My owner is a home inspector in San Diego.This post was inspired by a currently Featured Post by Sally Cheeseman about plagiarism, and a comment I left in a blog this morning about making presumptions.

I'm always cautioning people to not fall into the trap of making presumptions about other people, and that applies to what, on the surface, might appear to be plagiarism.

For example, recently I gave our ActiveRain community full approval to use my "pesky home inspector" list. I did not place any limitations on how someone can use my list, nor do I require that they acknowledge me as the source. They are free to "plagiarize" me until their hearts are content. That, of course, presents a quandary for me.

Thief!What if someone finds my list on my site and the same, or a very similar list, on someone else's? Perhaps there will be a date to prove who had it first, but is the damage already done? Or maybe I decided to let everyone use it first, and then a year later I decided to use it, too. Should I not allow any of my work to be used freely for the common good? Hmmmmm.

Additionally, my "pesky home inspector" list has been around for about seven years, and I have given about 10,000 home inspectors over at the International Association of Certified Home Inspectors free reign to use it as their own, too.

I also have about a thousand documents that I've written over the years that I've posted in various places and those documents are also allowed to be used by anyone who happens upon them with no restrictions.

In fact, if you were to roam around the home inspector blogs here at ActiveRain, you'll find that the first posts by many of those inspectors sound familiar. Even the writing style is eerily familiar. That's because it's a document written by me that they have free reign to use with no restrictions on where they use it.

Liar!Much of what I do is like that. If you find it on my web site, in my ActiveRain blog, or anywhere else that I visit on the Internet, and you think it can help you or your Clients and Customers, you should feel free to use it.

If you'd like to tell me you're using it, great. If you'd like to acknowledge me as the source, that's great, too. If you'd just like to make off with it, that's also fine.

Could I charge for these documents? Sure. But I don't want to be Bill Gates. I only want to make a comfortable living and help as many people along the way as I possibly can, so free is often better than fee.

I'll return to my previous question, though. If I post something somewhere and give people the freedom to use it without acknowledgement, and they do, does it damage both of us if someone finds both of us? What does Google think?

Notwithstanding the answer, don't be too quick to make judgments about others and their business practices. Dig a little deeper and you just might find that all is well with the world. And if by chance it's not, I've found that a little courtesy note to the people involved usually results in action appropriate as necessary.

 

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15 Comments on It's easy to make presumptions. It's a little more difficult to take action.

OCT
22
195,388 Points 8 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog

Russel, that is very interesting. Yes, this could affect you, I think that an acknowledgement is a good thing. And, presumptions can get us into trouble. 

LOL, you have certainly caused me to think on this one!

6:09am • #1

Good points, I think letting people use your stuff is like open-source coding.  Some developers contribute their time for free and expect nothing for that time. 

6:26am • #2
141,808 Points 5 Featured Posts

Russell, I agree with you.  I live and work in a small town.  My company produces 2 area newsletters and websites...I write a lot of the content.  I also do a newsletter and facebook page for my church which is located in the same area.  If you read all of those publications and websites, you will probably see some of the same information because the same person is working on them...ME.  I don't know of anyone stealing or Plagiarizing my work, but would probably think of it as a compliment after thinking about it. 

Recently a local REALTOR friend posted a blog very similar to a blog I wrote.  My first reaction was, I can't believe she copied me.  Then I realized that she posted her blog within a minute of my posting, it just contained a lot of the same facts (which is something that happens a lot in a small town).  We don't have a whole lot to write about when it comes to a small community, so we all write about the same things.

As Andrea said in her comment, presumptions can get us in trouble. (I'm Sorry, Is that plagiarism?)

7:52am • #3
Outside Blog

Russel, I read the same post and agree with you. Not knowing the rules will not stop you from getting fined for breaking them. 

8:01am • #4
106,764 Points 1 Featured Post Localism Sponsor Outside Blog

Russel, as usual you point out good reasons to give credit where credit is due and you are so generous with your info because you just want to help people to find good homes with no unforeseen problems!! You Rock, You Roll, You Rule!!!

9:23am • #5
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Russell -

Thanks for the wisdom and sharing. Your generosity of spirit speaks volumes. In my personal opinion, anyone who puts their stuff online should EXPECT it's going to get reposted and "shared." Isn't that the whole point? Why else would you put it out there if you didn't want anyone to see it? I think we let our egos get in the way by wanting to claim this piece of writing or that photo as MINE.

I always aks my clients: What can't you do when you're holding on so tightly to something you already created? You can't create anything new!

You are a true gem!

Laura

10:23am • #6
7 Featured Posts Outside Blog

Russel,

Great thought provoking post. I will be conscious of my presumptions from now on. I think it's wonderful of you to share your lists, advice and expertise with people free of charge. You really are contributing to the greater good and helping people that need it. That being said, I think people who choose to use what you share should give you credit as the creator/author. It's wonderful to share information from others that you enjoy and think can be helpful, but it's always good to be honest and say where it came from. Thanks for sharing.

Your friend in the Cosmic Cow Pie.

12:07pm • #7
129,676 Points 3 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor

Hi Russel - I think it's really nice of you to want to share, but it might be a good idea if you had a little credit acknowledgment on what you share.  If people know they're welcome to it so long as the acknowledgment stays attached, it can only give your name even more google juice and others will not think you copied the other folks.  I think it would be a small price to ask for others to get the fruits of your hard work for free.

7:03pm • #8
237,495 Points 1 Featured Post Localism Sponsor Outside Blog

Russell I feel much like you when it comes to blogging home inspection news, tips and tricks. Basically we all have the same knowledge, what may be different is how we present this information. Its all about sharing and you do a great job of putting it together to a target audience.

7:59pm • #9
OCT
23

As usual good post and, by the way, I down loaded your list about 3 or 4 years ago.  Of course, you probably wouldn't recognize it any more due to the changes I made, but I have to give credit where credit is due.  It started out as your list.

Thanks.

12:39am • #10
Outside Blog

another thought provoking comment, the information age now led by the internet and twittering etc leaves information out there that can, at times be abused... I would like to think the majority of people will aknowledge anothers work...

I guess it comes down to the way a person was brought up and their morals and ethics...

This is "plagiarism" in the 21st century.

Thanx for sharing

7:18am • #11
202,439 Points 1 Featured Post Outside Blog

Hi Russel, thanks for the reminder, not to presume anything- will take a look at your "pesky home inspector" list and possibly use it for our homeowners. But only after giving acknowledgment to the generous and meticulous San Diego inspector who wrote it!

8:49am • #12

Good point Russell, sorry for 'stealing' your list. Kidding, I understand where you're coming from. I have encountered similar situations.

11:05pm • #13
OCT
27
569,386 Points 10 Featured Posts Outside Blog

Hey, Andrea - One of the reasons why I don't like to play policeman in my industry, or on ActiveRain, or anywhere else, is because it requires either making presumptions or doing lots of research to get at the truth, and that's just not me. If I'm going to do research, it will be on music, real estate, wildlife, or something else that I really enjoy.

Hey, Epcon - That's a very good way to look at it, open source coding.

Hey, Amy - Since I am human, I occasionally have thoughts that turn out to be wrong if I dig further. Television sound bites are the same way. They can make one think the wrong thing if one doesn't dig further for the circumstances and further information behind the sound bites.

Hey, Anthony - Not knowing the rules for driving a car might get you fined, but in almost everything else, one will get a "cease and desist" letter before getting fined.

Hey, Caren - It's a good thing I'm listing to some rock and roll music right now! "Reason to Believe" by Rod Stewart is playing.

Hey, Laura - Can I plagiarize this sentence: "What can't you do when you're holding on so tightly to something you already created? You can't create anything new!"? It's wonderful!

Hey, Carra - Many, many people using my stuff have cited me as the source, but, again, I don't require it.

Hey, Susan - Very valid points. Thanks.

Hey, Carl and Ceil - If someone were to use my stuff without modifying it for their own local area, it would not create problems for me but it might be a disservice to their Clients. I can't imagine someone in Pennsylvania using my stuff that says, "San Diego Gas & Electric recommends...." If I have to actually modify it for them, then I charge for it. But if they take my stuff and modify it, great!

Hey, Jack - I knew you had it, and you're not the only one. I even found some of my stuff on the web sites of the Dirty Dozen.

Hey, Chris - It probably does comes down to morals and ethics, and since I'm not the morals and ethics police, I'm just not going to go there.

Hey, Al and Peggy - Hope you can find something good from it.

Hey, Ian - Let's just say that you're borrowing it in perpetuity.

8:33pm • #14
NOV
05

Several years ago I made a presumption about a friend, the presumption ruining our friendship. Unfortunately, the presumption was not true, but by the time I found out it was too late.

10:58pm • #15

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