As FHA's current overhaul on backing loans for condominiums looms, I'm asking to myself "what next?" and wondering how the overhaul will affect our local Seattle Metro area's condo communities. In a tough market, in a time when we are still seeing values decline, owners slip into short sale, foreclosure and misery, this might be an unwelcome change. Not just for our area but across the nation. As FHA revamps it's lending practices, adds a .5% requirement to buyer's down payments, and is also removing many approved lenders from their roster (a good thing!) things will get much more difficult in the realm of condo sales. Therefore, we need to become "new" experts in condominiums. We need to commit to due diligence, and fully understand the new processes that will soon be implemented so we can smoothly and successfully guide our buyers and sellers down the path of transferring ownership between parties.

I think it is wise to have condo communities "reapply" for approval status, although I worry that the re-approval process that will be happening across the nation will be greater than FHA's resources will be able to bear. And as such, I can only assume that many deals over the next few months... those that are FHA based financing of course will be burdened by much longer, convoluted closings while the kinks get worked out. Not to mention the denials they undoubtedly will be garnering out. It is unfortunate that this is taking place right now but I do appreciate the fact that the spot approvals will be going away and it will be a "this or that", "yes or no" mentality with which condominium communities will qualify. One perplexing thing about it is how rigid they will stick to the requirement for an "updated reserve study" performed within 12 months of application.

I'm hoping that the change also gets rid of innaccurate information posted on the MLS from listing agents being lazy and checking the box stating that a condo is "FHA approved" because they saw it on another agents listing sheet for a current or closed transaction in the community. I don't know how many agents have said that was their verification process when I pressed the issue to find out how they knew it was truly FHA approved. Ummm, that, my friend, IS NOT doing your due diligence... or your job, nor is it properly representing your client!

To make things easier, here's a tip... HUD has a revamped web site. No, really!!... check it out! www.hud.gov that leads you (very easily now) to the page where you can search for the condominium project (go to HUD.gov, click on the Resources Tab, then look for HUD Approved Condominium Projects in that tabs drop down). I will admit that the page it brings you to still sucks and is archaic in usability. Hopefully they will freshen it up and make it more user friendly as they've done with the main screen. None the less, I'm glad to see that we will have more accurate information on our MLS of which properties are HUD/FHA approved, and which are not. I think the new requirements are detailed more on their Mortgagee Letter ML 2009-01

So in a nutshell, I believe two things... change is good, but sometimes change is painful. All we can do is look to the future, educate ourselves, and do our best at navigating the new world of FHA for our clients!

 
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31 Comments on America, meet the new FHA condominium guidelines.

OCT
08
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Brad - Thank for an excellent post on a very relevant subject.

Agents who list and sell condos will need to become even more detail oriented, which is a good thing.

The chink-in-the-chain may be the HOA Management Companies ....They will need to ensure that the documentation they produce and distribute are accurate and current, otherwise Lenders will not approve the Condominium Projects and deals will fall through.

8:51pm • #1
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Interesting how we keep hearing the words "protect the consumer" when all the new regs do is make it harder for people to buy (or developers to sell and thus repay their loans). The pendulum has definitely swung from one extreme to the other, hopefully we will find the middle sooner rather than later. So true about agents knowing if a condo project is truly FHA approved, we all need to do our job better these days, and good news on the new website!

8:53pm • #2
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I think it is good this revamp.  So many of these condo projects are going to be major problems for home owners.

9:00pm • #3

Great information and certainly a topic that affects all Real Estate Agents.  An associate of mine lost a contract on a listing recently because a condominium complex that was FHA approved about 2 weeks ago is no longer.  We need to be sure that we stay on top of these guidelines and are working with lenders that are 1 step ahead of us!  It would be nice if we could rely on listing agents to be accurate, but I think we all know it's in our buyer's best interest to research FHA eligibility ourselves.   Thanks for bringing this up!

Shelly Christensen
10:16pm • #4
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Brad, This is an easier site to use https://entp.hud.gov/idapp/html/condlook.cfm

Condominiums are quite the challenge now. Even if several condos in the same complex have sold and settled FHA, there is no assurance that your sale will go through. When spot approvals are done..why don't the associations apply for full approval?

What can we do to help this situation?

 

10:16pm • #5

There needs to be a way to obtain info on the condo cert without paying every person interested each paying $125 over and over. Maybe the listing agent and/or HOA could provide this. Since this info, like % of delinquencies, is always fluid, we need a way to keep this info updated

10:24pm • #6
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As with any new government program I think that it will take some time to determine how well this will work.

10:38pm • #7
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I have a condo listed right now that I am working through this on as it is not FHA approved.  We'll see how it all goes.

11:34pm • #8

It will be interesting to see how these regulation will affect the condo prices in a already depressed market. Great info!

11:47pm • #9
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09
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The reapproval process will bog down. FHA thinks that lenders will take up the slack, but most lenders I have spoken with are still evaluating whether to approve condominiums.

Richard

5:20am • #10

Thanks Brad, that's very useful info.

Linda Metallo, Re/max Impact, Lockport, Il.

6:28am • #11

Brad:

I will have to check out that web page you are talking about and the one listed by Margaret too. 

Thank you.

 

6:33am • #12
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I work with a developer currently selling a condo project with another one on the horizon.  When I started reading about the changes in FHA approval my reaction was the same one...what's next.  Fortunately on our current project we never tried to get FHA approval but did get VA approval (go figure).  The next project might be more troublesome as they would be at a price point you would expect to see FHA buyers.

7:37am • #13
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Thanks Brad, I've got to check this out as I am planning to sale my condo in Virginia.

9:01am • #14
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Thanks for the post!  I do agree with you...I do see spot approvals disappearing as a positive thing.  I’ve seen time and time again my colleagues go into escrow on a condo only to have the spot approval denied.  We don’t get paid for spinning our wheels, so knowing that we can close the loan because the project is approved will help us all do more business efficiently as well as protect agents and loan reps reputations for being able to get the deal done.  That being said so many condos in my area are for cash only buyers…so many of them do not meet the 51% owner occupancy requirement.  It’s an extremely challenging time for the condo market…hopefully some new programs can be developed for this segment of the market.

 

 

9:49am • #15
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Thanks Brad... We don't sell many condos here in small-town Georgia because there aren't many to sell.  However, I'm working on one now for a couple. They will likely go conventional, but your post has made me aware that I need to bone up on this issue nevertheless.  One question... are we talking strictly "condos," or are single-family, fee-simple townhomes (e.g. one or two common walls, etc.) included in the FHA changes also?

10:44am • #16

Thank you for the thoughtful post.  And for promo'g the HUD link, for finding FHA approved condos. This is info tons of agents will use. - Julie McCullough Hale, Ticor Title, RRNetwork.com

Julie McCullough Hale
10:53am • #17
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Another great post. I own an office condominium with residential units above me. Thanks to your post, I will be urging our condo management company to check into recertification with FHA.

11:08am • #18
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Getting a spot approval was the only way to sell some condos. Without it--there will tons more condos on the market--and almost impossible to get financing.

11:40am • #19
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Getting a spot approval was the only way to sell some condos. Without it--there will tons more condos on the market--and almost impossible to get financing.

11:40am • #20

Good post. Along south Florida's coastline, an insignificant number of projects is approved when you search by zip codes. Most lenders are currently approving projects on a case by case basis through an in house process at underwriting.

Some are even charging a fee to the borrower for that process...

11:43am • #21
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I am afraid these new regulations will just make condo prices fall.

11:44am • #22
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It is a catch 22.  They want to protect themselves from a down market and everything they do is driving the market down.

12:44pm • #23
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Thank you for the info!  

1:37pm • #24
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RE: Bill Blair's question "One question... are we talking strictly "condos," or are single-family, fee-simple townhomes (e.g. one or two common walls, etc.) included in the FHA changes also?"

This change is just in reference to those units which are legal condominiums, so I'd look to the legal description to see how they are recorded.

To Margaret Rome, thank you so much for that additional link to HUD's page... it is a direct hyperlink to where I lead people in my article so people could just bookmark that if they did not want to enter through the "front door" of HUD's web site.

To everyone else... great comments, great thoughts, and I wish I could respond to them all but I've only got 86,400 seconds in the day... not nearly enough time!

Best~

Brad

2:07pm • #25
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Brad - I find this statement comical ... "I'm hoping that the change also gets rid of innaccurate information posted on the MLS from listing agents being lazy and checking the box stating that a condo is "FHA approved".  That would be awfully nice!! I don't know why local MLS's put up with it. I've seen such trash at times. No room counts, 0x0 for measurements. Flat out wrong info. As a lender who sometimes relies on that information, agents potentially screw themselves when giving inaccurate property info.

4:50pm • #26
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It will be interesting to see how things pan out next year I think there is more pain to come

5:08pm • #27
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I'm tired of the kinks! One of your points on the FHA approval list is not always 100% correct. There are a few subdivisions that are on there that are incorrect. Here's something new, verify a closed FHA transaction. Wow, there's a new thought Mr. Lazy Time Agent.

I think we are going to have alot of problems with associations not thinking this is an important topic & getting re-verified every 2 years for the new requirements.  My area has some problems already now.

10:23am • #28

We have been working with many condominium developers on getting their condo developments pre-approved for FHA/HUD financing.  There is a list of items that need to be submitted related to the legal status of the development, developer and construction stage of the project.  Also necessary, depending upon which geographic region the project resides in, is a new Phase I Enviromental Site Assessment (ESA) for the project as well as issues related to floodplains, wetlands, etc.  Once pre-approved, it may help eliminate the case by case approvals required for each unit.

Nicholas Maloof
10:57am • #29
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Well Brad, change usually means more work for us Realtors. However, if it is truly protecting our clients...then so be it.

1:04am • #30

Some of the changes will keep the condo market here in Phoenix scraping bottom!  The recovery/leveling out will even take longer now!!  I guess one can chalk it up to the 'good, the bad, and the ugly'!

1:13pm • #31

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