diversity of real estate makes it really hard to be an expert in the general field.  Even if you're just a short sale expert, there are many aspects to them and each bank handles the differently.  Is that to say that we should say "I am an expert in San Antonio Bank Of America short sales as long as we're using Sam Smith to process our sale."?  (Name and "Bank Of America" used just for example purposes, I know of no Sam Smith.)  Do we need to be precise with our language or just drop it all together?

Steve - If you don't have a group to do that with, I think you'll eventually get stuck.  Having that kind of conversation with others is one of my favorite things (just look at this blog for the evidence).  By the way, love the new photo.  It threw me off, I almost didn't realize it was you I was reading a comment from.

John N. - Good point.  Once again, actions speak louder than words (or text).

John E. - Taking an online class in anything doesn't make you an expert, that's for sure.  I've seen plenty of people who think it does though.

Sylvie - And wouldn't it be easy to rest on your laurels once you considered yourself an expert?  Always a good reason to never feel that way about yourself!

Russ - Top 1% by what criteria?  Production?  Years of real estate practice?  Credits from schools?  Because I don't think 1% really defines an agent, I don't think I could put much credence to that.  I've seen "top" agents perform crap work.

Yvette and Dennis - Thanks.

Michelangelo - It seems most agree that adding to your experience or knowledge is beneficial.

Debbie - And knowing that you don't know everything (and knowing where to learn it) are the keys if you ask me.

Tim - I'm curious to know how well the courts and E&O Insurers would agree.  Do they sometimes butt heads over the issue of "expert"?  Would be interesting to know.

Charles - I often use "real estate practice" as a definition of my work.  I don't want anyone to think I'm doing everything blind and they're my guinea pig, but in many ways, every contract has some element of a "test case" to it.

Choice Realty - I disagree.  Today's consumer knows more and wants to know more than ever before.  I'm not contesting the fact that there are those that know nothing of what we do, but to say 95%...I just can't back that up (in my mind).

Kathleen - One of my greatest regrets in college (short-lived as it was) was having to drop my philosophy class.  That professor talked circles around my head, but man did I love going to his class.

Rajeev - I like how you put it.  I might have to use that somewhere.

Christine - "Think like a lawyer."  That's it...we just need to think like a real estate agent and then back that up with the knowledge and the ability to find the answers we need.  Love it.

Ajith - There are many people out there that claim to be "real estate rockstars" but not many that can claim to be "former rockstars turned real estate agents."

David - So at what point is someone able to use their "practice and learning" to declare themselves an expert.  That's what I'm getting at here.  It's so subjective.

Amiri - Ok, so you're an expert on short sales.  When did you become one and why?  When you did your first short sale, did you tell people you weren't an expert?  People are only experts when they feel they have something to proclaim.  What is someone when they're still learning and are they honest enough with their clients to tell them "I haven't done this before."?  That's the root of my issue with the claim.

Fernando - According to that logic, I lack in one of those three.  I disagree.

Jeani - I do notice there are a lot of people who have "grown up" in the business.  I didn't, but I find it fascinating.  I had little idea of what I was getting into other than I liked buying and selling my own homes in the past and was curious about the process while doing it.  I thought it might be something that would really catch my attention and keep it.  I was right.

Clint - Your use of the word "admit" is telling to me.  You (in our personal dealings) have never been one to shy away from anything.  You're a very honest, upfront person and it shows.  I'm a big admirer of anyone who can "admit" to anything - good or bad.

Terri - Half the things I learned about in real estate classes have changed since I got my license.  I expect the other half to change next year.

Joe - As the industry downsizes would you consider someone who weathered the tough markets an "expert" even if they didn't make a ton of transactions?

Kyle - Good point.  I think some of these terms are in existence so that we can convince others of who we are.  I wonder how many "experts" don't really think they're experts.  Spelling error accepted (I make them in the comments section all too often - for some reason I hate to spell check my comments).

Sep 23, 2009 10:07 AM
Tarris Rogers
Cascade Sotheby's International Realty - Bend, OR
Bend Oregon Real Estate

Matt you hit the nail on the head.  In looking back at the people I've personally considered Experts, it wasn't because of their knowing everything, but rather their effortless ability to find answers and solutions to the questions and problems that were being presented.  I give you an A+ on summing up what a true 'Expert' is.

Sep 24, 2009 09:44 AM
Matt Stigliano
Kimberly Howell Properties (210) 646-HOME - San Antonio, TX

Tarris - Thanks.  I was pleased to see many of the responses here that felt the same.  We (as aganets) get it drilled into our heads that we need to be the experts, but I'm not sure anyone ever helped define what an expert is to me when I was starting.  I just knew I had to project that image.  Being a new agent is tough enough, but when you're "projecting" images that you're not even sure what they are...?  Not easy.

Sep 24, 2009 11:47 PM
Satar Naghshineh
Satar - Amiri Property and Financial Services Corp. - Irvine, CA

"Amiri - Ok, so you're an expert on short sales. When did you become one and why?"

Around April 2008. It is when I felt comfortable not to only meet every challenge, but how to maximize profits for both myself and my clients.

"When you did your first short sale, did you tell people you weren't an expert?"

The first one I did as a licensed real estate was in July 2006. I told him I know how to do a short sale. At that time, hardly anyone knew what a short sale was in my market area as we just were now going on the decline. Before being licensed, I was doing foreclosure flips. Very rarely did you run into a short sale flip unless the owner was either physically ill or they got involved with an investor who squeezed all the equity out of the property. The best was the people who would buy 7-10 houses at a time using 100% financing, rent them out as they go into foreclosure, then short sale them to a retail buyer. The investor was making cash on real estate kickbacks on the purchase, broker kickbacks on the loan purchase, rental income and the selling of the short sale kickback.

"People are only experts when they feel they have something to proclaim."

Not me. It only comes up with clients and other agents who complain about short sales.

"What is someone when they're still learning and are they honest enough with their clients to tell them "I haven't done this before."? That's the root of my issue with the claim."

Agreed. That's why I have an issue with agents who take a short sale course and consider themselves an Expert without having the experience or results behind them.

Sep 25, 2009 11:22 AM
Candice A. Donofrio
Next Wave RE Investments LLC Bullhead City AZ Commercial RE Broker - Fort Mohave, AZ
928-201-4BHC (4242) call/text

Yes it was intentional (wink) D'Mode :)

Sep 25, 2009 02:06 PM
Matt Stigliano
Kimberly Howell Properties (210) 646-HOME - San Antonio, TX

Amiri - Ok, I see where you're coming from.  Now here's my follow up - what would you tell someone to do in order to get involved in short sales and compete against a guy like you for the same business?  Obviously, you have some experience, but what can the "new guy" do that can get him up to speed?

Candice - Consider yourself subscribed to.

Sep 25, 2009 05:59 PM
Satar Naghshineh
Satar - Amiri Property and Financial Services Corp. - Irvine, CA

I would tell that person to visit their local bookstore and read every book they can find on short sales. Then work with a short sale agent in their area. Maybe split the commission in order to learn along side them. Get involved with everything to do with short sales. Attend free seminars and gatherings. Most importantly, get involved with Activerain. The talent here (in the dark corners) is great.

 

Sep 26, 2009 04:16 PM
1~Judi Barrett
Integrity Real Estate Services 116 SE AVE N, Idabel, OK 74745 - Idabel, OK
BS Ed, Integrity Real Estate Services -IDABEL OK

I have never been comfortable with anyone that calls HIMSELF/HERSELF an expert.

To start with, it's just a little too much blatantly tooting their own horn even if it could be true.

I am always more aware of what comes up new in a transaction than I am what's old hat....feel like I'm continually learning how to better accomplish something.

 

Dec 25, 2009 09:59 PM
Matt Stigliano
Kimberly Howell Properties (210) 646-HOME - San Antonio, TX

Judi - The tooting of one's own horn has always been a bit of a weird thing to me.  We're taught to do it to get the consumers attention, but I think they finally got tired and just started ignoring it.  I do toot my own horn when I've reached a goal or accomplished something I'm proud of, but I don't use that as my selling point.  I think we all continue to learn (or at least should) as we go through transactions.  There is always a new situation, agent on the other side, consumers on both sides, etc.  Every transaction involves something different.  It might be similar, but it will never be the same.

Dec 28, 2009 12:27 AM
Ryan Servatius
Century 21 Affilaited - South Haven, MI
Waterfront Communities

To combat this stigma when I first entered the RE field, I took every course I could get into.

I took my ABR, GRI's 1,2,3, e-PRO, Institute for Luxury Home Marketing & Resort & Second Home Specialist designtaions.  I then took simpler courses like 1031 Exchange, Ninja Selling and then got my Brokers License.

I did all of this within 3 years to make up for my so called "lack" of experience from all of the old dogs in our area that would use their "time on the job" as their qualification to get a listing.

I am not in the Top 5 every year in our area and continue to gain every year.

I am constantly looking for new ways to stay in the publics face and attention, especially in this time of Advirtising Deficit Disorder that we are all experiencing with so many media outlets.

 

May 19, 2010 03:31 AM