Well, I have this great stretch of land for sale over yonder that you can turn-around and sell for extreme profits.  Speaking of which, I have this great e-book that you can download for $5.95 and it will pave the path to riches beyond your wildest dreams.  Or, we can just deal with reality.

I'm not sure about others here, but I'm darn sure about myself.  I don't work for a Non-Profit Organization, I don't have that luxury.  In fact, we strive to actually profit off of the services we provide and time we put in at my respective firm.  Yeah, I know, crazy concept.

The statement has been posed before, "I want the lowest rate and no fees, what can you do for me?"  Well, I can inform & educate you to the best of my ability, but if you want a loan for free, call somebody else.

It's probably been discussed, debated, denounced, dissected and displayed how we make money on my side of the business...Financing To Buy or Refinance A Home.  If you've missed it, let me clue you in on how we try to pay our bills.

As a Mortgage Broker here in Pennsylvania, I make money two ways.  Either I charge a fee on the Good Faith Estimate I provide you, which itemizes all costs of the transaction and/or I get paid by the investor to charge a certain rate.  It turns out that what I make tends to be a % of whatever loan amount I'm financing.  Sometimes, that's 2% to my firm, sometimes 4%, sometimes it's only 1% or a flat fee.  Everything in commission based services is negotiable, but my time is not.  It's the only thing I have going for me in this great big world.  I've been granted time....just not sure how much.  I'm not the cheapest around and I will never, ever, strive to be that.  I'm not the most expensive, I'm darn sure not to strive to be that either.  What is my time worth?  As much as yours I guess.  I work hard, I work smart.  You probably work hard and smart as well, we should be paid accordingly.

I don't blame consumers for the often mentioned question of No Point/Lowest Rate Mortgages.  Well, I don't blame them alone.  I want the best deal as well in whatever transaction I enter.  It's what they've been taught.  Is it the smartest question they can ask, heck no.  As a matter of fact, when I field the phone call and that is the question, I know it is typically not the 'Smart' consumer who starts with that question.  Typically, it is just the opposite.  Yet, that's what they've been taught.  1, 2, 3, Jump!  Pavlovian dogs to a sometimes distorted way of borrowing money to buy or refinance their home.

My Point Mr. & Mrs. Consumer is simply this.  Not only ask the why's you have the right to know, ask the how's as well.  Let us educate your wants, fulfill your needs, & understand the process thru & thru.  Do I have the lowest rate, yeah, sometimes I indeed do.  Do I have the lowest fees, nope, but I'm fair and full of disclosure.  Surprises should be saved for Birthdays.

 

 

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JUN
19
2007

The more I read this post, the more I understand the 'frustration'. But (always a but?) I do think the consumer is not nearly a savvy as one may think, and they are just speaking to you as the info they either find on the net, or info given to them from other Brokers.  Human nature.  I could be totally wrong.

As an example, I've seen people that LOVE a house.... have the financing.... but want to LOW-BALL based on either their lack of understanding or their Realtor's input. THEN THEY 'LOSE' THE HOUSE BECAUSE SOMEONE PAID WAS WAS LISTED.  And question why.

 The key is what do they NEED.  And of course want.  

Education to the client is SO key.  The presentation of that education is the DOUBLE KEY.  Don't take a silly request as a negative..... we all need to find that right response/words  to ... 1) Not make the caller/client feel stupid and 2) Educate the person based on asking what they REALLY need.

Excellent blog Jason.

9:11pm • #41
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The best would be a free loan consisting of free money! You got any of those? LOL.
9:34pm • #42
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To All - I really fell behind here and I am going to try my hardest to address everyone individually.  I hope to do so as soon as I can...

9:52pm • #43
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YES! YES! YES!  Very well said and oh so true!  I've been comtemplating a post that would probably be "members only" regarding the consumer and the REALTOR.  I have not figured out how to say it nicely but it does boil down to asking the client/consumer if they would work for free?  And if they feel that's wrong and not something they would do, then why do they expect REALTORS to do so?  So your post is a good one and written at a time I can relate.
10:24pm • #44
JUN
20
2007
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Good post. Thanks for giving us all something to think about.
1:47am • #45
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Great post. i will use some of the dialogue when I am asked to cut my commission.
5:52am • #46
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Jason,

Great post to generate so many thoughtful comments!

Personally, the cheapest loan I (N)ever got was the one where the mortgage broker left me sitting at the closing table with a promise the loan package was in the fax machine.

Guess how I refer to them when speaking with clients shopping for cheap loans?  Let's say, not well.

6:19am • #47
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Ok, I'm back...

Sarah - Great first deal!  Very well done!!  Live Long & Prosper Indeed!!!

Rob - You would you ladies man:-)

Neal - You and me both.  Thanks.

Rob - Well put, I could learn a lot from you & your perspective.

Lenn - Yep, the bottom line on the Good Faith Estimate are the settlement costs, taking everything into consideration.  I am not a big fan of the "No Closing Costs" adds, they are misleading.

Bryant - I hear you there, but busy is good.

Steven - Thanks my friend, I knew you'd get this:-)

Klaus - Seems like you would be a pleasure to work with, thanks.

Ed - Very true in both cases.


Joe - Thanks for the mention in your post and at your meeting.

Tom - LOL @ greenhorn...

Jeff - I do believe that is a Texas Saying.

David - I love the rate section in the newspaper, often times it is nothing more than the Liar's Page.

Jennifer - Thanks > As far as your second sentence, my thoughts are....Next!

Esko - Do you mind if I refer them to you:-)  JK.

Tom - Been there, done that myself.

Thomas - We are all professionals, this is a job, that entails getting paid.  Agreed.

Rob - I think you are getting it, couldn't agree more on the education...

Christy - I don't offer it, but it does exist!  It's called a Grant:-0

Cynthia - I think we can all relate to that.

Bob & Carolyn - Thank you very much!

Gita - Thank you as well, stick to your guns & your worth.

Mike - There has been some great commentary here, thank you for your contribution.

9:23am • #48
JUN
26
2007
Jason, right on target.....no one wants to work for free. 
9:02am • #49
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you rock, this is the best description I have yet to read on the the no cost,  no fee, free loans being offered all over the place.  Would they give away their services for free?  I doubt it.

thanks for this.

9:49am • #50
Jason, What a concept - you should be ashamed - earning an income for your efforts - THE HORROR! ;-) Beautifully written. Consumers and home buyers should know that NOTHING is FREE. There are costs to financing and refinancing. Do they do their jobs for free?
12:17pm • #51

I try to give two scenarios. 1 a fair retail rate and then 2 a wholesale rate bought down with discount points. Depending on how long they plan to stay in the property will determine if they should pay points or take the retail rate.

Does it cost for professional help? Sure it does. You get what you pay for. When I am sick or hurt I go see a Doctor. I don't say well If  I go to the walk in clinic down the street he will only charge this. Please understand that if you provide a product that people need at a price that people can afford and provide the best possible service. You will stay in business.

2:05pm • #52
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Dianne - That is a fact, unless of course somebody would like to pay my bills and give me spending money:-)

Kate - Thanks for the compliment!

Phillip -  I am deeply ashamed:-)

Shaun - Nicely put amigo!

2:31pm • #53
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Jason I agree with you and the loan officer and/or broker that claims that they will take care of the customer hardly ever does. Real estate financing is not a non-profit business venture , we can make a profit and give a customer a great at the same time.

I like your opinions you don't beat around the bush.........

Eddy

8:18pm • #54
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Hey, thanks Eddy.  I'm no good beating around the bush anyways.
8:20pm • #55
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2007
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Funny, I read this post today, because just the other day I was talking to a loan officer, who was working with a client of mine. The buyer used the exact same words and said he was shopping and his score was in low 600s and wanted 100 percent financing, and he had no money  to put down .

6:09am • #56
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Good morning Gita,

Be careful with that one, I obviously don't know the specifics but it sounds like that buyer should be more concerned with actually qualifying for 100% financing.  Again, I don't see a thing wrong with shopping, yet I always get concerned and want to make sure that people get educated about the process.  Let me know if there is ever anything I can do to help.  Have a good day Gita!

6:19am • #57
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31
2007
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Unfortunatey in this market many banks are offering these kinds of loans. NO TITLE FEES..impossible everyone or someone has to pay for the title search, no company does this for free, so where are they getting you?

Phyllis Pafumi 

7:36am • #58
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04
2007
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In many cases rate shoppers and fee shoppers are looking for one thing. A reason to trust us. THey disquise this with the questions they are taught to ask. What are your rates? and I don't want to pay points! If we try and slow down to build that trust and actually build it, these objevtikons give way to an open and honest realtiosshoip. Given the wonderful press and the grandstanding by the government, is there any wonder that they have legitimate fear?

Do little things that build trust. Speak with them, send them advice, put it in writing, ovffer to meet with them to qualify them without taking an application right away.

All that said, there is a segment that will always insist on the lowest price and the highest level of service. Send them to your competition. We need to understand our own value proposition before we can expect our client to.

2:24pm • #59
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Phyllis - Very rarely do I get beaten by a bank, it does happen though.  Everybody is making money somehow, it's a matter of educating the consumer of how it affects their pockets.

John - Excellent point and nicely worded.  Enough said.

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