It was evident that the house had very recently been re-carpeted---this is common with houses that have been “cleaned-up” a bit before putting them on the market.  The carpet, along with re-painting the entire interior and appropriate staging, did improve the appearance.  It most likely did assist in making the home more salable.

     The re-carpeting though did bring up an interesting issue.

The Gas Shut-off Key      I am sure most of you that have gas fireplaces, or that know people that have gas fireplaces, have sometimes seen the keyed gas shut-off located near the fireplace in the wall or in the floor.  Not all gas fireplaces have this type of keyed shut-off, but this one did.

     There are a couple of things I like to determine about these shut-offs.  One thing is, “where is the key?”  It is kind of nice to be able to tell the buyer that it was seen in such and such a place and to make sure it is still around when they take possession.  If I can’t find it, they might want to ask the seller if it is around somewhere----or figure on having to buy a new one.

     If I find it installed in the shut-off that is good information to provide the buyer because, not only do I know where it is, but I can also remind my buyer that the key should never be left in the shut-off valve because little children might find it interesting.  Again----good safety information to provide the buyer.

     At this house, I noticed that the shut-off location was indeed on the floor next to the fireplace and---yup---the key was still in it.  As I reached down and fiddled with the key, I noticed that the whole device was loose and the key was not making contact with anything inside the hole. 

     From inside the crawl space it became evident why this was the case.

Disconnected in the crawl space

     The carpet guys had simply removed the decorative, supporting top piece and then rolled out the carpet.  Then they could not re-attach the device to the component in the crawl space because the pipe in the crawl space had dropped down too much.  Guess who is NOT about to send someone into the crawl space and push the pipe up enough so that someone above could get the top piece to thread on to it?  You probably guessed it…….

     The carpet baggers----as they grab the money and run!

Charles Buell

 

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29 Comments on The carpet baggers---grab the money and run!

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Does this mean there was gas leaking into the crawl space since the pipe wasn't connected?  I recently had a property where we discovered the "flippers" hadn't reconnected the drain pipe in the shower.  When the inspector turned it on water poured out of the kitchen ceiling.  Fortunately the blame was squarely on the contractors shoulders and not ours for breaking something.

9:24am • #2
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Charles, I've seen this done also by a carpet company, the also lost the key to hide it...
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Paul

9:25am • #3
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Cindy, no---the actual gas valve is in the part that is permenantly attached to the pipe in the crawl space.  The part that shows in the room is just to hold the device in place and line up the hole for the key.

Paul---I imagine this happens quite often.

9:29am • #4
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Charles - Not my job!!!  While I understand a carpet installer's reluctance to re-connect the gas valve, it would be nice to let someone know--or perhaps they did. That's a great example of why you have to follow up on everything--and why you always need a home inspection.

9:34am • #5
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Great information Charles.

I'll bet it was the same carpet installers who did this job...



A Carpet installer's Worst Nightmare!

10:26am • #6
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John and yet they did not apparently have a problem "disconnecting" it:)

Craig---that is the one---I am sure of it:)

10:35am • #7
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Charles, would you believe I know where my keys are! However I do not recommend electronic key finders. I bought a daughter one and she had to be within inches of the keys for the finder to detect them.

11:17am • #8
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Hummm now that you mention it I don't know where my basement fireplace key is located.  I'll be on a mission today!

12:10pm • #9
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Ohhh that is so weird....i've never seen the key/lock on the outside like that - but good searching - you inquisitive guy you!

2:12pm • #10

Charles, I have never had gas heating that required a key like that. I would be calling back the carpet installers to fix what they broke, though.

2:59pm • #11

I've never been in a house with a gas fire... thanks for the heads-up!

4:41pm • #12
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Picturing rotten carpet installers helped remove the blowfly image LOL.. We had one of those keys in our last house too. We were always searching for the key because we kept it away from the kids.  Good catch!

5:35pm • #13
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Kate---wrong type of keys---pay attention:)

Heather, ask the kids---they probably know:)

Liz, they don't do it that way in Canada?

Jan---probably a good call

Shoshana, come on----I know they have gas fire-places in Florida---don't they?

Ana, thanks.

6:13pm • #14
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I was paying attention! I was just rambling blogging rambling.

6:40pm • #15

Well, Charles, there's this little thing called the Gulf of Mexico where I am, and they strongly discourage gas lines in shallow sand with a high water table :)  So, the houses I am familiar with don't have gas and you would never even think of looking for gas.  Up north I knew about those old-fashioned keys for radiators, to release the air that made them whistle... and those weren't gas, either.  I don't know how I've missed the gas areas!

8:49pm • #16
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I learn that daily I cannot find my gas shut-off key.

5:03am • #17
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Hello Charles, love the story here.  Do these valves not come with a keeper-nut installed before the decorative piece to prevent such calamities?  John

1:28pm • #18
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Kate, rambling is good:)

Shoshana----ahh yes---I can well imagine

Jay, if you are anything like me that is unfortunate:)

John---good question----not that I have ever seen.

2:18pm • #19
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Mr Charles,

Speaking of carpet baggers. The folks from that inspection the other day called and wanted to know where all their  copper wire and pipe went. I told them we do not know.

Nutsy

2:44pm • #20
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Check the boss's truck----doesn't have them black windows for no reason.

3:16pm • #21
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Nutsy's mother just checked. Sure enough she found a lot out back in the boss' shed.

3:45pm • #22
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I know those keys. There was one in a foreclosure property and I took it to my office for protection. I figured the ones cleaning up would dump it. Upon the sale, I gave it back for use in the house.
8:26pm • #23
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Kate, nice work:)

Barbara, smart move on your part----they are very prone to getting lost.

10:48pm • #24
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Hi, Charles. You weren't an English major, were you? You always have such clever titles.

2:27pm • #25
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Leslie, my love affair with writing and abusing the English language goes back a long ways.

2:40pm • #26
OCT
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I get the gas valve thing, but how did you get to the valve in the crawlspace with the whole 2" of  clearance??  An extremely good dieting program?  Is your alias name Plastic Man??  Inquiring minds wanna know :)

6:49am • #27
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Joshua, LOL----I so missed that opportunity:)  Actually that is two flex ducts so close together that it looks like the crawl space floor.

9:47am • #28
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Charlie - Never saw this gadget, now I will know it. Thanks.

11:44am • #29

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