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Why Don't More REALTORS Own Investment Property?

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Real Estate Agent with Ad Astra Realty BR00222587

Tom LundstedtIn the Summer of 2005 I took a class being taught by a CCIM by the name of Tom Lundstedt.  Aside from being one of the most entertaining instructors I have ever learned from, he was by far one of the most knowledgeable.  At some point during the two day class Tom threw out a statistic that startled me.  I'd be lying if I said I could remember it exactly.  But it was something like "only 6% of real estate agents in the country own investment property."

Let me re-emphasize that I cannot remember the exact quote or number.  But it wasn't much different than that.  My experience has told me that it simply cannot be far from the truth, in any case.  Do you own any income property?

Why?  How can this be?  Mr. Lundstedt had a valid and relevant question;  "If real estate agents aren't convinced as to the power of owning residential investment property, how are they going to convince others and represent them when negotiating investment property?"

There were probably about 45 agents in that classroom that day.  By mid-way through the second day of the class at least half of those agents had tuned out.  Although not the reason I had come, most of the real estate agents in that room were there satisfying their ongoing quest for hours towards earning their GRI.  (Kind of like adding blog posts for points.  Not really to benefit anyone...just to get the points.)  (I'm sorry, I won't make any more snide statements...probably...)

Alarm ClockWhat a shame.  Owning rental property can be the key for real estate agents to secure their own retirement.  Folks, WAKE UP!!!  As professional real estate agents there is no retirement plan for us.  Yes, we can contribute to IRAs and count on our social security checks.  (I know, but try not to snicker.  Some people are really counting on those.)  But you have the key to financial freedom right there in your hands.

 

 

  • Who sees properties that come on the MLS before anyone?  Right, you do. 
  • Who has the ability to network with contractors to find properties that need repairing BEFORE they come on the market?  Right, you do. 
  • Who can network with those same contractors to secure lower bids for their property repairs?  Right, you do.
  • Who should understand the power of appreciation more than anyone?  Right, you.
  • Who should know value when they see it?  Right, you.

My dear colleagues, please pay careful attention here.  You do not need to be a landlord of 25 properties to make a significant difference in your later years.  Buy properties that you know.  Buy properties that will pay for a property manager so you can do best what you do.

I want to challenge you to consider purchasing one property this year.  Yes, before the year is out. I want you to add at least one property a year for the following nine years.  When you get to ten, you'll be a millionaire.  Or a millionaire in waiting.  There is really no way around it.  Don't believe me?  Spend time on my blogs and look at the math.  Take half an hour one evening and sit down with a pencil, paper and a calculator.  Work out the numbers. 

If you still have any questions, email me.  I want you to be financially secure when you are sixty.  I want you to work only with clients you choose to work with.  I know all about having to hustle.  I've started my real estate career TWO times.  Once in Tulsa and once when I returned to Kansas City.  It was selling my investment Bill Murrayproperties that carried me through the start up phase. 

It will be my investment properties that carry me through my shut-down phase, too.  And by shut-down I hope I mean choosing to work when and with whomever I choose.  Not die.  That would be a drag.  But you know what?  My wife and kids will be taken care of.  And on my death bed I've been promised total consciousness.  So I'll have that going for me.

 

Ron Hackett
Coldwell Banker Heart of the Hills - Kerrville, TX
CRS,GRI,ABR,SRES,e-Pro
Chris You have a good case as to why most realtors should invest in real estate. I can tell you after 12 yrs in the business I sure won't , you have to have thick skin and be able to take the heat and dish it out.
Jun 17, 2007 02:49 PM
Jeff Fulgham
T.U.P. Realty - Tupelo, MS
Broker E-Pro ABR
I guess I am one of the few. I actually became a broker because I had property.
Jun 17, 2007 02:50 PM
Nattalie de la Mothe
Maximum One Greater Atlanta Realtors - Atlanta, GA
Selling Atlanta Homes like a Boss

Chris - suprising isn't it?

I was wondering the same thing. One of my goals is to become an real estate investor and rely on the returns of my investment as a source of stable income to offset the fluctuations in the market.

Jun 17, 2007 02:54 PM
Chris Lengquist
Ad Astra Realty - Olathe, KS
Kansas City Real Estate Investing

Ron - we have to have thick skin as agents, as well.  With all those initials behind your name I see that you have learned that.  Just take care of yourself, too.  I know you will.

Jeff - it seems most of the agents that own investment properties backed in to real estate, as well.  At least that is what I run into.

Nattalie - I own properties but don't really consider myself an "investor."  They are my security blanket.

Jun 17, 2007 02:58 PM
Andrew Lietzow
IaREIA | Iowa Landlord Association - Des Moines, IA
MBA-Exec Dir Iowa Real Estate Investors Association -

Hi, Chris Lengquist - Great post.  In our Two Rivers REIA we spend a lot of time making sure investors know that running real estate investments is actually a business.  For some agents, they simply do not want the distraction nor can they do both jobs well, simultaneously.  This may actually be a wise choice.   

I can tell you that from 1979-1982, I bought about 7 single-family rentals alone, 3 with partners, and one tri-plex.  That period in history was following a few years of double-digit inflation, followed by the worst real estate recession since the great depression.  The debate continues as to whether it was the Carter economics policies or the Reagan ones that got us into such a debacle.  I remember mostly the fun of it, but ultimately, the pain of losing it ... all.  I accept 100% of the responsibility but none of the blame (that goes to Reagan "trickle down", voodoo-economics policies. Never reached me, and certainly never reached my tenants -- still hasn't!).  Anyhow ...

I was a full-time Realtor, married, with two children and I started reading lots of books, going to lots of RE ra-ra seminars (you know the ones), and I started investing some of my commissions into property.  For me, however, rather than listening to the agents in my office who said, "It's location, location, location" I seemed to gravitate to Mark Haroldson's mantra, "It's cash flow, cash flow, cash flow".  Or, "Buy with nothing down" which I frequently did.  In fact, I got so good at it, I'd put cash in my pocket at closing.  Bad plan.  

Because of the large increase in unemployment in Iowa, we actually began to see deflation in property values.  As unemployment climbed to about 10%, many of my tenants lost their jobs.  One day, I awoke to the reality of having five houses on the market, all vacant and "prepped for sale" but with no buyers.  Not even nibbles.  No tenants and no buyers led to deeds in lieu of foreclosure which led to me owing my rich Uncle a lot of cash (from having to recognize forgiveness of debt as though it were ordinary income.  I was losing my shirt and the IRS thought I was getting rich!)

So, my mantra today, 25 years later, is for investors to make sure that they understand that this is a business, this real estate investing, and like any business, there are fundamentals that must be followed in order to be successful.  We haven't seen a downturn like 1981 in our industry for 26 years, and this has been very good for RE.   And, of course, I wish I had all of those same properties today -- I would be a millionaire and many of those properties would be paid for!  In reality, however, all I have is a memory of what it's like to have your wife mad at you because the phone was ringing off the hook (because of ads I was running to try and get tenants!) and, tenants who would do $000's in damage to a property on the way out, or leave their two dogs inside the property for two weeks before I discovered they had moved on, and the like ...

Now mind you, and anyone else that reads this, most of this I could have avoided had I been investment savvy -- had I had a mentor, or belonged to a Real Estate Investment Association like one affiliated with the National REIA.  But I was wet behind my RE investing ears and didn't even know it! 

When I returned to the business after a 25 year hiatus, to focus on Des Moines Real Estate for owner-occupants and investors, I made a decision early on that I personally would only invest in Multi-family properties -- projects large enough that the cash flow that will support at least part-time, professional management because 1) I don't want to be distracted from my main business, and 2) I don't want to compete with my clients for investments.  If I help enough of my clients reach their goals, I will, too!  

Today, I know the rental market extremely well, both the ups and the downs.  I advise my clients to proceed with caution, to make sure they have adequate reserves, and to put at least 10-20% down -- to buy smart and at wholesale, the latter being the most critical component.   If you're adequately conservative, you'll have the DSCR (Debt Service Coverage Ratio) to survive a downturn -- to drop rents if you have to, to stay afloat.  In a strong downturn, you're competing for a diminishing tenant pool, and you must be positioned to win against other very savvy investors!   

I understand CAP Rates, the need for C on C return (immediate is vastly preferrable), IRR, depreciation recapture rules, DSCR, the need for qualified property management (yes, we Realtors can do that ourselves, but every hour we spend chasing down a tenant issue is an hour we can't be in the business that cranks out that short-term commodity we all need - cash), hard-money lending, rehab loans, short sales and pre-foreclosure sales, options, flipping properties (also a business -- the construction business), etc., etc.

Real Estate investing can be very profitable, but so can owning a McDonald's.  Business ownership is not  the right choice for everyone, including many realtors.  And, for those who choose to invest, join a Real Estate Investors Association long before you leap.  And, if you already own property, it's still not too late!    

Great blog entry, Chris!   I believe I have quite a number of blog entries that can be informative, for those who are ready to take the plung, or already have.  I don't mean to steal any of your thunder, but everything in balance, that's my mantra now...   

Jun 18, 2007 01:35 AM
Chris Lengquist
Ad Astra Realty - Olathe, KS
Kansas City Real Estate Investing

Andrew - So much of what you say it so true.  You absolutely must use sound economic policies to judge, purchase and run an investment property.  Most people get themselves in trouble when they stray from sound numbers.

My point of this post was to encourage real estate agents to do so.  If anyone should know, it should be them. 

Your comments are always welcome here, Andrew.  Just keep in mind that it's considered by ActiveRain and it's community to leave links in your comments of other people's posts.  I did the same thing when I was getting started.  So I hope you take this in the spirit it is intended.  Keep up the good work.  Hope to see you around in Rain.

Jun 18, 2007 01:50 AM
Andrew Lietzow
IaREIA | Iowa Landlord Association - Des Moines, IA
MBA-Exec Dir Iowa Real Estate Investors Association -

Hello again, Chris.  Re: "Just keep in mind it's considered ... "  I am thinking the missing word is "rude" so I took that link out.  Any other links not appropriate? 

I really do not want to steal your thunder, as your post was excellent.  The best part I liked was the recommendation that for many of us, a pace of adding one property per year a pretty good clip.   This absolutely is the best scenario as it allows full-time REALTORS to stay full-time REALTORS! 

Jun 18, 2007 01:57 AM
Nick Good
The Good Home Team with eXp Realty - McKinney, TX
www.TheGoodHomeTeam.com

I know that a lot of the agents around here in Dallas got into real estate to help them get into the investing business.  Many of these people discovered that they are making more money just helping people broker transaction than by buying rental properties.  I also think that many of the other agents want to buy investment properties but they are scarred to take that leap and put their money and credit on the line.  I personally have money set aside in CD accounts so I can build up enough cash to put down 10-20%, and I should have that in the next 6 months.  I've seen the power of investment properties and If you are overly prepared then you can stand up against any downturn in the market.   That's just my two cents.   Great Post!

Jun 18, 2007 05:44 AM
Dianne Barody
Century 21 AmeriSouth Realty - Pensacola, FL
Pensacola Florida Real Estate
Hi Chris, loved your post.  I have owned rental property for quite sometime now.  The passive income helps when the market is slow.  Yea, sometimes tenants can be a problem, but it is worth it!
Jun 20, 2007 06:02 AM
Anonymous
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Chris, Amen! I started in real estate because I wanted to purchase my first investment property. So I went to licensing school. My view is that landlording and selling entail two different "gears." It's difficult to switch gears from tending to your customer base and treating yourself like a customer.
Jun 20, 2007 07:16 AM
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Chris Lengquist
Ad Astra Realty - Olathe, KS
Kansas City Real Estate Investing
Nick, Dianne & Andrew - thanks for commenting.  I want to stress that I believe agents need to create their own retirements...unless they want to sell into their '90s.  Buy a proeprty and hire a property manager. Same as we would advise our clients. Thanks for reading!
Jun 20, 2007 07:36 AM
Kelly Turbeville
Keller Williams - Lake Forest, CA
Turning Real Estate Dreams into Reality

Chris - Wow, this is one of the post that I read after just having lunch with a friend talking about investments and why we aren't doing it, since it was one of our primary goals in this business.   We know part of the answer reates to money, 2nd in So Cal the initial up front dollars are high with the property values, but I also believe the return is better. 

Thanks for the reminder!

Jun 20, 2007 01:14 PM
Tim Beck
Bone & Company - Mayfield, KY

Actually, just 2 or more properties can make a difference in ons life. You can always sell them...that simple. Have a great weekeknd. Tim

Jun 22, 2007 12:25 AM
Todd Clark - Retired
eXp Realty LLC - Tigard, OR
Principle Broker Oregon

This man changed my life! I started to work on getting my first investment property within 2 days of seeing his seminar. This man changed my way of thinking in ways and I can't even put in writing and I have since re-wrote my business plan and my business skyrocket within 3 weeks of his seminar.

Jun 29, 2007 05:18 PM
Chris Lengquist
Ad Astra Realty - Olathe, KS
Kansas City Real Estate Investing

Todd, good to hear.  I had always had a lot of investment clients before his workshop.  But that was the moment for me when I said "This is what I do." 

Tim, so right.

Kelly, I challenge California return rates.  :)  See my KC vs. LA post.  You might be suprised.

Jun 30, 2007 02:22 AM