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Canyon Lake to local Businesses - Tax You!

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Real Estate Agent with 1st Action Real Estate

Irony abounds. On the same day Los Angeles appointed a blue ribbon panel to study ways to reduce taxes and encourage business, the Canyon Lake City Council decided it was time to raise taxes, errr, FEES and singled out 'Professional Employees and Professional Licensees' for an additional tax, errr, FEE. (They went to great pains to point out in their ordinance that this is a FEE and shall not  be construed as a TAX.) Whatever - the net result is if you're a professional licensee it'll now cost you more for the privilege of doing business in Canyon Lake.

Exactly why they singled out 'Professional Licensees' to hit up for more taxes, sorry - FEES, is anybodies guess. Maybe the city leaders just figured that's where the money's at since it apparently isn't in the city coffers and they need more. So they determined that in addition to the customary 'Business License Tax' that owners of every business pay every year, they were going to break that down even further to "protect the public health, safety and welfare as well as provide for efficient administration of the program". That's clever - invent an unnecessary program and then tax people to run it. These people may have bright futures in state politics.

Ryan Smith, IVAR GAD, board Counsel John Giardinelli and I have been working with the City to address the madness of this ordinance since July. We have held numerous meetings with city staff and counsel and, as of a month ago, had actually reached what we felt was an equitable compromise. Unfortunately the CL Mayor visited her hairdresser a few days before the most recent council meeting and the current Ordinance 121 revision was the result of that high level conference. (No, I am not lying).

From here on out, any 'Professional Associate or licensee' including, but not limited to, realtors, attorneys,beauticians, barbers, manicurists, dentists, dental hygienists, veterinarians, doctors, podiatrists and chiropractors get to pay extra to operate in Canyon Lake. It applies to 'businesses which have a fixed location within the city as well as those which do not'. 

So if you're a Broker, attorney, doctor, etc. with an office in Canyon Lake, you will owe this extra fee for every licensee under you. If you are a Realtor from elsewhere and you list a property in Canyon Lake, they will send you a bill. They are unclear on whether they can bill your Broker for every agent in your office whether or not they do business in Canyon Lake but for sure you'll get a bill because of your sign. If you represent a buyer on a property in CL, they have no way of figuring that out so you can either just pony up the tax, errrr FEE because you are a fool, or you get a free pass. 

I'm sure all the agents from San Diego and Los Angeles (& Murrieta and Riverside) listing bank-owned homes in Canyon Lake will just be falling over themselves to send in that extra payment.Their code enforcement person is going to have a full time job tracking down these signs, sending bills, stopping by offices to count noses and ensure compliance etc. 

What? You say they don't have and can't afford to devote a full time code enforcement officer to this effort? Jeez, maybe it's gonna be a challenge collecting those payments from Ventura and the OC then. If they're lucky a few businesses in Canyon Lake might comply - everybody else will just give this program the respect it so richly deserves - doo-dah. 

The City claims this is necessary for 'disaster preparedness and in the event of an emergency'. So by their logic, if your building is on fire, instead of calling the owner of record they could just call some random Realtor or hairdresser. If your business is being burgled, don't call the manager, just call somebody that does nails in the back stall or a random podiatrist. Yeah, that makes sense. 

In summary, under Ordinance 121, the City of Canyon Lake has singled out 'licensed professionals' working in or thinking about working in the City for an additional tax, errr, FEE. They claim they need to do this for 'disaster preparedness and emergency contact', and they're counting, in large degree, on voluntary compliance because they don't have the manpower necessary to enforce it. They have invented an unnecessary program and want to charge you an additional fee to implement it

At this point you may be wondering what the additional tax, errrr FEE is? $20. That's right, $20. One lonely Andrew Jackson. As a representative from their Chamber asked, why is the City willing to piss off some 300+ business' still hanging on in Canyon Lake over $20? If they're lucky, they might generate a few grand. Probably not. He told them straight out "You aren't listening!". He was right. 

If there's any good news to be gleaned from this ludicrosity, they started out demanding $90 a head, they ended up at $20. Of course since the amount of annual increase is unspecified, they could decide to jack it to $90 next year now that it's in place. 

Anyway, if you're thinking about dong business in Canyon Lake, you might want to check out the City's record on business friendly ordinances before you jump. Menifee, Lake Elsinore & Wildomar are right next door and they would love to have your business. And it won't cost you an extra $20 a head to do it. 

You can read the full text of this ordinance if they every figure out how to post it to their website. 

Comments(8)

Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

Is there no end to this insanity?  $20 doesn't sound like much, but if they assess it on every licensee in a real estate office, that broker will be paying the fee, errr, tax for a lot of folks who are propably not selling much if any real estate.

The government is complete and totally out of control.

Nov 07, 2009 07:46 AM
James Lyon
Vista Pacific Realty - Sacramento, CA

I agree, where does it end. When times are tight most people pull back on spending and look for ways to cut costs. Government entities seem to think it is ok to raise fee's taxes etc. The UC school systems is raising tuition right now as well, unbelievable.

Nov 07, 2009 08:24 AM
Aaron Vaughn 830-358-0455
Conifer Builders LLC - Canyon Lake, TX

This blog seems to localized for me to comment, yet I am. I don't know why, but this really makes me angry. Hope nobody here gets that idea.

Nov 07, 2009 11:07 AM
Chris Olsen
Olsen Ziegler Realty - Cleveland, OH
Broker Owner Cleveland Ohio Real Estate

Hi Gene -- You should send this/your post to your local newspapers, other local bloggers, tweet it, LA Times, etc., to drum up press and opposition for this madness.

Nov 07, 2009 03:37 PM
Missy Caulk
Missy Caulk TEAM - Ann Arbor, MI
Savvy Realtor - Ann Arbor Real Estate

Gene, out STATE has tried to do this for years. Our Michigan Association of Realtors has stayed vigilant for us everytime it raises it's ugly head. Now we have a large lobbiest group, but other service industries like plumbers, hair stylists don't. So they always get added in. Then it gets over turned.

Fight and fight hard....get other local service providers included. Contact your CA Association of Realtors

Nov 07, 2009 11:35 PM
Richard Lecinski
Long Realty Company - Oro Valley, AZ

Whne will governments learn high taxes aren't good for businesses and they will lose in the long run?

Nov 08, 2009 12:10 AM
Linda Christopher
Riverside, CA
Property Manager & Real Estate Sales

It seems the whole country is out of control and fewer and fewer things are as they should be.

I hope Canyon Lake is still a nice place to live because I just recommended it to my clients on Friday. They wont be working there but they are looking for the life style and very little stress. I hope the home owners association is under control.

I would think it would make a lot more sense to all cities to be very employer friendly.

Nov 08, 2009 01:55 AM
Gene Wunderlich
1st Action Real Estate - Murrieta, CA
Realtor & Legislative Liaison

Canyon Lake is a nice place to live - but the HOA, the City and their Chamber often seem to work at cross-purposes. If they just want to live in a nice gated community with a lake in it, there aren't many options in this area and Canyon Lake is in a nice setting, rolling hills, etc.

Amazingly the only people that showed up for this meeting to speak in opposition was another GAD, our association attorney a representative from their Chasmber of Commerce and myself. If none of the other affected businesses even bother to show up, it's hard to get axcited about going to battle for them. If they're happy paying an extra tax, errr, FEE, then who am I to stop them.

Nov 08, 2009 05:33 AM