We have a client who just closed on his condo last week. Several weeks ago he determined this property would fit his needs, and he asked us to represent him during the negotiation process. One of his main goals was to purchase the condo at a very good price.

We started by researching the condo market in the neighborhood and within the condo development itself. Our review of recent MLS transactions showed this condo was already competitively priced.

Next, we looked at the condo's listing and sales history. This condo had been on the market for 22 months. During that time it had undergone 3 price reductions, with the most recent reduction dropping the price $57,000 below the orginal list.

Then we researched the mortgage and checked for other liens on the property. We found there was still plenty of equity left in the condo even though it would end up selling for well below the seller's original purchase price.

Last, we looked for evidence of delinquent property taxes and evidence of foreclosure. We didn't find any issues on either front.  

Now we were ready to draft the offer to purchase. We drafted the offer, and along with that we submitted a cover letter. The cover letter outlined the justification for the price. We included recent sales data from the condo development, and we cited data from the MLS which showed a very strong trend toward lower condo prices. We stated in the letter that the offer price was not only based on recent sales data, but the overall direction of the market. 

In our letter we acknowledged the offer price was well below what the seller was hoping to receive, but we politely stated the price was non-negotiable. We thanked the sellers in advance for their consideration, and we awaited their response.

Two days later the sellers signed the offer. The buyer's inspection went well and we proceeded smoothly to closing. As it turned out the sellers did not like our tactics and decided they did not want to sit with us at the closing table. They completed their closing paperwork several days prior to the buyers.

I sympathize with the sellers and understand why they were unhappy with the results of their sale. It was a bitter pill to swallow.  But our job was to advance our client's goals and protect his best interests. And as it turned out, our strategy worked. It's also worth mentioning that although the buyer hired us to represent him for his purchase, it was the sellers who paid our commission.

For more information on buyer representation and how the buyer agency agreement works, you can check out this link on DaneCountyMarket.com .

Dan Miller, Realtor, Certified Distressed Property Expert, Keller Williams Realty and DaneCountyMarket.com     

 

38 Comments on Looking for a good deal? Work with a good buyer agent.

OCT
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You wrote:

I sympathize with the sellers and understand why they were unhappy with the results of their sale. It was a bitter pill to swallow. 

Indeed.  My last three resales were homes sold by very angry sellers.  They appeared to blame the buyers for the state of the housing market.  Did the buyers pay less than list.  Of course, significantly less.  However, the comps wouldn't support the list price and I'm sure the listing agents knew that.

One was a short sale and some anger is to be expected.  The other two were voluntary sales with relocating sellers.  Not the buyer's fault that the value had fallen 10-15% since first listed.

It isn't our job as buyer's agents to protect the seller's net.  It's our job as buyer's agents to maximize the buyer's oppotunity. 

That's what we do.  I too had one sale with the seller and buyer signing separately, AT MY REQUEST because I didn't see the need for my buyers to be exposed to the seller's anger.

 

6:41am • #1
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Dan:

This is a great example of why people should work with buyer brokers (good ones). It illustrates the point beautifully. Great job.

 

 

6:41am • #2
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Lenn raises a very good point. When finally, a buyer comes along and rescues the vendor, this is suddenly the one person that the vendor is mad at.

You'd think they should be mad at the whole world with the exception of the buyer.

6:48am • #3
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Dan,

Congratulations on the feature!  Buyers brokers keep things on an even keel, as Lenn's comment illustrates.

Mike in Tucson

6:50am • #4
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Dan, this is the best I've read so far! It's funny, sellers get mad, but THEY accepted the offer. You didn't put a gun to their heads. They could have walked away but maybe a financial situation prevented from that. Who knows. That is not our problem. You did your job and did it very, very well I might add :)

6:52am • #5

Excellent job on thorough representation of the buyer.  Congratulations on a job well done.  As buyer agents, we need to remember that is our number one responsibility.

6:53am • #6
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Just look at those things you did. Who could do that on their own?

Buyers need to know that this sort of service is available and they do not pay out of pocket for it in 99.9% of the cases. Thanks for helping educate the public.

6:56am • #7
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Dan...great information. The buyers have no clue what we do for them. We need more post like this to constantly let them know.

7:02am • #8
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More people need to understand how important it is to hire a buyers agent. Do any of us think the listing agent would have done any of this?

7:28am • #9
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This is a great example for people who think they will get a better deal by going to the listing agent because they get both sides (I have heard that so often, it makes me crazy).  You said it better with this one example than I have said in all my explanations! Thanks.

7:38am • #10
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Hi Dan -- Excellent post, and it shows that the old adage: measure twice and cut once, appropriately applies to real estate.

7:54am • #11

What a wonderful explanation of what we do for our buyer clients! I myself do every step you mentioned before deciding on an offer with a client for a property as I would expect all agents to do. Quite a few customers don't actually realize the importance of a Buyers agent. The sellers agent SHOULD do the same thing and in handeling quite a few dual agency sales in my time, its a fine line and each side must and can be represented equally, very carefully I might add. Darlene Olivo ABR-Buyers' Choice Realty North Myrtle Beach

7:58am • #12

"As it turned out the sellers did not like our tactics and decided they did not want to sit with us at the closing table. They completed their closing paperwork several days prior to the buyers."

That really is too bad.  It is amazing how emotional a deal can get.  Years ago, when my husband and I bought our first house the seller chose not to sit out.  It was a serious fixer-upper at the tail end of the seller's townhouse project.  It was a case of the seller/developper mismanaging his project and he had to get out.

Our gain was his loss, but unfortunately, he sat at the closing table across from us making snide comments all along (such as "I never agreed to this price.".  The closer actually called a time-out and the sale nearly didn't go through!  Thank goodness the Seller's Agent took him aside and gagged him, while our agent supported us throughout.

8:52am • #13
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Just the facts mam. Thanks for sharing this successful story with us. You eliminated the emotions out of the transaction and closed the deal for the buyer. Outstanding job! Hire a Realtor

9:01am • #14
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Hi Dan ~ A really well written post that explains perfectly the advantages of working with a buyer agent.

As you point out, it's your thorough preparation before writing the offer that ultimately leads to the successful outcome. Buyers are often unaware of just how much goes on behind the scenes. Hopefully lots of them read this and realize that nothing beats working with a (good) buyer agent.

Denise

10:41am • #15
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Job well done. You did what any good buyer agent should do but probably many don't!

11:38am • #16
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Dan, what a wonderful blog.  You stated it so well.  One of the sad things I'm seeing in my market is some seller's agents acting adversarial as well.  We should all be able to represent our clients and their best interest in a gracious, professional manner. 

Never before in my 14 years in this business have I seen buyers and sellers acting as if the other party to the transaction created this economic shift and being angry and contentious.  I try hard to be the voice of reason and keep things on a friendly basis but unfortunately that's not always possible.

PS:  I have a newphew-in-law with your same name.  He and my neice live in Nashville, Tennessee but he's originally form Wisconsin.  I'll be watching you.

12:01pm • #17
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Dan:  You have to wonder how happy the sellers would have been if the listing agent brought the buyer ... when I represent a buyer, my job is to focus on my client, the buyer ... and I don't have much consideration or passion for the seller ... the seller can refuse any offer.

12:54pm • #18

Excellent post!!! Shows how being represented helps buyers to achieve their ultimate goal!

1:02pm • #19
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Great job on representing your clients. If everyone put this kind of effort into their work things would sure go alot smoother.

1:35pm • #20

Solid Representation!!  The public should look into it!!  Good Stuff!!

1:53pm • #21
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In Oklahoma when I work with a seller I have the Listing Realtor hat, on and when i work with the buyer I work with a differnet hat. In both cases I have a signed contract that binds us together. Having worked both sides, I don't necessarily sympathize and let that cloud my judgment, I just understand the transaction well and I strive to be fair and honest with both parties. They key for me is that there should be no losers. If one of the parties feel that way then that is for them to deal with.

1:56pm • #22
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It's really tough on the sellers when they take a low offer.  It is their choice, but at the same time they want to have someone to blame.  I think your "tactic" could not have been more up front and honest.  Great post and well done.

3:30pm • #24
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The last three steps you took to research and explore...did you do a Title Exam and what else? The History and CMA I got...the others?

3:30pm • #25
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Dan - This is an excellent example of all the work we do for buyer's and why they need a buyer's agent.

3:56pm • #26
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Lenn's response says it all.

I showed a property that is listed at $249,000 and was just reduced after 60 days at $279,000.

The highest comparable sale in the neighborhood sold this month for $165,000.

Houses all around this very nice home sold for $100-140,000 this year.

I cannot at all justify a buyer paying $249,000. I even asked an appraiser to help me comp it out, and we both came up with a value of about $190,000 to be realistic.

It is a nice home, but not THAT nice. It is dated, needs new carpet/paint in many rooms, and no upgrades whatsoever.

Today we offered $190,000 - 6% seller assist. I handed the other agent my comps and reasoning for the price, as I don't believe it would ever appraise close to list.

Sellers are so angry, they refuse to counteroffer. What a shame.

4:06pm • #27
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I haven't experienced this although I can understand a seller being disappointed.  The market decides the price.  As markets shift one side or the other will see it move against their wishes.  That's life.  These sellers sold at that price because that was the market at the time.  I can empathize but that is how far it should go.

4:18pm • #28

Thanks for a great explanation of what we buyer's agents do for our buyers!

4:33pm • #29
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good post and one that I will be reblogging ;-)

4:48pm • #30
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I too feel bad for the sellers but you really did your homework and in the end probably did them a favor.

4:59pm • #31
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Dan - First,  I endorse buyer's agents, as I have a team of them.  Second, presenting a listing agent with a potentially contrary market analysis can be risky.  It can bring out an "attitude" in the listing agent that might sour the deal.  On the other hand, if the listing agent is having a hard time with the seller it might help.....

5:51pm • #32
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Dan, you illustrated perfectly why someone needs to work with a buyer's agent. If that buyer had gone directly to the listing agent, they most likely would have paid much more for the property, because the listing agent's duty is TO THE SELLER.

Congratulations on your successful closing!

6:09pm • #34

Hi Dan. I have had some bad experiences with tempers getting out of control. It's refreshing to read that you resolved it.   ~ Lana

6:12pm • #35
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Great post on pointing out what a good buyers agent can accomplish for their clients! I too agree on providing my buyers with all of the facts in order to make a well thought out offer.  

It is too bad your seller was not happy about the offer, it makes it difficult when the seller is not properly informed about market conditions.

6:26pm • #36
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I am a buyers agent for a large team and we really do go the extra mile. We are required to have 30 hours a year on various legal and advocacy education a year.

8:41pm • #37
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29
Outside Blog

This certainly gives me something to think about. Thank you.

1:52am • #38
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"The last three steps you took to research and explore...did you do a Title Exam and what else? The History and CMA I got...the others?"

Hi Cheryl, we didn't do a title search. We used some local/regional web sites to do our research. The links in the article explain the sources and the steps. Tapestry Record Search is a tool that we use to research mortgages, deeds, tax liens, and other documents. The web site is below and includes properties from a number of counties in Midwestern states. Perhaps there is a similar site in your area?

https://tapestry.fidlar.com/Tapestry2/

Enjoyed reading everyone's comments and perspectives. Have a great day!

Dan

 

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