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43 Comments on Realtor buyer rebates - tax deductible?
If your client spends a sizeable amount on a home, in my market over $500k, they deserve a nice closing gift.
Deductible or not, it's warranted.
As a corporation, ordinary business expenses are treated as such and thus deductible against income. The trick is to figure out how the "gift" becomes an ordinary business expense. That requires a tax professionals advice.
I know of the $50 limit also, but have been able to use these types of expenses under ordinary business expenses since the business provides the expenses, not the individual. Also everyone receives the same amount regardless of the loan size. This creates the ordinary part of the equation.
I have been through an audit before and was successful, although nothing arose about this topic.
One thing to point out, the link to the exclusion is a reference to IRS Publication 463. The people this refers to are:
employee or
a sole proprietor
who has business-related travel, entertainment, gift, or transportation expenses.
It does not pertain to corporations. Just wanted to point that out.
Hi Robert, I would disagree with your last comment. Go to this IRS link for corporations and follow the links for gifts. You will end up at the previously referenced link: http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/article/0,,id=98820,00.html
Great topic! It's something that we need to be aware of, but I must advise that we contact our tax professionals on the issue. No offense, but I'd no sooner take tax advice from a Realtor than let an accountant sell me a house.
I have a realtor friend that will send a $50 gift certificate for every client when he closes. But he also has season tickets to the Blue Jackets and routinely gets OSU tickets -- and he'll just give tickets away as a birthday or "just because" gift later in the year.
I ran into a Real estate attorney this morning at the local coffee shop and we were just chatting about the industry and I brought up this topic to him.
Now remember he's an attorney and licensed real estate agent - not a CPA. His response was don't call it a "closing gift", and don't tie the gift to the closing of property. Rather, give it as a "gift" - for a birthday, Columbus Day, whatever you want.
Personally, I think he's toeing a line.
I see several others on the same page here. Everyone has an opinion, but when dealing with the IRS the best opinion to have on your side of the room is a CPA....unless all the various friends who have opinions are willing to go to court with you and help pay any penalties, etc.
We are the experts in Real Estate, and tend to discourage uninformed intrusions from well meaning friends and family members into negotiations with our clients. I suggest the same perspective is appropriate here - if it's a tax/accounting question - take advice from your CPA.
Stephen, thanks for the response. I reviewed it and I see the law for myself and those that have the corporation pay the gift can deduct it fully. Here is why...
Even though as a corporation, we are to look at Publication 463, it does not apply and states that clearly as shown below (right out of the publication):
Who should use this publication. You should use this publication if you are an employee or a sole proprietor who has business-related travel, entertainment, gift, or transportation expenses.
Who does not need to use this publication. Partnerships, corporations, trusts, and employers who reimburse their employees for business expenses should refer to their tax form instructions and chapter 13 of Publication 535, Business Expenses, for information on deducting travel, meals, entertainment, and transportation expenses.
(note that gifts are not listed in the bottom paragraph as they are not addressed directly in Publication 535)
When referencing Publication 535, gifts are not listed or addressed in this publication, so we look at the general deductibility and this is what the publication says:
What can I deduct?
To be deductible, a business expense must be both ordinary and necessary. An ordinary expense is one that is common and accepted by your industry. A necessary expense is one that is helpful and appropriate for your trade or business. An expense does not have to be indispensible to be considered necessary.
Based on these findings, I would say that corporations that provide gifts for closings/transactions is able to deduct the full amount as it is both ordinary and necessary in our industry per IRS definition.
I may be wrong, but this is straight from the publications (links) you listed. Remember, I am talking about if the corporation pays for the expense, not the individual realtor or LO. If the employee pays for it, it falls back under the $25 per person limitation found in pub. 463.
I hope this helps...
Stephen,
Please let me know what he says. I may have to change the way I record stuff.
It's my understanding that a rebate of commission used to pay settlement charges must be on the HUD-1. If a financial payment is made directly to your client after closing, then this is really deemed a "gift" and doesn't need to be on the HUD-1. Many states allow gifts of any magnitude providing they are given directly to a principle.
Here is a link that has written on this issue.
http://www.dllr.state.md.us/license/real_est/renews.htm
The Answer: Yes. Section 10-15(c) of the Act authorizes the offer or payment of compensation ("prizes, merchandise, services, rebates, discounts or other consideration") to an unlicensed person who is a party to a contract or lease. Of course, such compensation is not required. The payment of such compensation should be pursuant to the negotiations on the transactions. The payment of such compensation is not limited to payment by a licensee to the licensee's client - in other words, a seller's agent may pay compensation to an unlicensed buyer.
May a licensee offer compensation to solicit clients?
The Answer: Yes. Section 10-15(d) of the Act authorizes the offer or payment of compensation ("cash, gifts, prizes, awards, coupons, merchandise, rebates or chances to win a game of chance") to a consumer as an inducement to that consumer to use the services of a licensee, even if the consumer and licensee ultimately do not enter into a client relationship. Any advertisement under this Section must also comply with all requirements regarding real estate advertisements. Also, care should be taken not to offer compensation to unlicensed persons for referrals of clients - this is prohibited.
All you realtors are I D I O T S ! Realtor rebate is here to stay and gaining popularity, just google: REALTOR REBATE to see 300,000 results.
With FHA lowering seller concessions, more buyers and lenders are going to look to the realtor to share some of that ABSURD 3% to 6% unearned BS commission to make the deal work!