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At What Point Did Disagreeing with an Idea, Person or Concept Become Heresy?

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Real Estate Agent with Realty Austin, Austin Texas Real Estate 0396717

Yelling at Clouds

I took one of those Facebook quizzes awhile back and was moderately surprised to learn that I was "Moderately Liberal" in my political leanings (If leanings is a word). Now if you were to poll a cross section of people who know me you would get some widely contradicting opinions about this statement. For those with whom I hunt and fish I am known as an avid outdoors-man, gun owner and property rights advocate. I am also considered to have a strong attitude toward fiscal policy and don't really care for an invasive and over large Government. Because of these ideas there are those who consider me more than a little conservative. On the other hand I agree with many that we live in a rich and powerful country and it's appalling that we have so much poverty and hunger in our nation. It's also apparent to me that because of the mindless greed and self serving attitude of many that we need to have regulations to curb and at least make some attempt to avoid the disastrous policies of the last eight years. Those ideas would make me a bleeding heart liberal in the eyes of many. Here is the thing, I AM NEITHER, my beliefs over the spectrum of issues in the world are very diverse and do not define me as right or left or in any way pigeon hole me with a particular ideology. In fact I believe that a large majority of the country is divided along a very narrow line and that we are actually very close to agreeing on almost all issues. Right after the election, I wrote a post entitled The Election is over...and we are still HERE! After hard fought primaries and a contentious election, it looked like we were going to experience some civility and maybe have some non-partisan attempts to compromise and even make some progress together. Unfortunately, nothing of the sort took place...

In my opinion, the attempt to divide or Balkanize the American public is the work of those who have an agenda that is not entirely in the best interests of our country as a whole. It is disturbing to me that based on one or two beliefs I find that people I know, pundits on the news, talk radio and TV "Infotainers" from both sides will excoriate me and a large part of the population for not being "American" enough to support them, no matter how ridiculous. To not agree completely and blindly with the various extreme points of view automatically demonizes anyone who does not go along. To vilify others based on a few differences of opinion is a cheap shot and reminiscent of the tactics of Joe McCarthy back in the 50's. This is absurd because issues are not black and white and that kind of thinking only exists in comic books. We live in a Democracy NOT a Theocracy. We have a separation of church and state to protect us from the same sort of ideology that resulted in the Spanish Inquisition and the Taliban. And it's just as bad when you hear the hateful ideas of any Minister or Preacher who takes something from any religious book out of context and uses it to promote a self serving agenda. Extremism is divisive and usually plays on FEAR. Unfortunately fear works, especially on those who are uninformed or find it easier to follow the claims of anyone who happens to have an"opinion du jour" without actually investigating the FACTS.

The use of distortion, obfuscation and outright lying by different groups in an attempt to manipulate the public and the elected representatives has become inexcusable. Like the man in the cartoon above, there is a lot of "yelling at clouds" and very little effort to deal with facts or work in the spirit of compromise. In fact I was always told that when the volume goes up the IQ drops exponentially! I find it alarming that the level of discourse in our debates has deteriorated to name calling, making false and misleading statements, shouting down the opposition and as my Grandmother use to note "displaying a complete lack of manners". When Rep. Joe Wilson screamed out "You lie!" I was dismayed and thought that it was, to put it simply, trashy behavior! And frankly, while I am on this soap box I am very disappointed in the so called leaders on both sides of the aisle in Congress who have failed to get anything done as well as the talking heads who continue to encourage the politics of "NO". It's as if we are witnessing the death of common sense. After all, the media hosts are in business to make money and maintain ratings. I read somewhere that Rush Limbaugh had a $400,000,000 contract. Heck I could probably keep people stirred up and would even do it for half the money?!?! And the left also has it's share of loud mouthed screamers! My cynical side wants me to think that BIG MONEY has paid EVERYONE and that as voters we are completely ignored. Think about this from a standpoint of how you live in your community, relate to your neighbors and how you conduct your business. In Texas we are known (for the most part) as having pretty good manners as well as for priding ourselves on our quality service. When a customer is not happy there are always consequences. dawdling [noun]: the deliberate act of delaying and playing instead of working. This is the kind of "service" we are getting from Congress. Click on the video below for an old school response to bad manners and "dawdling service". I admit that I get a perverse thrill out of the video but would never actually do that to anyone. It would just nullify anything I said as far as compromise and cooperation. BUT I will say that we all need to start treating each other with some RESPECT. And frankly if anyone acting like Joe Wilson showed up at my house yelling at me, I might just...well, I will leave it to your imagination. The other day I was having lunch with a very good friend who I think highly of and we were talking about some political issues about which we have very differing opinions. It was enough to make the conversation a little bit uncomfortable and we acknowledged this and actually laughed about it and went on and enjoyed a very pleasant time together. I guess it comes down to this, we just have to agree to disagree and continue to maintain friendships and working relationships based on the things we admire and respect about each other. Hopefully, in the long run, common sense will eventually return and we will NOT let media pundits, politicians and lobbyists continue to split us up so harshly. After all we may disagree on a few things but we are still neighbors, associates and citizens of a country that allows us to engage in any type of discussion in as heated a manner as we can without encouraging violence and that's something that will always make our nation great!

Let's remember the things that unite us and ignore those who would divide us for their own selfish reasons!

 

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Georgie Hunter R(S) 58089
Hawai'i Life Real Estate Brokers - Haiku, HI
Maui Real Estate sales and lifestyle info

That was funny - the video snippet.  I have to admit I don't follow much politics, because really, can you believe anything they say?

Oct 15, 2009 03:52 PM
Cathy Lee
CL Design Services Home Staging - Danville, CA
ASP, IAHSP, RESA Danville, CA

I gave up on politics, just lost my heart for it and any trust for those involved.  I love your post and video. You are a good writer. Ever think of running for politics?? I might get involved again!

Oct 16, 2009 04:49 PM
Anonymous
Jonathan

Russell, I read your blog whenever you manage to post, It's funny because though you are an excellent RE Broker, you don't write all that much about real estate in this forum. Thanks for helping us purchase a home thisyear. Your way of looking at politics mirrors you manner of doing business and that's why we will continue to rrecommend you to our friends! And I like the way you included that video, you are reasonable until it's time to put your foot down and that is an excellent illustration

Oct 20, 2009 06:58 AM
#64
Margaret Woda
Long & Foster Real Estate, Inc. - Crofton, MD
Maryland Real Estate & Military Relocation

Yes we are still here, but experiencing things that were unimaginable 10 years ago.  Who could have dreamed the White House would become a personal attack machine against American citizens who don't walk lock-step with them?  Where are we headed with this... not only state-biased media but state-owned media? 

'Hope our children can look back in 20 years and say "We're still here!"

Oct 20, 2009 11:59 PM
Russell Lewis
Realty Austin, Austin Texas Real Estate - Austin, TX
Broker,CLHMS,GRI

Debi I started laughing at your comment and well…yes. Like some of the things I do that illustration was just a bit extreme!

Christine That’s pretty amazing and you really have been exposed to the far reaches of the spectrum. It does not seem to have affected you because you still manage to maintain an open mind!

Terry thanks for the compliment and I will check the sources you’ve mentioned!

Jane Yes and that was one of my points. I still believe the majority of us are very closely aligned and have fewer disagreements than many would have us believe!

Sarah As I mentioned in the post, when the volume goes up the IQ goes down! And too, it’s disappointing when the voters are ignored or representatives just attempt to pacify us with half ass actions!

Allysoun Thank you for the comment and I take that as a compliment, I guess would have fit in with those characters way back yonder!

Oct 21, 2009 02:17 AM
Russell Lewis
Realty Austin, Austin Texas Real Estate - Austin, TX
Broker,CLHMS,GRI

Jason to tell the truth, you are the person I was referring to when we were discussing politics and the universe in general at lunch recently. I do like the way we can agree to disagree and go on about enjoying our time together. As far as Joe Wilson being juvenile, it was way out of line and surprisingly there are a number of people out there who have applauded such boorish behavior! Too bad and oh well, so how about lunch again sometime next week?

Russel I believe you are right when it comes to location and perspective especially comparing Texas and Cali which is kind of funny in itself. I am a bit surprised by your particular leanings (there is that word again) but I do like the fact that you stay involved and engaged in the process. It's clear that you and I have a diverse view of things and do not take a far left or right position. Thanks again for stopping by and adding to the discourse!

Oct 21, 2009 11:07 AM
Debe Maxwell, CRS
Savvy + Company (704) 491-3310 - Charlotte, NC
The RIGHT CHARLOTTE REALTOR!

YooHoo!  Russell, we miss your posts!!  :-)

Oct 21, 2009 03:50 PM
Betina Foreman
WJK Realty - Austin, TX
Realtor, C.N.E., with WJK REALTY

Dear Russell,

I am sorry to be so late to the party. I could not agree with you more on this post. I say you should spend more time on the soapbox, it suits you. Also loved Robert Duvall's character in LD, that bartender got what he deserved for being uppity and dawdling. His action was more drastic, than I would be comfortable doing. As for politics, I think both sides need to be actively working towards some middle ground instead of lowering themselves to insults and fear mongering. My hats off to you for such a well written post! Keep them coming my friend!

Betina

Oct 24, 2009 01:10 PM
Russell Lewis
Realty Austin, Austin Texas Real Estate - Austin, TX
Broker,CLHMS,GRI

Debe I have a couple in the works!

Betina no problem I am always glad to see you anytime and thanks so much for dropping by!

Oct 26, 2009 09:30 AM
Mike Jones
SUNSTREET MORTGAGE, LLC (BK-0907366, NMLS 145171) - Tucson, AZ
Mike Jones NMLS 223495

Russell,

When I saw that there were 70 comments, I was sure this had been featured!  You've touched a nerve, and I appreciate the post.

Mike in Tucson

Oct 29, 2009 11:35 PM
Russell Lewis
Realty Austin, Austin Texas Real Estate - Austin, TX
Broker,CLHMS,GRI

Mike thanks for stopping by, as I said in the post, I rarely write about anything even vaguely political and try to keep it to once a year! Have great week, I ned to get over to your blog and see what's happening in your part of the world!

Oct 30, 2009 02:51 AM
Pippa Mac
Chevaux Group Realtor, The Woodlands and Spring - The Woodlands, TX
The Woodlands TX Real Estate

Russell ... you always put so much into your blogging, I love it!    

Oct 30, 2009 05:53 AM
Renée Donohue~Home Photography
Savvy Home Pix - Allegan, MI
Western Michigan Real Estate Photographer

I am liberal on social issues and I am conservative on fiscal issues.  I sound like a mixed up cat but in reality I am a libertarian.  I have been called many names by both sides for talking my views but I am what I am. 

I think life would be so much better if the electorate grew a brain of their own and weren't so jaded by "boogyman" issues such as the scarlet "A" word and Iraq (at least this past year.)  Those are just "mandates" for reform which never happen.  It happens every election cycle, we get caught up.  Then the two major parties have to go around and the minority party has to trash the majority party pretending there are at least differences. 

Nov 01, 2009 01:56 AM
Russell Lewis
Realty Austin, Austin Texas Real Estate - Austin, TX
Broker,CLHMS,GRI

Pippa It's really nice to see you back around the blog world again and Thanks for the compliments. I look forward to seeing you soon!

Renee We are obviously cut from the same cloth and have the same attitude on both sides of the issues. One of my best friends and running partner told me I was a Libertarian a number of years ago and I thought he said Libertine and when I told him I was not a hard sore "Hedonist" he just laughed and explained it to me and yes you and I both fit the description! It is frustrating that as The Who have said, "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss!"

Nov 01, 2009 06:39 AM
"The Lovely Wife" The One And Only TLW.
President-Tutas Towne Realty, Inc. - Kissimmee, FL

Russell...

I saw the word "Point" and knew it would be okay with you if I typed this strictly for the points :)

Hey. At least I'm honest about it :)

TLW...ROAR!

Nov 10, 2009 10:05 AM
Cynthia Tilghman, Realtor® Onslow County NC Home Specialist
Kingsbridge Realty, Inc - Hubert, NC

Hi Russell,
I missed this earlier--can't a Conservative be compassionate?

Nov 11, 2009 09:53 PM
Anonymous
Sally
Russell, It is such a shame that politics have fallen so low with both sides fighting and getting nothing done. the voters are squeezed in-between and we suffer the lack of any progress from our so called leaders on both sides. I vote Republican but lately feel like I am being pushed aside by the extreme elements in my party. As a woman it's getting harder to find a candidate that cares about womens issues and I think that it's just going to take my party off the deep end. I still cannot vote for Obama though so you can see that it's perplexing for me and I am sure for many others in my party too. I like your blog and you can even write about the sensitive subject with a reasioned opinion. Keep up the good work!
Nov 19, 2009 08:11 AM
#78
Russell Lewis
Realty Austin, Austin Texas Real Estate - Austin, TX
Broker,CLHMS,GRI

TLW I am just flattered that you stopppd by for a visit!

CynthiaOK, I am busted becauseI actually DO know a number of compassionate conservatives and it was a cheap shot at the more eatreme segment that seems to have np compassion for anything! Good point my friend!

Sally I have heard this same complaint from a number of people these days and the problem exists in any situation where extremist views are allowed to dominate the conversation whether liberal or conservative. My concern, like yours is that there is pressure to move the "middle of the road" much farther to the right!

Nov 22, 2009 01:45 AM
Margaret Woda
Long & Foster Real Estate, Inc. - Crofton, MD
Maryland Real Estate & Military Relocation

I've pretty much had it, and refuse to walk around with an upset stomach every day over politics.  Obviously no one cares what I think about anything, so I'm doing my best to return the favor.  Now I listen to country music on the radio, watch HGTV and Law and Order reruns on TV, and count the days til I can vote again - the one place where my opinion matters at least a little.

Nov 22, 2009 10:30 PM
Russell Lewis
Realty Austin, Austin Texas Real Estate - Austin, TX
Broker,CLHMS,GRI

Margaret, in the last few weeks, i have pretty much adopted the same attitude and will semi-patiently await my chance to do the same and VOTE, I hope others do too! Thanks again for stopping by!

Jan 15, 2010 01:52 AM