Last week Curbed LA  pondered that real estate may be on the way to boring.    They wondered  if our local real estate markets have lost the frenzy we have all come to associate with buying and selling real estate in Southern California.

However if the 24 folks who made offers on 1708 Magnolia in East Manhattan Beach  last week are any indication... we have not reached boring.   The home was listed for $699,000 and drew big crowds.  The accepted offer was about $825,000 for a 3 bedroom+ den,  1 bath home with 1236 sq ft home on a 4870 sq ft lot that needed upgrading.  A few days later  1509 Manzanita  a 3 bedroom 1 bath 1098 sq ft home also needing updates on a 5247 sq ft lot  in Liberty Village  saw a quick sale.  Originally listed for $749,000 this one appears to have accepted an offer at $799,000.

Of course the real excitement will occur when these homes are appraised. That is the cliff hanger as the loans on both these homes fall under conventional guidelines and therefore will be subject to the appraisal rules under Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac guidelines.


Mid level priced homes  also seem to be faring well.  In the Trees a  newer home at 648 26th Street  on an over-sized lot drew over 300 people at the  Saturday and Sunday Open Houses.  The home was built in 2004 and is on a 5120 sq ft lot.  It  is listed at $1,799,000.    Rumor has it that they have received offers but so far no sale has been reported.


While sellers in the upscale price ranges continue to search for buyers, sellers in the entry to mid level price ranges seem to be having better luck providing they are priced right.  Overpricing is still the kiss of death no matter where your property falls on the price scale.   I can think of  a number of   homes that have been on the market forever.  They were priced too high and have been rejected by buyers.  Now they are "old" inventory and will likely have to really drop their price to attract interest.  It's never a good idea to chase the market down  at any price level.

An  article in the Daily Breeze  points out that South Bay median home prices were up overall even as prices were lower then at this time last year.  While prices in the South Bay were up 7.4%, the Beach Cities saw prices drop 25.6% from last year.  Manhattan Beach was down 12.9%, Hermosa saw declines of 25.8% and Redondo was off 7.2% from September 2008.  However even though prices were off from last year by a fairly significant amount,  Manhattan Beach had the highest median home price in the California with a median of $1,502,000. 

Meanwhile the financial markets are very concerned about what's happening in the commercial real estate sector.   For those of us who remember the S & L debacle of the '80's this could be an issue that will have consequences for the residential market.   We just saw what happened when credit dried up from 2007-2008 and the effect that had on the  residential housing market. 


Personally,  I think a little boring might be nice....

 
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17 Comments on Manhattan Beach-Beach Cities Real Estate: Are we headed to boring?

OCT
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If boring translates to stability I'm all for it!

10:15pm • #1
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Hey Kaye,

Those numbers are astounding. 300 people at the week-end open house, especially in that price range, yikes!

We too have seen many mulitiple offers on a large number of the properties listed, and yes we've had quite a few sales ourselves at over asking. Our inventory is at the lowest point for the year.

10:45pm • #2
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Kaye - sounds like some pretty boring times in Manhattan Beach...300 people at  the open houses, multiple offers on non-REO homes? I like it. Like Lynda reports, our inventories are down, too. Buyers keep asking about the wave of homes we keep hearing about.

Jeff

10:47pm • #3
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Hi have to ditto Jeff's remarks. My investor buyers what to know if on November 1st will we have a bazillion properties to write up. I suggested that it would be more like Feb by the time the banks foreclose and get the homes out to real estate agents to list them. I doubt Kaye that you will see much of that there . It does sound like things have really begun to move and move briskly. But you raise the correct issue and that is what the appraisals will come in at. At that price range, I would expect that people might want to bring money to the table and then set the new prices on those closings. So nice to see you on again. I miss seeing you. Coming to NAR?

11:30pm • #4
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Norma- Stability.. what a lovely word.

 

Lynda- I know it was amazing... not my listing but agents are in my office.  Needless to say they were overwhelmed. How was Australia?

 

Jeff-Pretty interesting.. but of course not the whole story.  There4 are still a number of homes that have been on the market for many many months

 

William-It will be awhile until we see what the fallout from option arms and Alt-A loans will be... If rates stay low all may be well for this round but the ones resetting in another year may be in big trouble. 

No matter how much money folks have they don't want to pay more then the appraised value in a market as iffy as this one  still apppears.

1:48am • #5
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That cliff hanger known as the appraisal is, indeed, the thing that takes the boredom out of a vigorous market. 

Markets that have a lot of cash buyers who, for some reason, seem to be from other countries, are not usually in your price range.  Those Florida homes are moving fast to cash buyers. 

You're right, a little boring would be welcomed in your market.

5:17am • #6
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Here in Northern Virginia the market appears to be stabilizing even though we are not seeing huge price increases  Karen

6:42am • #7
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Thank you for sharing. Wonderful post. I appreciate it.

9:06am • #8
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I guess my market is boring. I just sold a 1198SF 3 bed, 1 bath, 2 car attached garage home on 8960SF. The trouble is it needs fixing up so with fix up that ballooned the price to $60,000. I read your post and had sticker shock even in 2009. Of course we have no beach.

 

9:17am • #9
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Lenn- It's always the small stuff... like appraisal that create the problems.   You are right about inveators with cash who add a bit of spice to markets that are emerging from foreclosure hell.  The inland empire is seeing a nunber of these buyers and they basically create new price levels as banks scramble to take the money and run.

 

Karen- I suspect that price increases will be a long time coming.  For now flat is good!

 

Aaron- Glad you found the post of interest

 

Joe-Location-location-location... always the magic ingredient. We have lost over 25% in value since last year but prices will continue to remain higher then inmost parts of the state or country.  Southern California Beach Cities have always been pricey.

9:59am • #10

The roller coaster ride can be fun, and then it is so nice to get off on the ground.  Wishing you more stability.  All the best... R & A

11:37am • #11
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Kaye - Having lived in the South Bay for many years in the eighties, I understand the prices you are referencing. Now living in Southern Oregon, your Beach Cities entry level is our high end, and there aren't a lot of those. :-)  It is good news to hear the low-mid ranges are moving in your market. Same goes in ours, although those are all under $300,000.

1:08pm • #12
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This sounds anything but boring!  People think that they are getting a real deal on the foreclosures (and they may be, I don't know - I'm in Tennessee) - wondering how the other part of your market is doing?

2:04pm • #13
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On a personal note, I lived in a 400 sq foot beach house in Manhattan Beach in the mid '80's...steps to the beach. I don't think I was ever happier. Love that town and I was never bored there!

6:04pm • #14
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Kaye, I read that story on boring as well, and I think for any market boring is a static point. Wow, 24 offers. You live on a different planet than our area with it ALMOST being back to a balanced market here.

7:28pm • #15

Kaye- sounds like some fun excitement in Manhattan Beach!  Please, keep us updated as the appraisals come in.  These stories could get interesting!

7:54pm • #16
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Ron & Alexandra- Let's hear it for some stability...

 

Karen-We are an anomaly that's for sure.. I know a bunch of people who have moved from the South Bay to your area as they can buy so much more.

 

Emily- Most of our sales are still standard owner sales. We have yet to see a lot of foreclosurs in our area but with the resets this month and more next year on ARMS we just might see more activity. 

 

Dave- It's still a great place to live.

 

Gary- We don't see 24 offers very often but at that price and with folks wanting to get into the community the home drew a lot of interest.  The one that amazed me was in the trees with so many people coming through the open house.  sure souldn't have seen that a year ago.

 

JB- Ah yes the old appraisal issue... I'll do a follow up as soon as I know what happens. 

9:26pm • #17

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