I am number one or number two in Google for all of the phrases I want to target, for example "AZ FHA loan."

However, every once in a while, a spammy website comes up above me.  I thought the Google algorithm was pretty good at knocking these sites out of the index, but not always, apparently.

I'll give you a good example.  There is another mortgage company in Arizona that likes to use black hat techniques.  One day, they passed me by.

Now if they passed me because I was lazy and wasn't keeping up with the demands of supplying Google with good information, so be it.  But they cheated.

I did a little research by Googling their domain name and I found that they had set up free blogs on many, many free blogging sites.  (But for some reason, they were not on ActiveRain.)

Anyway, all of their blogs were entirely devoid of any information.  Just a short paragraph, with keywords that linked to their spammy site.  (When I say "spammy", I mean that their website didn't make a whole lot of sense to humans, because they just kept repeating "Arizona Mortgage" over and over again.)  Grammatically, it was a mess, but I guess Google liked it.

But they used dirty tricks to knock me out of position, so I reported them to Google.

Google is a computer.  Or a computer algorithm to be more exact.  Sometimes humans need to be involved.  If you are getting cheated, visit Google at:

http://www.google.com/contact/spamreport.html

Now please, please, please don't go around reporting your competition just because they are better at the search engine game then you are.  You'll be wasting your time and the time of everyone that has a legitimate complaint.

But if your competition is using:

  • Hidden text or links
  • Misleading or repeated words
  • Page does not match Google's description
  • Cloaked page
  • Deceptive redirects
  • Doorway pages
  • Duplicate site or pages
  • Or any other black hat type search engine techniques, report them to Google.  It took a couple of months, but the local mortgage company that I reported isn't indexed by Google at all anymore.  (At least at the time of this writing.)

    It's a tough market and we need to be tough.  But fair...  Tough but fair.

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    38 Comments on Competition Cheating You In Google? Report Them.

    OCT
    08

    Wow. Thanks for the information, I learn something everytime I read blogs here.

    12:25pm • #1
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    This is amazing.  I posted this just about an hour ago...maybe?  And the article is already indexed by Google.  The power of AR!

    1:02pm • #2
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    I have been getting splogs stealing my content. Makes me furious. No way to contact them. Thank goodness, I use Google Alerts.

    Constant vigilance...right Michael?

    2:22pm • #3
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    I would never have thought of reporting them to Google!  Interesting... does it really do any good?

    5:56pm • #4
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    kudos to you for taking the time to stand up for yourself.

    tina in virginia

    8:03pm • #5

    Wow, already indexed, that's great, thanks for the post I will keep this in mind next time I see something a little fishy.

    11:13pm • #6
    OCT
    09
    1 Featured Post Outside Blog

    Interesting.  As I am climbing in my state (no black hat tactics) , I will look out for this.  Good to know you can report them.  Thanks for sharing.

    5:05am • #7

    Thanks Michael and Karen,

    It feels like Google will not catch these spammers most of the time. But you make a great point, if you have a legitimate complaint they will and do listen and take action to correct. Good job in doing your research and follow up. Thanks for the post.

    7:29am • #8
    OCT
    10
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    Judi asked if it does any good to report people to Google.  My web guy say's that Google does not tolerate cheaters. 

    8:19am • #9
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    Hmm, actually you are not number 1 for 'arizona fha loan.'  Perhaps you were logged into your Google account when you did the search?  This will skew your results.  I have you as about #6.

    8:24am • #10
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    Oops, I was logged into Google.  When I logged out and did the search again, your FHA page is not on page 1.  However, this page was at #7: www.azwm.com/arizona-first-time-homebuyer.htm  :)

    8:27am • #11
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    Morning Michael,  Great job of explaining how this works and using it to protect all your hard work !

    8:40am • #13
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    You are a peach for sharing this with us!  It's a bookmark and a saved resource.  Thank you so much for sharing and spreading the information.

    8:42am • #14

    Karen

    Thanks for the great post. I sure could use your help. Been trying to improve the ranking of my site. I am also in the mortgage business but focused on the northeast. You seem to know a lot about how to improve the web search optimization. I am new at this and I think I am not approaching it correctly.

    Eric

     

     

    9:42am • #15

    Thank you for the post!! Way to put on your sleuth hat and stay proactive at the same time!!  Great Information!!

     

    9:45am • #16
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    thanks for the insightful report

    9:59am • #18
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    Hey Michael - I know of a website provider who, several years ago, was using tactics that rain against the Google grain.  They were penalized and, unfortunately, so were all of their customers.  Thanks for the info.

    10:08am • #19

    Karen,

    From my IP (deepest Florida) you site ranks #6 for Arizona FHA loan and #21 for Arizona FHA Mortgage (top of 3rd page on Google) 

    I have read that Google is testing regional differences for the same search terms and they are also playing with results based previous searches and browsing from your IP..

    I had a competitor for "net branch" terms spam every blog and forum they could find with the same message and link back to their site to improve ranking. 

    It only worked for a brief time.

    I will em you about a few tweaks you can do to help improve your rank..

     

     

    11:31am • #20

    Karen,

    thanks for the great info on watching out for how others act and how I take care of myself.

    Robby Leviton

    11:52am • #21
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    Excellent info!  I hate when those doorway sites get above me when they offer no redeeming value!

    2:27pm • #22
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    I like your attitude!  Now I know what to do when I find a website that steals my meta tags which include my own name!

    2:49pm • #23
    197,707 Points 2 Featured Posts Outside Blog

    Michael, like you say, make it a fair fight!  Yeah like Georgina said, now I know where to go when this stuff happens.  Thanks.

    4:05pm • #24

    Karen,

    Good blog - just keep adding and changing your content and you will climb in the rankings.  Companies copy us all the time, but we just try to stay one step ahead of them.

    Vince

    4:33pm • #25
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    Good article.  I do not understand all the Black Hat Techniques, but I will certainly watch for the things you are talking about.

    8:00pm • #26
    Outside Blog

    Great info but what is "Black Hat" mean?  Thanks again!

    8:35pm • #27

    This is VERY interesting.  I don't even know what some of those things are!!

    10:43pm • #28
    OCT
    11
    Outside Blog Hit Router

    I've seen some competitors who seem to "stuff" their sites with stupid terms to the point that it's not logical reading. There's good SEO but there's also stupid text for visitors!

    12:35am • #29
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    I too use Google alert and am amazed at where my content is highjacked to and how many spam blogs there are. Makes me mad as I spend time on my stuff and years getting to the top pages I am on. Grrr...Thanks for the link to report this!

    9:30am • #30
    OCT
    12

    Thanks for the link.  Very helpful!

    2:41pm • #31

    Karen, Very interesting post. Thanks for the link.  I haven't been able to use Google Alert.  I have the same name as a famous (dead) writer and I kept getting alerts on her name, lol!

    3:34pm • #32

    Thanks for the info.  I wasn't aware of this.

    3:47pm • #34
    OCT
    13
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    Michael and Karen. It is great to hear that you are doing well on Google. I am glad that you reported them.

    12:46am • #35
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    15
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    THanks for the link. I don't think a lot of people realize that you can actually report this type of activity.

    7:50am • #36
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    19
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    Michael: I have a competitor that ranks very high in the search engines, They never refresh their content, don't have a blog, the site is almost entirely Flash, they use very few keywords and I can't, for the life of me, figure out why they are ranking so high. Black hat? I don't know how to figure out if they are using black hat techniques or not.

    9:04pm • #37
    OCT
    20
    130,402 Points 29 Featured Posts

    Hi Michelle--  That is pretty unusual.  I would have to guess a couple of things.  Like, I think they have probably been around a long time.  Google does seem to give more respect to well seasoned websites.  But the lack of information is pretty odd.  They probably just have lots and lots of inbound links and that increases their importance in Google.  One thing you can never stop doing is working on your inbound links...

    2:13pm • #38
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    18
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    THanks for the info. I recently was penalized by google and can't figure why. Even if I google my first and last name it doesn't show my site on the first page http://www.karinaleal.com

    I sent an email to google and haven't received any answers yet. I used to get at least 10 leads daily from my site and now am down to zero...

    If you would have any additional information, please do let me know. Thanks, Karina.

    11:20am • #39
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    19
    130,402 Points 29 Featured Posts

    Karina--  I looked at your site and you have three things that I would change.  First of all, THE TITLE.  It's way too wordy and Google needs you to get to the point.

    You know that giant text that you have on your page?  I would use THAT for my page title.

    Finally, no offense, but unless you are world famous or something, I would never, ever use my name as a domain.  It tells Google nothing.  You might as well have random letters between the www and the com.  Google doesn't know what a "Leal" is.  It's not in the dictionary and it's essentially worthless as a domain name.

    Now that you are so far back, you may want to consider dumping that old domain name and picking out something that makes more sense for your content.

    DelrayandBocaRaton.com is available right now from GoDaddy.  I would spend the $8.95 and transfer all of your old content to this new domain.  And then be sure to take down the old one.

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