Dear Active Rain/Project Bloggers,

First and foremost I stand up and applaud all of you for Blogging. 35% of the Realtor world still doesn't use websites so I am awed that you guys are out there using progressive technology and doing the right thing. I also respect each of you for putting yourselves out there to be judged. It's not easy to do that. I have been writing since I was a kid (books, plays, movies and scores of articles). My ego has been shattered into a 1000 pieces. I've used duct tape to piece it back together. But every critic made me want to go deeper, do better to prove them wrong. The harsher the criticism, the more it made me reflect. I tried not to be harsh, just truthful to my sensibilities.
 
In judging these blogs, I looked for the following: Content. Localism. Honesty. Passion. Originality. Style.

I didn't care about Google placement or any of the technical stuff. I approached this purely as a consumer and what value the Blog site offered me as a person looking to learn more about the community. As I am sure you know, a Blog, even more than a website, needs to really say something. It needs to stand for something and stay true to that focus. I should be honest. Real not forced. It should have a personal side and reflect the Bloggers perspective but also be mindful of not crossing that line into making this all about you. These are the Blog rules I subscribe too. They are purely my opinion, not neccesarily fact. It's the criteria by which I judged.   

The following is in order of what most favorable to least. Good luck to all of you.
Marc Davison l Partner
1000watt Consulting l Turn on 



Julie Ferenzi & Jeff Turner - Living in Plainfield
What do I like about this Blog? Everything. What don't I like about it? Nothing.

"If you Like that Post, then try these..." Brilliant. Very Zappos. Very Amazon.

I love your headlines. They are witty, yet not over the top. The pictures are cool. Love the rounded corners. It wouldn't matter if they were square but the fact that they are rounded told me you cared about every detail. The Plainfield Mystery. Great Blog. Short, sweet and probably tapped into the minds of other locals.

Overall I feel this Blog was written by a non-Realtor. From her artsy styled personal photo to her simple tag line "I love Living in Plainfield" told me her career is her passion. Not a job, a hobby, or something she does to earn commission. This is who she is. I clicked on the Charity link afraid it was going to delve into that weird "sales" place trying to hard to get me to connect with her as a human being, but this was anything but that. It was real, honest and endearing. Take the piece "Doctors". Very transparent writing. Julie doesn't spin things. She just tells it like it is. I was drawn to that.

I'm usually critical of agents who lure the reader in through one topic only to sneak in self- promotional advertorial. "On My Mind" was the perfect place however, for Julie to offer her human side. It was compartmentalized were it should be – in its own section away from commentary and neighborhood info. Thank you Julie for doing that and as a result, I chose to go there and immerse myself a bit more in your life. I may not be buying a home in Plainfield but would love to meet your husband.

All in all this was my favorite blog site. It was neat and organized. I love the links to Schools, Community, etc. As you will see, I have a bit of an issue with placing charity causes, religious affiliations or political agendas on these blogs because I believe they detract from what these Blogs inherently are supposed to be: windows into the community so that I, the real estate consumer can make sound decisions about your community. Yet somehow, because this site kept me on it so long, I actually "got" Julie and understood why this was there.

Plainfield will never be plain as long as you're selling real estate in it.

 

****UPDATE****

The Forgotten Team: For those of you who've been paying attention to Week 10 of Project Blogger, you'll be aware that one team was left out. For this omission I (Caleb) apologize.  This will cause an upset in the results for week 10 as the group left out is placed 2 in the line-up, and without further delay here is the critique: 

Teri Lussier & Greg Swann - The BrickRanch

The criteria I set for a quality Blog is how close it comes to connecting the reader to the Blogs advertise agenda. The BrickRanch.com’s “About us” section, explains what this Blog is about. “It is about Huber Heights Ohio and Teri Lussier’s take on this wacky place.”  She continues by stating how the Blog is also about the community, Real Estate and mostly about conversation. She invites me to pull up a chair and get involved. This certainly defines my criteria for why a consumer might go to a community Blog and why I, have have pulled my chair closer and began reading.   

From the onset, its abundantly clear, this Blogger can write. She’s not just keying in words. The piece “18 years today” was flawlessly written. In fact, so is every post. Disappointment ensued upon completion of the entire Blog wishing there was more. The few criticisms I had were: 1) The Categories list of topics were located at the very bottom of the Blog rather than the top. I can’t understand why so many of the other Project Blogger sites offer the Blogroll prior to the Blogs table of amazing contents. Granted “Appalachian History” is a cool Blog unto itself – so cool I found myself staying there for a while reading. Not sure that bodes well ultimately for Teri.

Looking down the list, I’m confused wondering how links to Bloodhound, Real Estate Sizzle, and Live in Los Gatos fulfills Teri’s mission statement  seen above. They take the reader off the site to other sites where some are clearly not in Teri’s league nor do they serve to enhance my Huber Heights experience. I know what a Blogroll is but does the average buyer or seller? Regardless, my point is, shouldn’t the Blogroll and the Links section go after the sites table of contents not before?

After reading every post I found myself heavily invested in Teri as a writer. I give her high marks for her range. From the piece on Popular Mechanics to the revitalization of Sydney Australia, this Blog covers wide and interesting ground. When I finished, I felt however, I still didn’t have a complete grasp of Huber Heights. I didn’t know about the different neighborhoods. I couldn’t get a handle on the schools, the local amenities, etc., Granted the Links section provided some coverage but here’s the thing: I don’t need a Blog to access municipal sites. I could easily Google all these places myself. Also, by linking out, you are stating to the reader that these are sites you believe in and trust as quality resources. But are they really? The link to Huber Height City Schools offered me a series of reports that never loaded such as the District Profile. 2 minutes went before I finally gave up waiting for the report to download. This is the problem with linking; you need to constantly police the sites you refer your readers too. I did click on all the links and frankly found none of them really enhanced my experience. What I really wanted was to stay on Teri’s Blog, stay in her headspace and get her take on everything. In this regard, Teri definitely won me over and I feel as time allows and as Teri spreads her attention over other areas, this Blog will become one of the best out there.

Nevertheless Teri gets high marks for this Blog and I put her in the top 5. I can tell there is a lot Teri has to say and with time she is going to say it and put it in a way that we are all going to want to read. 

***End UPDATE***

Tisza Major-Posner & Drew Meyers – Route 66 Living
To begin, judging Tizsa was difficult since I begin with a bias based on past experiences with her Blog. As it turns out, in researching articles I write for Inman, on more than one occasion Google searches for facts resulted in Route66 Living as a source. I remember telling my wife that I'm almost compelled to buy a home wherever this agent works just because of her Blog. So having said that, now I need to judge this on more than just that experience.

I like this Blog site. I love the simple features like the local weather at the top. I did notice however, how hot is was and thought what would enhance this feature is tips to "Things to do to keep cool in Claremont". I like the fact that the color palate is not Orange and Green. Tells me you are not a follower. I love the calendar of events. I think the Farmer's Market schedule is great but could use pictures, video and interviews with some of the local farmers. I would have found that to be really insightful and deeply engaging. Remember, Real People, Real Stories are so compelling these days.

You put Zillow on your site. Very ballsy. I think however, you ought to place more information on that section that explains in greater detail what a Zestimate is and how it's really only a first step in getting a CMA. Not everyone knows how inaccurate Zillow is. But I admire your attempt towards transparency.

Overall I think the categories are great and offer lots of info about Claremont. The pics are great, the restaurant stuff rocked (menu items, insight into their cooking) the only thing missing here was scratch and sniff! To me this Blog is all about Claremont and I came away as I did in my previous visits that Route66 Living is just that – life in Claremont written by someone deeply dedicated to that endeavor.

My "one" concern – is the link to the One Organization. This resonated with me as I am never without my white wristband or a U2 song playing either in the background or in my head. But I feel Blogs of this nature should remain non-political or encroach on anything that takes me, the reader outside my headspace of what I am here to do – embellish myself in info about Route66 Living. This is the only negative I have.

Mary Pope - Live in Los Gatos
This is a good Blog. I like the fact that Mary is not pretending to be a reporter. I like that she writes how I believes she speaks. No pretenses. No wannabe here. The headlines are straightforward, clear and not goofy. I love all the recent posts. Some where politically charged, I like they way they were handled. Others were of local interest and they compelled me despite my otherwise lack of interest in Los Gatos. After reading about the Skate Park Gaining support and local events, my interest in this community grew. My perspective widened. That is the point of a local Realtor Blog IMO.

I like the links section though some of the links I feel are irrelevant such as links to the Chamber of Commerce. This is a personal bias but I believe the more a Realtor turns me on to the less that obvious, secret places that only local know about, the more valuable that Realtor is. Links to Weather, Chambers and Newspaper...well that is so Genstar circa 1994.

The one thing that I didn’t get what the Recent Readers section. I clicked on these people and get taken out to some twilight Realtor zone. Where is the value in that? If there is a value there, it’s lost on me. This too plays into my Genstar reference. Genstar was one of the original agent website platforms. It was just a template where every link on that site linked the consumer away to some meaningless destination. That what this is. Agents, head this warning: Don’t turn a beautiful, progressive platform like a Blog into a agent centric maze of useless links. Write about your town, your neighborhoods. Stay focused. Mary, your Blog is called Live in Los Gatos. Stay focused on that. Keep me, the visitor, inside Los Gatos. Don’t distract me with links to Suzyq and her page with virtually nothing on it. Dead ends are no-no’s.

What would be cool is to have locals be on that list. Links to their comments. Their perspectives on Los Gatos.

Don’t get hung up on this. It’s a tiny smudge on an otherwise classy Blog. You are up there in the top 3. You have the makings of being number 1. Go for it.


Jackie Colson-Miller & Jim Cronin - The Real Estate Sizzle
From the onset, I liked the Blog name. It sounds cool. Feels established. Connects me to how I feel when I’m in Florida – sizzled. I like the layout but felt the real estate resources directory should be higher up on the page above “Where’s Jackie” and “Ask Jackie a Question”. The writing is good, the range of topics, wide. I like the “series” pieces. Gave a feeling that Jackie was a reporter on the beat. Closer inspection however, gave the impression the beat was Jackie centric rather than consumer centric. I felt the neighborhood coverage was a bit weak and would have been benefited by links to actual School Data when citing the “good schools” in the area so that her word was backed by “evidence”.

Elements like “My Library” Where’s Jackie” “Ask Jackie”, the numerous Pics of Jackie and the overall “Jackie Perspective” that came across in the articles placed too great an emphasis on Jackie. I cite such pieces as the “Bus Bench Advertisement which focused too much on how the marketing benefited her. What would have made this piece cool was how the bus bench advertising impacted your ability to get your sellers a faster sale at a higher price. That would have impressed me. The divorce tie-in derailed me as well. It took my mind away from my own personal concerns as a homebuyer or seller forcing me to ponder Jackie’s personal issues. My heart went out to her imagining the ordeal. But I don’t think that’s as a cool as using elements to make me, the client feel as if your heart pours out to me.

Personal elements like that belong in a special category. Not imbedded in an article.

I was disappointed in the Restaurant coverage which featured an eatery in France. I’m trying to buy a home in Tampa. I felt that was a plug about Jackie’s jet setting lifestyle than anything else which also came across in pieces like “Fun and Frolic” and “Where is Jackie Now”. As a reader I felt that if she were my listing agent, where Jackie should be is on the job rather than hob knobbing. There was too much emphasis on her life rather than what mine would be like unless of course Jackie hooks me up and bring me long. She seems like the type of person I’d enjoy hanging out with. That made me wonder how much cooler it would be if Jackie had a “Where are my clients now” component featuring video and interviews of clients and the places they ended up as a result of working with her.

I came away feeling as if Jackie’s heart and soul isn’t in Tampa, the reader or the client but rather an attempt to get the reader to invest in Jackie. Jackie, I think you are one of the few people that could actually pull this off. Your smart, attractive, worldly and classy. What I would recommend is to Change the Focus of Real Estate Sizzle and turn it into your centerpiece for your perspective on International Real Estate. Like the host of travel show. If you did that, the emphasis on you would work very well.

Finally, I totally loved the piece on “The “Fluffernutter.” Brought me right back to my childhood. Thanks for that.

Vali Wimberley & Teresa Boardman – Denverfresh
Cool name. Pleasant layout and color schema. Right away I got a bit confused from the first post. Greetings From St Paulasaurus. Who wrote this Blog and why? Why did this person switch places for a day? With whom did they switch? Why is there is post about Minnesota on a Denver Blog? I’m confused. My understanding is that I would have come upon this site either as someone looking to buy or perhaps sell in Denver. Hence my confusion.

Not sure I agree with putting links to Denver homes right there at the top of the page. Granted it takes me to your site, but people who access Blog sites are not necessarily and primarily looking to buy homes. Denver links also took me off the Blog and away from your sphere. Gave me the impression you’re more about referring me out to places rather than being the resource. Raises the question why is your categories list below the Blog link rather than above them? Granted your coach may have their own opinion but as a consumer hitting your Blog, I want to stay here and read what you have to say. If I want links out, I’ll Google Denver.

All in all my advice would be write less about Denver as a city and focus more on neighborhoods. Get granular. Where do you eat dinner out? Where do you go to ice skating? Granted there is a line between being too self oriented and offering the reader a look into your communities through your eyes. I think you can get closer to that line.

I noticed links to Project Blogger. I found this on some of the other Blogs. Why? Seems a bit too “inside” for me as a consumer. My concern is this: Linking the consumer to Active Rain exposes a certain inside look into real estate that might confuse the consumer. Like right now I am reading some blogs on Active Rain and I’m thinking this is not the pretty side of Real Estate, why are you exposing consumers to it? I don’t get the point. If there is a good point, make that clear on your Bog why you link people off to other Bloggers outside the area.

Kevin Tomlinson & Ardell DellaLoggia – SouthBeach Real Estate Blog
My initial reaction was I love this site. I love the focus. South Beach Condo Blog. It’s not 2.0. It’s not 3.0. It’s 10.0 meaning right on target. It succinct and defined. Not all over the place.

But I started going through it. It scrolled down forever. Like a bottomless pit. Granted if more bottomless pits had jpegs of Brooke Hogan, falling through them might not be a bad venture. Below that, I finally gave up. The choppy insertion of jpegs made reading the blog really difficult.

I scrolled back up to the top of the site and clicked on Search Blog Archives. It wasn’t hyperlinked. False alarm. Below was “Start Search Here”. I found one article “How Consumers Use Real Estate Blogs. But there was no copy. Then I clicked on the headline. The article appeared. It was about how readers of blogs should read a blog. And I’m thinking I’m reading a blog about how to read a blog on a blog site about Condos in South Beach. That’s when I tuned out.

I moused around a bit more, and after a few minutes I felt this site was Paris Hilton. Gorgeous on the outside, zilch on the inside. Style, yes. Substance and results? I couldn’t find focus on it. Other than the home page and miles long scroll down of content, there was no directory that felt useful to me as a potential buyer or seller. But...I think there’s a ton of potential here. You aren’t getting my vote as the best today. But I have a feeling with more time and coaching this young man is going to have a killer Blog.


Kelly Kilpatrick & Joel Burslem - Rancho Satan Margarita Lifestyles
I like the look of this site. It has the Blog meets newspaper vibe to it. But as far as vibe goes, that’s where it began and ended. While I liked the fact that is was very “market stat” oriented, market stats only go so far with me. After a while, graphs, charts and numbers are just that. They aren’t personal. When I buy a home, I don’t move into a chart or live next door to a graph.

I felt the site lacked substance and soul. It read like newspaper without the gift of good journalism. Though Kelly got personal at times, I had a hard time relating to her POV. The “Homeless” piece came across as somewhat naïve and addressed the Homeless issue from an unusual perspective. I felt Kelly had something important to say but it didn’t come out right. More importantly, socio-political, issues are a tough nut for any journalist to crack. My advice here Kelly is when doing a piece like this you’re best served by leaving your opinions out and replacing them with a cross section of opinions from others. It widens the scope of your coverage and makes you look like you really delved into a issue rather than approaching it with a drive-by perspective and jump to conclusion insight.

Many of the other posts also felt very surfaced scratched only. The blogs seemed written for the sake of being written. The Fire Safety Blog was long and put me on alert rather than educated me. I suppose all in all, the Blog turned me off Orange County. Between fires, scary homeless people, and corrupt superintendents, this blog felt more like a personal soap box than a conduit for a buyer or seller to fall in love with the OC.

Where are stories about glorious sunsets. About homes with amazing landscaping. About people with wide points of view and an accepting cultural mix. How about a happy YouTube interview with a client who talks about how working with you changed their life. Where are reviews of restaurants. Info about the Music Scene? Girls in Bikinis? This is the OC isn’t it?

All in all I felt this Blog was really by the numbers. One again I cite the Blogroll. I ask myself why would an agent in the OC, trying to sell homes in the OC, have links to the Future of Real Estate Technology, Bloodhound or the Ubertor Real Estate Blog. They lead me off your site for no reason.

Kelly, I’m sure I’ve drawn some very wrong conclusions about you but this is what I have been tasked to do. Judge. I don’t know you so please do not take this personally. I think Blogs are meant to create a bridge between stranger/visitor and stranger/Blogger. In this case the bridge is drawn up.

Ines Hegedus Garcia & Paul Chaney - Miamiism
I had a difficult time getting into this Blog. I cannot put my finger on why exactly. I find the color unappealing and considering so much of what real estate is about is curb appeal, I felt this layout and color schema needs a Jenny Jones makeover. Especially considering this is a Miami based Blog. Spring for a better picture of Miami in header. Green is the new Grey. Miami is a spicy, hot, sweaty bowl of cultural con carne. Sexy. Exciting. I feel this Blog should exude that.

The title story did not capture my attention. The second story about Fisher Island, the exclusive, private haven for the privileged, accessible only by Helicopter, didn’t really connect with the coach traveler in me. The Hurricane story wasn’t really warm and inviting. The Fathers day article ... Well, this should explain why I have trouble with this Blog. I am a homebuyer looking to move to Miami. That is the perspective I judge from. I don’t see how a story about a Realtor’s dad and his fight with cancer embellished by graphic descriptions that includes colon removal and brutal chemo treatments can put me in the mood to buy a home and indulge myself in the frivolities of Miami’s lifestyle. I certainly can’t imagine bothering that Realtor with my shallow needs at a time like this.

The Blog is called Miamism. Stay inside that premise. I felt this Blogger used a personal tragedy as away to lure me in. I could be wrong, it’s just how it came off the page. Realtors who Blog might want to keep in mind that using a Blog to detail this type of tragic personal issue could make readers overly sympathetic and uncomfortable enough to not actually utilize the Realtor in an effective way. Harsh, perhaps. But true? You be the judge. Next time you go and buy a $1,000,000 anything, see how effective that sales person personal tragedy story affects your emotions.

The Menu of the Site left me perplexed. I view links and the order in which they appear on the site as listed in order of priority. Therefore, I scratch my head at why Project Blogger is the number 1 link. As a potential client how does your amateur blogging contest benefit me? The rest of the links, View my listings, Search MLS, Mortgage Calc...is this a Blog or a Realtor Website? Local info has no local info, but rather links to Local News and Weather. As a web surfer, I question whether a Blog should connect me with prominent web destinations I can find on my own. Local secrets ...way cooler. Far more valuable. Didn’t see any.

Moving down the list I click on Strategic Blogging Systems and that takes to a Paul Chaney’s Site. Why? In fact all those links take me to sites that have no Miami frame of reference whatsoever. I am so confused by this Blog. Remember, I am not judging this by how well Google picks you up. If a Google search results in this Blog at the top of the results page, and I click here, have I really benefited? If not, have you?

 

83 Comments on Project Blogger -- Week 10 Judging Results

JUN
21
2007
Umm. Hmm. Did my blog stink that badly that it isn't included in the critique? hit me man, I can take it! :)
8:34pm • #1
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Marc, Interesting view of these blogs. I think you were fairly unbiased. BTW, for Route 66 Living  with Drew being from Zillow, I thought it was only natural to have the link on the site.
8:36pm • #2
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Marc - constructive criticism is what we are all looking for - thank you.  I have definitely learned something from your critique and a lot of those points we were already working on - we might disagree on what's sexy and exiting, but no need to go into detail here.
8:57pm • #3
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"Umm. Hmm. Did my blog stink that badly that it isn't included in the critique? hit me man, I can take it! :)"

GRRR!  I can only be mad at myself for this.  I am sorry, I'll see what I can do! 

9:22pm • #4
Caleb- i appreciate you looking into this, but after reading the critiques more thoroughly, it's probably best I don't know what he thinks. :-D
9:35pm • #5
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Caleb, interesting post... I'm learning from your critique about what the consumers are looking for.  THANKS for taking the time to give such thoughtful feedback.
11:03pm • #7
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I really like the realism and honesty of this week's judging. With so many sites and blogs out there, we often only have a few seconds to make a favorable first impression and just a few more while the reader determines whether or not to stay.

Many of Marc's suggestions are easily implemented. Underneath what may initially seem blunt and harsh, I think there is genuine encouragement. And the Paris Hilton line - priceless!

11:05pm • #8
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Marc... this was certainly a completely different take on the judging responsibility. Thanks for the thorough review. I appreciate it. 
11:38pm • #9
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22
2007
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Good review, and helpful learnings for us bloggers who are not part of the contest.

Jeff

1:39am • #10
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We're just laughing now, Teri.  We're all going to laugh about this when it is all over.

1:53am • #11
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Hi Marc & Caleb,

Thank you for the valuable, useful and constructive criticism and the compliments as well.  It was an eye opener for me to think that my site is actually a resource for someone else.  Reading that was a real "wow" moment and I sincerely thank you for that.

I learned something not just from your critique of my site but from your critiques of everyone else's sites as well.  I also truly appreciated your evenhandedness in evaluating all of our efforts.  I do not envy you that task, our blogs are as different as the people who created them and finding a way to fairly compare one to the other is truly an achievement.

You also gave me some great ideas for future blog posts.  Thanks.  I am sure you can relate to this, there are times when you stare at that screen and all you hear in your head is a hum, thank you for putting some worthwhile words in there. 

Let me know when you and your wife are in my neck of the woods.  If you like what you have seen on Route66Living.com, you will love what you find when you are actually here!

Once again, for myself and my wonderful coach Drew Meyer's, I say Thank You from the bottom of my heart :-)

Take care, help lots of people and have a wonderful day!

Tisza

2:12am • #12
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Interesting...I thought the weekly judging was about the "WEEK"...this was my week...nothing about bus benches here...neighborhoods, architecture, tax reform, ....not sure how tax reform is all about "me"...

6/15 Hunter's Green...A Golf Course Community in New Tampa
6/15 Property Tax Reform Passed by the Senate...Will The Voters Agree?
6/14 The Miami Biltmore Hotel...A Fabulous Tribute to Florida Architecture
6/13 Fluff goes in my Fluffernutter, Not on My Blog
6/12 Special Session for Tax Reform Begins Today
6/11 School's Out...My Best Family Vacation Ideas!

Thank God for the hundreds of people who LIKE my blog every day....that's my target...I need to just stop reading this stuff...

Sorry for your omission Teri....maybe you're the lucky one after all...

7:51am • #13

Ardell- I have a good sense of humor, and I am laughing about this. What else can you do?

>I need to just stop reading this stuff... 
>Teri....maybe you're the lucky one after all...

Jackie- I'm with you. Caleb was kind enough to call me to apologize about this, but by then I had read the other reviews. Yikes! I'd be skewered. ;)

8:47am • #14
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Marc--

The post on how Consumers Use Blogs was not for judging last week.  It was a post for week 11.  Maybe if you would have paid a bit more attention to the dates right infront of you and not 'tuned out' you could have done the job of judging week 10 more responsibly.  This is my problem with the judging so far.  Everyone is all over the board and the judges don't even KNOW what they are looking at.

This may be harsh but it is true.  Who's Paris Hilton now?

9:55am • #15
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Marc--

The post on how Consumers Use Blogs was not for judging last week.  It was a post for week 11.  Maybe if you would have paid a bit more attention to the dates right infront of you and not 'tuned out' you could have done the job of judging week 10 more responsibly.  This is my problem with the judging so far.  Everyone is all over the board and the judges don't even KNOW what they are looking at.

This may be harsh but it is true.  Who's Paris Hilton now?

9:55am • #16
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Caleb

Everybody is starting to tune out, have you noticed?

9:58am • #17
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John Novak--

 

Did you read my response to Marc?  He was reviewing a post for this week's competition, not last week's competition.  You must be Nicole Richie?  Here is my feeling on the judging so far.

Simple things said by stupid people make simple people laugh.

10:03am • #18
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This is crazy....

How can one say a piece on 'Fluffernutter' would gain readership AND clients.  Where did this guy come from?  Is he is the real estate BUSINESS?  Oh I see, another person trying to sell realtors something.

 

CALEB- CAN YOU PLEASE GET A PERSON WHO SELLS REAL ESTATE TO BE A JUDGE?

 

 

10:18am • #19
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Let's get Laurie Manny to judge a week!!

 

10:30am • #20
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:) I see once again the judges get judged as much as the contestants do.  For those that are confused about the Week Issue...Marc chose to go in and judge the whole blog and go beyond the posts, so he looked through more stories than were posted for the week.  He did spend a lot of time on these and whether you agree with any of them or not, I think there's a lot to be gained from the insights of all the judges.
10:49am • #21
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Yes, Caleb

But if it is a competition we have to play with the rules as set forth!!!!!  You guys have to get it together.

 

We are in a competition to win.  STAY WITH THE RULES.  Or why have them?  Then the points do not matter right?  Because after this week's competition the voting is SKEWED.  So to be completely fair, the judges in the end have to look at the blog overall as a finished piece.  That is the only way to be fair, now.

No one would be judging the judge if he would have followed the rules....it's that simple

10:56am • #22

Caleb,

I totally agree that the Judges are to be thanked for their time, and I personally liked this Judge's perspective.  I love "consumer" perspective.  But often consumer perspective can't relate to all marketplaces equally. 

I absolutely agree that this Judge did a fabulous job from a consumer perspective.  But I also agree that the chart should not RULE.  I think at the end, a panel of 3-5 Judges should review the 14 week judging results and have "over-ride" power based on the "end blog result" :)  Or maybe a final judging by the panel, based on the blogs as they exist in their entirety at the end, with the points being more heavily weited.  Say winner of Final Judging gets 500 points, second place 400 points.  Something like that.

There should be some recognition of the end product. and a mix of judges for the Final Round of Judging.  14 weeks of Judges plus a 15th Judging of end product with higher points for that round, might cover it all.

But that doesn't solve Teri's problem of being left out altogether this week.  You'll have to figure that one out. 

 

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Oops.  Wasn't logged in there.  Above comment is mine.
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I agree with ARDELL about the judges, but it's not like they are going to IRAQ.  They offered to judge a competition and this week happened to be a mess.  The mistakes have to default to someone.  He loves fluffernutter, what can I say?
11:09am • #25
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Caleb

In reading more of the comments, this weeks judge 'dings' blogs for having a place to search for properties, last week's judge Jessica penalized me for not having one.......

11:17am • #26
On a personal note: I am completely offended and shocked by the lack of
compassion for the Miamism.com story about cancer.  It is truly
abominable to me to say Ines is using sympathy to garner or dissuade
clients.  What you may not know, not being a Floridian, is that the
average age of Floridians is higher than most other states and most
older people do deal with these kinds of issues and may want a Realtor
that is compassionate to them.
My personal opinion form the beginning of this contest, is that the way
you are judging it by subjective criteria is ridiculous.  Blogs ought to
be judged on concrete metrics like backlinks, SERP, traffic, leads,
comments, etc. The performance related criteria the rest of the
technical world would judge a blog on.
Mary McKnight
1:07pm • #27
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Kevin - I read both of your responses to Marc. When I said "And the Paris Hilton line - priceless!", I was referring to Marc's choice of metaphor only, not you or your blog.

Jonathan's original Project Blogger post does not specify which apprentice posts (current week or entire blog) will be judged. However one of the criteria is "Improvement/progress of the apprentice" which cannot be gauged by looking at just one week's work. Other criteria that I've never seen mentioned in judging are "The apprentice's community involvement" and "Traffic or reach."

I've noticed that you and Ardell have strong feelings about scoring and 'the chart'. My comment on one of Ardell's posts was deleted; here's what I said:

"There is nothing wrong with the scoring chart. It is cumulative, it does not average scores. This is really similar to a race - some people are quick out of the blocks, others run at a steady pace, and some have strong finishes.

Through nine weeks, the top four are Mary, Tisza, Jackie and Kelly. If you throw out the first four weeks scores, the top four are Tisza, Mary, Jackie and Kelly. If you go by only the last three weeks, the top four are Mary, Tisza, Jackie and Kelly.

As others have mentioned, and I agree with, the scoring isn't what's important. It's what they learn along the way and how much they improve, and how they implement this into the future of their businesses."

2:26pm • #28
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Ouch. I guess my site is bad enough to warrant the title Rancho "Satan" Margarita Lifestyles? Definitely a winning combo. Thank you for taking the time for this evaluation.

2:27pm • #29
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John

Unfortunately it has to matter because this is a competition, plain and simple.  We have been told many times that judging for the week ends on Sunday night.  Believe me, it is not fair for one judge to take away points one week for something and give points for the exact same thing the next.  It is called moving target.

 

Apprentices?

 

If the judging was going to 'change' this week, we should have been informed of the change.

2:33pm • #30
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Hi All,

Kelly - Well, that sure clears up something I had been wondering - Why everything down in your area is always priced at $666,000 LOL.  I like Rancho SANTA Margarita Lifestyles!  Actually, I enjoy reading all the blogs that have been created during this competition.  They are all little windows into who we are, what is important to us and how we differ both as individuals and as agents.

If I were not an agent myself I would hire any one of us to do the job.  Since I am an agent I hope to be able to refer business to each and every one of us... soon!

Take care all, help lots of people and have a wonderful day!

Tisza

3:02pm • #31
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My "fluffernutter" piece was a total spoof about how the judges love the "fluff" that other apprentices seem to write about ...and that's not my "thing"...My attempt at getting resolution to the tax mess in Florida gets lost in the judging blogosphere...It must be because I'm "vacationing" somewhere ....
3:50pm • #32
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Hey JCM,

Yeah I know what you mean.  It's so back and forth.  Remember 'your blog is all about Jackie' too.

Yeah this whole competition is really based on fluff.  The judges love fluff and non real estate related stuff.

 

3:54pm • #33
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This contest has become the biggest joke in the blog-o-sphere.  I just wasted valuable time reading the absolute crap in this post.  Being one of the few members of Active Rain that have actually been voting, I can say, you just lost me too.  I won't be part of something that has so obviously become a private club and has so obviously been weighted in the so very wrong direction. 

Quite frankly what I am saying, is that this is a lot of crap! 

6:49pm • #34
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Yes, Kevin...and you are so "Paris Hilton"...where do they get these judges??? Can we get an East Coast judge? I'm going to raise the $2500 for charity on my blog this week....
6:50pm • #35
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Ines is too much of a lady to tell you that after ripping her blog apart, he tried to sell her his services.  A$$hole should be disqualified as a judge!

 

I call em as I see em! 

6:53pm • #36
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Laurie

 

That is why I like you.  Me too!  I've been getting shade for not pandering.  I have been fortunate, I have learned a lot---I admire & respect ARDELL, she is now a friend.  I follow and respect Laurie.....  Other than that, not much else.

I said it first.  I said it first!  He called me Paris Hilton and then liked JCM's 'fluffernutter' post.

I can tell Laurie's from the east coast. 

7:04pm • #37
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I'm so shocked and furious that he tried to 'help' Ines, I could burst.  I was burning all day about this crap and then to read this reinforces the fact that my gut feeling was right.  I have been talking about the 'integrity' of this competition for the last few weeks but the west coast people were too busy drinking green tea and telling me that it is not about points or winning.

Thanks Laurie for validating my thoughts.

7:07pm • #38
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Okay..apprentices..only one of us can "win"...here's the challenge...Let's all try to raise the same $2500 for charity outside of the contest....We've all done a great job with our blogs, so it's not about "us" anymore...let's raise some $$$...who's up for THAT challenge???
8:04pm • #39
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JCM.

What are your thoughts?

 

Ines, I'm totally annoyed with you that you didn't out the guy for trying to help you by selling you something.  I'm in here literally swimming upstream trying to get people to see what is REALLY going on.

You should have come forward.  It wouldn't be unladylike to do so.  It would be doing the right thing.

8:46pm • #40

ARRRRGH!!!!!

Mutiny! Let's mutiny! There are more of us than them. Oh listen to me. Us vs Them. lol

Jackie- let's do this. Let's apprentices join forces and raise money on our own. That is the best idea to be sprouted from this contest. But only if it's not a contest. Do tell us what you have in mind?

Kevin, I'm glad you brought up the sales issue with this judge, because that didn't sit well with me either.

9:14pm • #41
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Hey guys, I go off for a couple of hours and look what I find!!

I never spoke to Marc directly - I was told when the post was up that the judge, eventhough he had been very harsh, was offering his consulting services to improve my site.

9:15pm • #42

>was offering his consulting services to improve my site.

That's generous.

9:20pm • #43
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I like the idea of raising money - but I do need a break from the whole competition thing. 
9:28pm • #44
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Ines,

I feel so bad for you. To be so ripped apart and then to be offered his services....amazing.

 

I'm sure no one at AR or Inman will see this.  If I was one of the sponsors, I would be mortified.

9:31pm • #45
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Did you hear that Paris Hilton is making $43K per day being in the slammer.  Maybe I should have taken that as a compliment. 
9:56pm • #46
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Learn something people.  The judges who "wrote" what they thought at length, were not as "appreciated" as those who wrote 1) 2) 3) succinctly.  The old "I like this, You should improve on that, and move in this direction.  Simple three step evaluations.

Learn to blog, like your favorite judges wrote their blog post.

10:01pm • #47
One of the challenges of structuring the judging for a blogging competition like this is that it is nearly impossible to measure a blog on "concrete metrics such as backlinks, SERP, traffic, leads, comments, etc. The performance-related criteria the rest of the technical world would judge a blog on." as Mary suggests above.

While performance criteria may be parts in a whole, they are not together the sum of the whole. Great blogging consists of much more than performance critieria (however important these criteria may be). 

Judging a blogging contest is more like judging a singing contest than a NASCAR race; one singer may hit all of the right notes perfectly in a song, but fail completely at connecting with the audience. This is the reason why we structured the contest giving the judges so much latitude.

Project Blogger itself is a "journey" exploring and seeking to capture the heart of successful blogging, which is not an exact science. The widely varying strategies among blogging experts attests to this. Quite possibly, at the end of the day, the "best" blogging team may not come out on top, depending on how one defines "best". It is for this reason that successful participation as a Project Blogger Apprentice should not be measured merely in terms of if he or she who comes out in first place. The overwhelming rewards of Project Blogger in fact have nothing to do with ranking whatsoever. To the contrary, they are defined in terms of improved real estate strategies, refined and captivating blogging know-how, greater breathe of perspective, and the list goes on. Coaches likewise benefit from increased exposure and new strategies mastered in the Project Blogger "incubator". The amount to be learned or gained is limited only by the perspective taken. (Similar to college, some people study for a degree, while others study for knowledge and gain a degree as a secondary benefit).

Most especially, coaches and apprentices grace us (the greater blogging community) through sharing their experiences, their successes, and setbacks through Project Blogger. In this, ActiveRain becomes a learning organization; the brainstorming and creativity and wealth of knowledge gained is not limited to participants but shared with all. And that is at the heart of what blogging is all about.

(and yes Kevin, someone from AR has seen this thread. ;) )
10:36pm • #48
I had some technical problems leaving that last comment. I hope no one got too confused with the email notifications.  "The root of the problem was between the keyboard and the chair", as they say in technical support departments.
10:55pm • #49
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Wow Jonathan....

It took Laurie Manny to call you out!  Love a girl with a big set!

11:07pm • #50
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Boy, this is more entertaining than "Top Chef" or "Project Runway!" I can't imagine how things will be like at the Connect!....
3:45am • #51
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Well Rich, I am hoping the air smells better in San Francisco, smells like low tide in here.
4:13am • #52
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Laurie,

"he tried to sell her his services."

I'm the one spoke to Marc.  He never offered to sell any services.  As I told Ines, Marc offered up his services for free.

8:17am • #54
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So a JUDGE is helping out an apprentice?  Wow---Caleb--the hole is getting deeper.

 

This so reminds me of the Paris Hilton/Lee Baca scenario, no?

10:43am • #55
Guys,

These comments were brought to my attention. Wow, what a colorful bunch you all are. I was asked, without much notice to volunteer my services to read the blogs and rate them. Why? Maybe it’s because the good people of Active Rain recognize my credentials as schooled, educated, entrepreneur who has, over the years, built businesses and products that have helped make Realtors millions of new dollars in commissions. Maybe they recognized a person who would find time in his busy schedule to offer insight and assistance to young Bloggers just starting out. Maybe they recognized that I could step in and do this big task at a moments notice despite the fact that there would be no, and I mean not one iota of gain for me. I don’t sell or provide any services to any of you here. I was asked to step up and I did. 


There was no rule book Kevin. I was told to go read the Blogs and judge them.  So you can understand my disdain in reading many of your posts regarding my inability to read rules or wondering where I come from. With all due respect, I’m just a person who came upon your Blogs, read them and wrote how they made me feel. What you got was a truthful critique from a reader. No bias, attack or any agenda.  

I devoted about 2 hours per Blog. Most required it. Kevin sadly, yours did not.  If I misunderstood my task, I’ll take my hits from the Active Rain people. I will take it like a man. What I found disturbing here was the personal attacks on my and the Active Rain People.  Is that how you take criticism? How are you ever going to grow and get better? Why be in a contest and put yourselves out there for judging?

As for Ines, I wrote what felt. I told Caleb I feel horrible for her and her personal tragedy. I also feel taking a potential consumer down that rod is a very risky move. Call me crazy for that. My offer to assist her was no the judge in me speaking. It was the human being in me. Criticize the judge all you want, I’m not the one trying to build a real estate business. I know where my heart was on that offer.

My reference to Kelly's Blog and misspelled word (Santa) was just that - a misspelled word. In an effort to do this for Active Rain, I squeezed in the judging in one 12-hour time period before leaving for a holiday. I did the best I could to edit but not good enough I suppose. I told Caleb, my eyes were weary by the time I was done. I am truly sorry for that and would hope the Active Rain people would edit that for me.

It is truly unfortunate that many of you reacted the way you did. You’re angry? You have two choices, make fun of me on Active Rain which won’t make you a better Blogger or prove me wrong and take your blogs up a notch. 

I praised the blogs that I felt hit the mark, offered my insights and criticized what I felt needed to be criticized. I left Teri’s Blog out because I ran out of time. But I wrote one up while away now on vacation. I’m sure some of you might find fault in that. Go for it. For the record, she’s the best writer of the bunch.

 


   

 

Marc Davison
4:16pm • #56
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I was recruited into Real Estate because of my "fundraising" skills.  If it weren't for the charity dollars here, I would have bagged this contest long ago when the rules went out the window, but I committed for the sake of the charity. 

Project blogger really only matters to those of us that are involved...that's my opinion.  But, if it's about raising money, then let's use our blogging skills for that purpose.  We are reaching hundreds of people each week...so let's put our mouths to work for a good cause.  I am NOT proposing a contest of any sort. What if we each choose a goal...$2500, or whatever is reasonable for you...and let our readers know that we are using our voices, not only to inform and educate, but to raise money for charities as well. 

I am going to raise the monies for KW Cares...the Keller Williams charity.  My audience can choose from any number of local charities that we support, so they can designate the funds.  I will put some type of widget on my blog with a running tally of the funds that I raise. I am definitely going to work on it this week, and I think it would be a positive outcome from Project Blogger, for all of us, if we each did something in our own way.

That hacker on my site this week really unnerved me and, yes, I do think it was contest-related and AR-related. So, my perspective about it all has changed. When Project Blogger is over, we will all still be blogging and continuing to improve on what we have all learned, and all the pettiness will be a distant memory.  Let's get together on this and make some really positive things happen because we CAN.  I believe that everything happens for a reason. We are all in Project Blogger for a reason...maybe we are all wondering WHAT that reason is right now, but we are reaching a huge  audience so I think we have a mission  to make a difference in some lives beyond our own....

That's my thought....

4:24pm • #57
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Marc - I for one want to say a HUGE "THANK YOU!" for your time and willingness to participate and judge this past week of Project Blogger. For the majority of ActiveRain members, we apologize that you've been unduly criticized for simply offering up your professional opinon/analysis. Please don't allow these few 'colorful' people to influence your perception of the greater collective membership. Again, thank you for taking time out of your busy schedule to help out with judging.
6:13pm • #58
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Marc,

Thanks for your time.  New blogger I am, new agent I ain't!  I have made MILLIONS by myself by working hard. MILLIONS.

I got into blogging because I always know, instinctively, what is 'next'.  I know blogging is it.  I was destitute when I got into real estate, I couldn't pay my electricity bill!  When I started in real estate, there wasn't anyone to teach me except for the "school of hard knocks" and I figured it out very well.

I know that I don't know it all and I DO appreciate the input and everyone's time. There is one thing that I do know about blogging though:  It AIN'T rocket science.  If I can master real estate this will be a piece of cake.

We are ALL super busy: the coaches, the judges AND the apprentices.  We are ALL in the same boat.

8:50pm • #59
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I'm writing this while away and have only very limited time on the web. I have not read all of the comments above so pardon me if any of my notes here are redundant.

Forgive me for being negative, but I find this critique the least helpful one I have seen to date, and the one that is "least connected" to the contest as a whole. Did this judge ever read any of the past critiques?   What upset me in terms of my own blog is that last week's judge told me to add local links. I did. This week's judge dinged me for it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  I'm sorry, but this just angers me. I only put in links to the town of LG and to the chamber of commerce because the judge last week said I needed more local links.

And you know, I'd have felt that the judge actually read my blog if he'd managed to get my name right. As it is, my impression is that this judge did not spend too much time or take this job too seriously.
12:32am • #60
Marc- I appreciate your explanation. I've already learned quite a bit from this week's judging. Any idea when I'll be getting my critique?
10:24am • #61

Having raised this very concern (that the contest will be judged on subjective criteria by industry insiders with  clear biases) during the steering committee meeting for this contest, I am in agreement with Laurie.  This contest has become a popularity contest and detracts from the purpose of the blog in the first place. 

Why don't you people start augmenting your results with some real metrics on each of these blogs like:

 

<!--[if !supportLists]-->a.       <!--[endif]-->Change in Alexa traffic

<!--[if !supportLists]-->b.      <!--[endif]-->Change in backlinks

<!--[if !supportLists]-->c.       <!--[endif]-->Technorati rankings

<!--[if !supportLists]-->d.      <!--[endif]-->Pages indexed in Google’s primary index 

Or finding a "test" group of real estate consumers that have never read a RE blog before to judge it based on your subjective criteria.

 

Mary McKnight
10:26am • #62
FYI: the "impossible" task of rating this contest on real metrics could have been done with Google Analytics, Yahoo/MSN backlink counts, iwebtool, etc.  There are tons of free tools that allow you track real metrics for websites that would have helped this contest.
Mary McKnight
10:33am • #63
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Mary I think if you only judged the blogs on traffic it would be a gross mistake. Target markets will naturally have a smaller draw but a larger conversion ratio than non-targeted blogs (which will have a larger pool of readers but probably much smaller conversion rates). I can see where you'd want to factor in the traffic as a portion of the overall grading, but I would not want it to be any more than the "voting" points, for instance.

I don't see popularity as the issue on the blogs with the highest scores. I do think the ones with the highest scores are the ones that POST the most, though. (My own bias is that it's better to be a frequent poster than one with few articles that are all significant.)

What I see as the main issues that AR will want to resolve before launching the next PB type contest are these:

(1) inconsistency in judging criteria from week to week (again, folks change their blogs in response to the suggestions of one judge only to be punished for those same changes by a later judge who either disagrees with the earlier advice or was oblivious to it). Solution: a panel of judges that will go from start to finish, with the grade from each week being a consensus of the panel.


(2) scoring that is not easily measureable for the various aspects of the blogs to be graded (visual appeal/confusion/business being a possible area, improvement, consistency of postings etc.). Next time it would be great to have a "scorecard" with areas to judge and then tally them... Then bloggers would know, concretely, what needs fixing or not.

(3) length of contest: 14 weeks is too long. Could we do this in 4? 6? 8? I don't think it needs to go beyond 8 and I don't think the judges would want to be doing this longer than that anyway.

(4) who's a winner? I think here I would make it more than just the scoreboard, and I would also make it be more than one "winner". I would suggest that anyone who posts 2-3 times a week for the whole contest, who makes apparent improvements to his or her blogs (or creates them, as we've also seen here) would be a winner of sorts.

Guess I should have made this a separate post....

Mary

11:45am • #64
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Mary - yes, a panel of judges, similar to "Top Chef" or 'Project Runway' might have made for a more consistent concensus.
12:34pm • #65
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Thanks Mary.

You've said everything I have been trying to say.  You can say this stuff without being labeled as a whiner or brat because you are in the lead.  Thanks!!!

 

 

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Caleb - I'm glad you jumped in here to clear things up - as I said before, I never spoke to Marc.  I do appreciate all the judges that have volunteered their time and for taking a beating so well.  I do agree with Kevin about thanking all the coaches and apprentices as well - I know we are all extremely busy and this whole competition has taken a toll on us. 

As for the piece of my dad, it has been removed.....I have learned something from Ardell and that is that some people may misinterpret my intent, and although the intent is completely different, I will abstain from writing pieces like that (LESSON LEARNED......thank you!)

One thing I do want to make clear here - I am not a charity case.  I am in the great hands of Paul Chaney and RSS Pieces, and not to mention others that I trust who have offered to help. 

I feel like I have been penalized from the beginning for different things and since this is a public forum, I will take the time to explain.  First I came into the competition the last possible minute and I was promised a site in a week and five weeks later it was not finished (THAT COULD HAVE BEEN MY MISTAKE....but that's water under the bridge).

RSS Pieces took over and redesigned a site in 3 days!  and from then on have been working out the kinks....and very efficiently, I may add. 

There is a double standard that I see with the judging that I don't understand and would like to and maybe Marc can expand.  Julie talks about her cancer experiences and does it well - but my story about my dad (although removed) was not done well.  Would that be because it appeared on the home page when you looked at the blog?  It would not have remained there and would have also been "compartmentalized", as you so well put it.

Since this has turned into a book, all I can ask is for the judges to do their job without being "rushed", after 12 hours of being rushed, I would have given even myself a really negative critique.  We all have full-time jobs, families, problems.....

We have all come a long way and we all have a LOT to learn (judges and coaches included), let's finish this competition with our heads high and recognize what we have achieved.

Oh, and it would be nice for each judge to know what the concept behind each blog is so they understand each apprentice's goals and intents - i.e. my site is a hybrid REAL ESTATE SITE/BLOG (very consciously done)

2:47pm • #67
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Ines

I love your site.  Marc should know that the 'new wave' of blogs ARE 'hybrids' or 'mashups'.  There should have been the same judges all the way through so they could 'get' what we are doing.  Nobody knows it ALL. 

3:13pm • #68
Let's use our blogs to reach our readers...I raised $700 for KW Cares this weekend, just by word of mouth...I do admit, I have a big mouth....now I am shooting for $5000 this week....
Jackie Colson-Miller
6:05pm • #69
As a very experienced agent, I would NEVER put Zillow on my blog, or promote it...it it too innacurate...why are we giving it kudos?
Jackie Colson-Miller
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Ines: I love your site. I had not realized the switch to RSS pieces. I felt bad that you did not have another blog for so much of the competition.  

I read the entry about your father and did not ascribe any ulterior motives.  I found it touching. It was written for Fathers Day for petes sake, wasn't it? 

  

 

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Maureen - LOL!  and THANKS....yes it was writen for father's day and there were no ulterior motives, but we do need to listen to the consumer (unless is the type of consumer we choose not to do business with).
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A note to everyone reading this article. It was featured in Active Rain's Week in Review 6/18/07---6/24/07

This post was one of the Top 25 picks for the week! Congratulations and thanks for writing a great blog!

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Maureen I totally agree with you about Ines blog being super and also about her Father's Day piece being appropriate for the day. (Another judge would have said, "your blog isn't personal enough" without it).

You know what would be interesting, would be to have everyone who's participating in PB to do a review of each other (I know, it would take a lot of time). It could be the  "three comment format" that we seem to like (keep doing, don't do, possible suggestion type of format). I can see Kevin's on mine now "drop the ghosts" LOL...
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Mary - I think that's a great idea - let's see how many apprentices want to do this and let's run with it.
12:08pm • #75
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Hi Mary & Ines,

If you guys want to try this, might I suggest that you make it a separate post and then throw it up the PB flagpole and see who salutes LOL!

I think I might just be reviewed out, but it could be interesting and enlightening or it could start WWIII and I like my guts just where they are, thank you :-)

But write it up on its own so the idea doesn't get buried and if most of us agree to do it I would be in as well.

Take care, help lots of people and have a wonderful day!

Tisza

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Please do not look at every judge's critique as the word of god.  These judges are all genuinely doing their best to offer you feed back.  Coaches and Apprentices should take from it what will benefit them, but never should you completely change something with the intent to please someone else's ideal.

Kevin it's been explained before that we've gone away from the original judging criteria set forth.  The marks are issued based upon the judges unique perspectives.  While that means things have been varied, you shouldn't really be writing to please some judges.  The varied perspectives are valuable in that they've brought up different points.

I  would hope that everyone involved is gaining from this.  The teams are to be commended for putting themselves out there, but in turn I would say that the judges deserve their Kudos.  It's not easy to publicly critique people like this.  That being said 14 weeks is a long time to hold yourself out there.  Too long in my opinion.  This contest has been quite an endeavor.

Mary P is right in saying that a panel is a good idea.  We've actually if you think about  it created that panel, only it's spanned a 14 week contest with multiple performances.  In the end the result will show who's been more consistently at the top.  If a way could be created to do it more how Mary is suggesting it would be great. But then how would we get the unique insights and perspectives that come from a critique such as this one.

Ardell, it's a good thought..I'm not how it should work but a final scoring from all the judges might not be a bad idea.

Kevin, the mistakes default to me, not the judges.

Mary M.  The performance criteria are not able to be judged because they are inherently manipulated by the project.  In addition different market's will have inherently different results.  The criteria is a subjective as figure skating or gymnastics, wine tasting (or american idol judging, as far as i know) only those competitions have had years to adjust their criteria so that perhaps in the end the judging is more consistent than it would be here.  But hey it's the first time we've put this together.

As Marc said...he didn't have a lot of notice, and yet still he devoted quite a bit of time to this. Marc went beyond what I'd expected.  Agree with him or not the blame does not fall on him.  If you don't like the contest as it's put together it points toward me. However I would hope that you look at the criticism and take it seriously.  Don't change everything for the judges, but definitely take their perspective into account.  I don't see how this contest has become a popularity contest.

Ines, Thanks for your comments.  I did want to say something on this,  While I very much appreciate the devotion that Marc put to his task.  I would take everything said by all the judges with a grain of salt.  If it were me, I don't know that I would have removed my fathers day post.  I would however put some thought into it.

I've loved the input from the judges but we can only look at them cumulatively and take to heart what we feel works for us.
2:53pm • #77
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Caleb

Thanks for caring.  I know this is a lot of work for you as well.

 

3:09pm • #78
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Nice note Caleb....

The real benefit here is for the apprentices and coaches to play, learn and expand.

Sounds like that is happening

3:29pm • #79
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Caleb, thanks for the thorough note. You have really knocked yourself out with this contest and I do appreciate it very much and I know that the other apprentices and mentors and onlookers/encouragers do too.  I think this has been a tremendous learning curve for all of us - mostly just learning how to blog better, but also (I think) how to run a blogging contest better for next time. The comments are often very helpful but I think they make us out of our minds as contestants (not as learners) when we are encouraged to do something and then reprimanded for it. If this happened to a puppy, you'd end up with a dog who bites (I'm not kidding). So if we're sometimes a little testy, I think that is why.... We DO realize you care and are working hard. I can't speak for everyone but I'm frustrated to think a whole contestant got missed (Teri last week), or that names got messed up (mine and Ines's) and so on. Anyway, I do think the judges deserve a lot of kudos, generally, for the efforts put forth.

I think "next time" you might want to draft some of us apprentices (maybe some mentors too) to be on that panel. We'll then see how difficult it is when the shoe is on the other foot :)

Thanks again,
Mary
8:45pm • #80
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2007
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Marc Davison was at our company meeting on Tuesday so I came to see this "judging" again. 

I just talked to him for a few minutes after his presentation, we talked about Kevin's blog and how Teri got left off....And that Julie's blog was his number one.  That I could not remember. 

I just ducked out of the Real Living  marketing presentation for a few minutes to meet him but Elaine Reese probably spent a good hour out in the lobby talking to Davison.  

2:36am • #81
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Maureen

Marc is a sharp man, as were all the judges--were all the judges men?

9:42am • #82
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No... Jessica Swesy... the last judges were a couple....my goodness there have to have been more female judges weren't there?

Maybe that was the problem? Too much testosterone?  I am just kidding that there was a problem with the judges. 

I was impressed by Marc Davison in the flesh.  I have not been a Marc Davison fan (not a big fan of his writing on Inman) and I mentioned that to a few people before the company meeting.  I was educated, inspired and entertained by his presentation. So even going in with a bad attitude I got something out of it... it must have been good.

Were your ears burning on Tuesday about 11:20 EST?  Actually I know Marc and Elaine kept talking about Project Blogger event, coaching, judging etc. after I ducked back into our meeting but Elaine and I talked later in the day.  I don't believe she had followed Project Blogger much and she reminded me of something in this thread. 

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